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#229236 - 03/14/07 10:56 PM
i have never fucked a hooker
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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nor do i plan on ever doing it. in my naivety i always assumed most people in the world were in the same boat, but after a few illuminating discussions with drunk people and all the hooker talk here lately it's becoming apparent this is not the case. so i figured, poll time:
first person to say "everytime you have sex with a girl you're paying in some way, so what's the difference" is a walking cliche and should just end it now.
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#229237 - 03/14/07 11:01 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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never been with a hooker and never been to a strip club. go figure.
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#229238 - 03/14/07 11:06 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 3078
Loc: cleanup
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never been with a hooker and never been to a strip club. go figure.
Really? I can see never having been with a hooker, but you've never been to a strip club? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just unusual, that's all.
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#229239 - 03/14/07 11:07 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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never been with a hooker and never been to a strip club. go figure.
you'd crack if quinne was legs spread in front of you asking for tree fiddy though
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#229240 - 03/14/07 11:13 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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Never been with a hooker and never will. I've been to strip clubs though, and they make me uncomfortable. I prefer to exchange money for sex in less obvious ways, I guess.
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#229241 - 03/14/07 11:16 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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you've never been to a strip club? Not that there's anything wrong with that. Just unusual, that's all.
i've never been to a strip club. i was once at a dodgy pub (that was later shut down for using illegal immigrants as forced sex workers) and they had a stripper- allegedly "miss nude 1999" or some shit- working there freelance. before she got naked she went round to every table with a hat, essentially begging for change. at first we thought she couldn't afford a cab, so we all chucked in like a buck each. eventually she must have acquired an adequate amount- considering there was possibly 20 people in the bar, that amount was probably $40 or so- and stripped for the pub. most patrons were more annoyed that the bartended turned the footy off whilst she performed than they were interested in her work. afterwards she handed out her card to everyone.
horrendous night all round, really.
Edited by Eddie Normous (03/14/07 11:18 PM)
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#229242 - 03/14/07 11:17 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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no. to each their own but paying for sex would make me feel really "weird" for lack of a better word.
if you want to have sex it's not impossible to find someone who wants to have sex with you. i can't claim to be familiar with a lot of expensive escorts, but i've found there are girls as pretty/prettier than porn chicks/escorts who like having sex.
if you're horny/lazy/blood is coming out of your favorite vagina this week masturbation can pinch-hit. it's a lot cheaper,more immediate and less likely to give you herpes or an embarassing arrest record.
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#229245 - 03/14/07 11:29 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 3078
Loc: cleanup
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I don't think I've been to a strip club since the mid '90s. Back when I was cooking in this steak house. Every Friday, we'd pick up our checks at 3:00, cash 'em and head over for a few beers and the show at this place, who's name escapes me at the moment, before heading back to work by 5:00. But not since then. There are better ways to waste your money.
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#229247 - 03/15/07 12:38 AM
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Porn Icon
Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
Loc: The Dirty: 480
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have you fucked a hooker?
Nope. It's sinful behavior, you'll burn.
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#229248 - 03/15/07 12:47 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
Posts: 14160
Loc: NYC
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I've always wanted to pick up the common street walker kind...maybe the kind that costs $40, but just have her do some simple household chores. A half-hour of vacuuming or maybe just strip and let me photograph her playing Legos naked. Is this possible?
Burg or any hooker addicts out there, would I get yelled at (other than probably robbed) or is money money?
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#229249 - 03/15/07 12:48 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
Posts: 14755
Loc: Busy downloading [LEGALLY!]
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Never had a hooker. Likely never will. But, it's more out of fear of STDs and a record than anything else. If it was legal, the girls had daily up-to-date AIM-type certificates that somehow include herpes, were young and hot, and very reasonably priced ... who knows?? BUT: Everytime you have sex with a girl you're paying in some way, so what's the difference! 
