Willie- if Michael is talking about name recognition, then there are people who know Mary Carey's name who don't know porn. They laugh at her, but Paris followed the same paradigm. Of course Paris has publcists like Dan Klores and Eliot Mintz, which helps alot.

When it comes to cross over potential, I stick by my assesment that Ava and Mia have some potential based on their being porn star siblings. I could see them on a VH1 show or something of that Ilk. Sadly, I don't think they will get their act together before that window of opportunity closes.