that is a very good point now that i think about it..whats goth to some isn't goth to others...i guess what i dont want is girls that if you took their makeup off, their tattoos away and styled their hair normally they'd fit perfectly in a gap ad...damn i guess i want ugly girls then...oh well ugly girls can still hi five and fuck better than most of the model types anyway...like take a girl like jynx..i think she is hotter than any of the it "alt" girls they got now..or topanga from boy meets world...she should definatly do a porn