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If you equate the United States treatment of terrorists with Iran, then you are not worth talking to.

As for facts, what is this mistreatment at Guantanimo you speak of? too much food?

what provisions of the Geneva convention have the US not abided by? You do realize that until the Supreme Court (wrongly) decided Hamden the conventional wisdom was that the Geneva convention did not apply to terrorists.




Fucking hell...

from http://hrw.org/backgrounder/usa/pow-bck.htm:

"Such statements from the U.S. government suggest that the U.S. government will apply its own standards to the detainees, determine its own standard of protection outside the Geneva system, picking and choosing those provisions of the Geneva Conventions it wishes to apply. The United States is ignoring important and relevant international standards, and is instead determining its own standards to the detainees. This also undermines long-time efforts by the U.S. military to incorporate the Geneva Conventions into the operations of the armed forces through its training programs and institutions."

America has usually held the high moral ground in its conflicts; it is important to remember this in 2007 where our nation is involved in a conflict of IDEALS...




General, taking a position that we don't have to apply the Geneva Covention, but we do anyway, is not flouting the same as violating the convention. Which is why I am still waiting to hear what provisions were violated? Do me a favor and read Us. v. Hamdan.




"picking and choosing"

"After reviewing Hamdan's habeas petition, Judge James Robertson of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia ruled in Hamdan's favor, finding that the United States could not hold a military commission unless it was first shown that the detainee was a prisoner of war."

"On July 15, 2005, a United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit three-judge panel of Arthur Raymond Randolph, John G. Roberts, Jr. and Stephen F. Williams, unanimously reversed the decision of the District Court."

"The Supreme Court announced its decision on 29 June 2006. The Court reversed the ruling of the Court of Appeals, holding that President Bush did not have authority to set up the war crimes tribunals and finding the special military commissions illegal under both military justice law and the Geneva Convention."

"The decision may have important implications for other disputes relating to the extent of executive power and the unitary executive theory. In particular, it may undermine the Bush administration's legal arguments for domestic wiretapping by the National Security Agency without warrants as required by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act."
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