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#229251 - 03/15/07 02:13 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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I've always wanted to pick up the common street walker kind...maybe the kind that costs $40, but just have her do some simple household chores. A half-hour of vacuuming or maybe just strip and let me photograph her playing Legos naked. Is this possible?
Burg or any hooker addicts out there, would I get yelled at (other than probably robbed) or is money money?
*tweeet tweeet* Burg Blows whistle, throws flags....
Ok, I AM NOT A HOOKER addict (I have plenty of other addictions), and I DEFINITELY do not mess around with 40 dollar streetwalkers. WTF?
Yes Baby Gia, someone as even keel and outwardly refined as yourself would definitely get fucking robbed by typical LA Streetwalkers and probably have a Walmart Plunger rammed up your ass to boot (Little do they know that you might actually enjoy that part, but still, intent is 90% of the crime and they would INTEND to hurt you via Anal Plunge ...) As for myself, I too would be fucking rolled and robbed by street urchins with "some teeth" and Walgreens' bags full of Microwave popcorn and Cornchips. They would dump my ass in in the gutter and scoot off with my wheelchair, wallet, 200 bucks in cash, 4 credit and 2 ATM cards, a spare house key, and various personal documents. If they were really on the ball and sadistic, they would also yank the 3000 dollar hearing aid out of my ear. Gen Padova would get a chuckle out of that....
No, What Gia should do if she wants naked whores to vacuum her kitchen or Play Legos with her first thing in the morning, is she should spring for the 250 bucks an hour and Buy the services of Nude Housekeepers. This is a thoroughly UNDERRATED and FUN form of sexually deviant entertainment, one which I used to use periodically back when I lived in San Jose several years ago. My company at the time paid for my Condo and certain monthly allowances which included a modest amount for housekeeping. Since I am a NEAT freak, I am always clean anyway, so once a month I would splurge and have a couple NUDE maids over to prance around my pad and flash their pussies and tits at me all morning. I never fucked them, although on a couple occassions it was made known to me that it was "OK" if I wanted to whack off while they worked, and that they would "accomodate my efforts to do so by lingering within a few feet of me to ensure the floor around where I was sitting was ESPECIALLY CLEAN". So long as I graciously included a nice tip afterwards...as hott as the situation sometimes became, I never did that, I was too shy I guess, plus I didnt want the "maid" to have to clean up my jizz puddle later on. Hey, afterall I had to live there!
So Baby Gia, perhaps you should spring for a totally HOT Lego Playmate and see what the two of you can Build together. I would be curious as to what quantity of Lego pieces could be accomodated up a chick's ass?
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#229252 - 03/15/07 02:26 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 481
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Well, there are "hookers" and there are "hookers".
I've never picked up a streetwalker or called someone from craigslist or one of those escort ads in the city paper.
However, I've been around strippers enough (was married to one for six years) to eventually start getting offers to "help them make some extra cash".
This works pretty well. No pimps or cops in the equation, I know them well enough to know which substances they are abusing, and yet you still get the benefit of knowing they will go home afterward and not expect flowers or a phone call. You can discriminate between the ones that fuck anyone who pays for an extra couch dance and the ones that are sick of not making enough money and heard that Calvin is usually up for something and won't store their dismembered body in his basement when he is finished.
In some cases, the relationship has transitioned to "fuck buddy", which is cheaper but then you have to wait until they really want to fuck instead of knowing that every time a bill is due you will get a phone call asking if you can "help them out"
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#229253 - 03/15/07 02:40 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 09/13/06
Posts: 173
Loc: In front of my monitor...
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I have never paid for sex, and I never will. For two reasons: 1. I'm caught up in a "no sex without love" ideology. Most men laugh about me behind my back because of that. Some women go: "that's so romantic" and sigh...  2. I'm germophobic as hell, afraid of STDs, fungal diseases and body fluids in general. Yuck! I would probably die if had to endure a lapdance. If someone I don't know accidently touches me, I go crazy.  Been to a strip club. It was sad. Bored, disgusted, hard-looking women going through their standard list of "sexy moves". Painful to watch. I felt sorry for the ladies, but not sorry enough to support the continuation of their lifestyle with my money. Got up and left. End of strip club experience. 
