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I believe you're forgetting someone, Owen. *whistles and rolls eyes*


**Coughs** I've been around just as long as Zenman and jrv, actually just a tad longer.



Yep, but you still suck. You need a new avatar Chico- like the old Camel cigarette cartoon: "Four Years and still sucking".

You do get all the credit for elevating "fist-discipline" to an accepted business practice, though.