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#237042 - 04/17/07 11:05 AM
why performers escort part 1
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: New York
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Here's a case study on why performers escort. Pornstarperformance.com has a glowing review of Ava Devine who recently lost 30 pounds (hmm) and was a trouper through a six hour shoot.
If I'm getting any of this wrong feel free to correct me. But Avas rate is probally in the range of 750 a scene. Take out her agents cut and taxes and assume two hours for prep and travel and Ava pockets a cool 68 dollars an hour. Street walkers do better.
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#237043 - 04/17/07 11:14 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 02/18/07
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Here's a case study on why performers escort. Pornstarperformance.com has a glowing review of Ava Devine who recently lost 30 pounds (hmm) and was a trouper through a six hour shoot.
If I'm getting any of this wrong feel free to correct me. But Avas rate is probally in the range of 750 a scene. Take out her agents cut and taxes and assume two hours for prep and travel and Ava pockets a cool 68 dollars an hour. Street walkers do better.
Actually Ava's anal rate is $1200 and b/g rate is $1000
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#237045 - 04/17/07 01:23 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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If I'm getting any of this wrong feel free to correct me. But Avas rate is probally in the range of 750 a scene. Take out her agents cut and taxes and assume two hours for prep and travel and Ava pockets a cool 68 dollars an hour.
That's good comedy right there... 
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#237046 - 04/17/07 03:58 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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crissakes, i've been pointing this out (more or less) for 2 years...Escorting is the way for chicks to make Maximum Bucks, the problem is it requires a wee bit of chutzpah, intestinal fortitude (which can be subsitituted with a healthy does of XANAX) and a little bit of marketing intelligence and savvy....which probably explains, and illustrates, why the laziest and dumbest of the whores start out, or actuallu STAY, with PORN. Now if a chick is using her PORN as a marketing platform, then that is another story, and will be obvious if that is her modus operandi.
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#237049 - 04/17/07 07:00 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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One way for an escort to protect herself is to book only at reputable hotels. Post 9-11 I challenge you to book a room at the W without a credit card. And smile for all the security cameras. If you want to get away with a homocide, a hotel is the last place to do it.
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#237050 - 04/17/07 07:19 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Porn Jesus
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i tried making that point about every decent hotel in america being an extremely challenging place to kill someone these days.
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#237054 - 04/18/07 06:49 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/14/07
Posts: 63
Loc: Hollywood
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Moxie, don't you think that for the right price, the escort will allow the client to not use a condom? And what if the escort gets drunk/high with a client and he doesn't use one. How do you know they only use condoms, because they said so?
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#237055 - 04/18/07 07:17 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 02/18/07
Posts: 376
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These whores aren't smart enough to calculate how much they make per hour. All they know is at the end of 16 hour day shooting porn they walk away with $1000. They think its a lot of money because it's a grand.
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#237056 - 04/18/07 07:35 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: New York
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If you think whores don't know economics, I take it you have never been to a strip club.
As for bare back full service (BBFS)I can only tell you from the girls I've met, that they are very safety concious. Keep in mind the clients are high rollers and have their own safety concerns as well. I wouldn't doubt BBFS could happen with a long term regular client though.
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#237057 - 04/18/07 10:16 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 02/18/07
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If you think whores don't know economics, I take it you have never been to a strip club.
As for bare back full service (BBFS)I can only tell you from the girls I've met, that they are very safety concious. Keep in mind the clients are high rollers and have their own safety concerns as well. I wouldn't doubt BBFS could happen with a long term regular client though.
Most will do it if you have an AIM test. Just ask <----> on this board. He owns some <----> production company which is a front for him to write off his expenses on hookers.
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#237059 - 04/18/07 10:58 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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The smart ones work independently and keep all the cash.
F.H. You do realize you accused someone, by full name, of tax fraud on a public forum.
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#237061 - 04/18/07 01:00 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I'd say that around 90% of the industry girls I know who escort on the side enjoy it less than performing in films, despite the financial advantages.
A lot of the girls are attention whores and need a roomful of people praising or watching them. Then there are the clients. Some of the stories I've been told would curl your toes. Yes, big money changes hands, but most of these chicks would rather rim De'Bella in their parents' lounge than revisit the experiences.
Hooking is good money, but in porn you get to hang out with your friends, have a giggle and not have to 'act nice' to anyone in particular.
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#237062 - 04/18/07 05:31 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 04/03/07
Posts: 786
Loc: on the dark side of the moon
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How many of the girls who escort get busted at one point or another? As far as I know, a nice hotel can certainly be a safe environment for business, but once every so often somebody gets busted. Does it matter to anyone that hooking is illegal? Or is it just like getting a parking ticket? Just curious.
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#237063 - 04/18/07 06:50 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: New York
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This is getting a little off point (surprise). The purpose of this post is to explain why escorting is the new feature dancing and shame pornographers that grossly underpay these girls. The Shirtwaist Triangle Company had nothing on you guys. As for Vanessa's question, big city's generally turn a blind eye to escort agencies as long as the play by the rules (stay out of residential areas and don't draw too much attention). If a girl gets busted its very much like a parking ticket. The serious charges like money laundering are always directed towards agencies that take credit cards and process them under shell companies like "Gotham Steaks"
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#237064 - 04/18/07 07:19 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
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yea - but escorts do a lot of guys even lamer than B-level porn guys. That's a scary thought.
hey Tri what is that wound in your breast?
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#237066 - 04/19/07 09:33 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 02/18/07
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F.H. You do realize you accused someone, by full name, of tax fraud on a public forum.
I didn't accuse anyone. I stated a fact. He's been doing since before 2000 but just started this "production" company about 2 years ago.
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#237067 - 04/19/07 09:36 PM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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If you think whores don't know economics, I take it you have never been to a strip club.
I"ve been to strip clubs. Those whores really don't know economics. I.E. at spearmint rhinos across the country, where many girls make the most money out of all strip clubs, pay $7 out of $20, $14 out of $40, and $40 out of $120 out of each dance. Plus they pay $100 for house fees and are required to buy 14 drinks (whether they or the guys pay for it).
After an 8 hour shit, hot hot girls make about $2000. After paying the house, and tipping everyone out...they clear a $1000.
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#237069 - 04/20/07 10:35 AM
Re: why performers escort part 1
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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F.H. You do realize you accused someone, by full name, of tax fraud on a public forum.
I didn't accuse anyone. I stated a fact. He's been doing since before 2000 but just started this "production" company about 2 years ago.
You are a retard. Now your not ust accusing people, but saying its a fact. How would you know what he declares on his taxes? People like you eventually get what they deserve. I hope in retaliation someone close to you rats you out and you get a full going over by the IRS.
Why would he set up a shell production company, which doesn't release anything nor have distribution, yet continues to shoot pornstars he fucks. He's been fucking these pornstars in private bookings pre-2000. And now he sets up this shell production company. Come on...one plus one equals two. Even a retard knows that.
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#237071 - 04/20/07 04:38 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/28/06
Posts: 202
Loc: Malibu
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hey Tri what is that wound in your breast?
I posted in another thread - it's a pic taken after a short S/M scene that's going to appear in Fashionistas 3.
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#237072 - 04/21/07 03:29 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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F.H. You do realize you accused someone, by full name, of tax fraud on a public forum.
I didn't accuse anyone. I stated a fact. He's been doing since before 2000 but just started this "production" company about 2 years ago.
You are a retard. Now your not ust accusing people, but saying its a fact. How would you know what he declares on his taxes? People like you eventually get what they deserve. I hope in retaliation someone close to you rats you out and you get a full going over by the IRS.
Why would he set up a shell production company, which doesn't release anything nor have distribution, yet continues to shoot pornstars he fucks. He's been fucking these pornstars in private bookings pre-2000. And now he sets up this shell production company. Come on...one plus one equals two. Even a retard knows that.
As long as we are no longer naming names, I have no prob with the speculation. I saw a link to a website he was setting up o maybe he's getting into production. But its been a while so maybe you are correct.
I can tell you I've toyed with the concept of setting up a shell production company myself. But just so I can call up LA Dirrect, Fox, Goldstar or other agency's and order up the latest talent a their shoot rate, rather than having to investigate who escorts.
His website looks like it was designed by the same people or guy that did Lori Lust's whore agency.
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#237073 - 04/22/07 07:40 AM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
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I"ve been to strip clubs. Those whores really don't know economics. I.E. at spearmint rhinos across the country, where many girls make the most money out of all strip clubs, pay $7 out of $20, $14 out of $40, and $40 out of $120 out of each dance. Plus they pay $100 for house fees and are required to buy 14 drinks (whether they or the guys pay for it).
After an 8 hour shit, hot hot girls make about $2000. After paying the house, and tipping everyone out...they clear a $1000.
This is absurd. You've described a best-case scenario which are few and far between. There are many more nights where the club is full of losers nursing a beer the entire night, "just looking", not buying dances, and not even tipping the dancers on stage. It's not uncommon to walk out owing the house money.
Also, aren't you being slightly disingenuous by pointing fingers? You run an escort agency for which you're known to "audition" new hires personally; presumably a number of them come from the Czech Republic. Would you care to comment on how you've chosen to incorporate, or how you personally circumvent RICO laws, the Mann Act, and the Trafficking Victims Protection Act?
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#237074 - 04/22/07 08:27 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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You left out money laundering.
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#237075 - 04/22/07 08:58 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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Then there are the clients. Some of the stories I've been told would curl your toes.
Please, tell us some of those stories...
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