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#229255 - 03/15/07 03:20 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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You don't pay a hooker for sex. You pay her for shutting up and leaving after. 
'I don't pay them to come. I pay them to leave.'
-Don Simpson, movie producer and role model. 
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#229256 - 03/15/07 04:17 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/04/06
Posts: 4203
Loc: Bakersfield Plumbing Supplies ...
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Are we including porn chicks?
Never been with a hooker, but my all time worst experience would've been years ago when I had to pick up a camera as a favor. It was a bg shot in a seedy motel with a really skanky ho. My friend, who begged me to shoot it, banged this girl every which way and then did her in the ass doggy style. He pulled out, popped and then wiped his shitty dick on a towel. The room stank of anal sex and the chick turned to me as I was packing the camera away, her ass still in the air, brown lube smeared on it and asked if I wanted to go next.
"TAXI!"
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#229259 - 03/15/07 08:56 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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I have never picked up a street walker, but have engaged an escort on a few occasions. I have found that intimate contact with a young woman, uncluttered by the complications of a personal relationship, can be quite satisfying, especially when you are between girlfriends.
Judge me morally if you like, but I have always leaned towards the notion that men, who have never hired a prostitute, were missing out on a rite of passage to manhood, like shooting your first deer or driving a car for the first time.
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#229260 - 03/15/07 09:03 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9184
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like shooting your first deer or driving a car for the first time.
You could knock out all three if you drove down the street for a date with Daisy Duxx. 
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#229262 - 03/15/07 09:49 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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men, who have never hired a prostitute, were missing out on a rite of passage to manhood
... or missing out on AIDS, syphilis, herpes, etc. No thanks, I'd rather fuck a friend with benefits ANY day over some piece of trash whore. I believe that everyone's free to do what they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone, but paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
or less than a mans opinion as the case may be
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#229263 - 03/15/07 09:54 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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men, who have never hired a prostitute, were missing out on a rite of passage to manhood
... or missing out on AIDS, syphilis, herpes, etc. No thanks, I'd rather fuck a friend with benefits ANY day over some piece of trash whore. I believe that everyone's free to do what they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone, but paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
or less than a mans opinion as the case may be
Lol, call me what you want, but I'm not the one buying sex homeboy.
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#229264 - 03/15/07 09:58 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 02/23/05
Posts: 3724
Loc: Paddling my canoe in the wild
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I have never picked up a street walker, but have engaged an escort on a few occasions. I have found that intimate contact with a young woman, uncluttered by the complications of a personal relationship, can be quite satisfying, especially when you are between girlfriends.
Judge me morally if you like, but I have always leaned towards the notion that men, who have never hired a prostitute, were missing out on a rite of passage to manhood, like shooting your first deer or driving a car for the first time.
It's interesting that on a porn board, most people look down on folks who pay for play, while on hooker review boards, they get all agitated about escorts that do porn (primarily because it's condom free).
In Canada it's not illegal (there are some rules, however) widely available, reasonably inexpensive and generally safe (hey you want bareback anal, that's a different story).
It may be a difference of degree only, but fucking a crackwhore streetwalker for $40 in your car is not the same thing as getting a blow job after a massage from a college student in one of the dozens (and dozens) of massage parlours in the greater vancouver area.
Propositioning streetwalkers (in Vancouver) is just stupid and desperate, and might get you pinched by an undercover cop (one of those exceptions I alluded to earlier).
Here's a link to one of Vancouver's more upscale agencies. There are very few porn girls as attractive as the least attractive girl on this site. Let me know if you need hotel recommendations too.
www.carmanfox.com
Edited by soopergrizz (03/15/07 09:58 AM)
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#229265 - 03/15/07 10:11 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Lol, call me what you want, but I'm not the one buying sex homeboy.
If you're buying any porn at all, then yes you are. Your just not big enough to do it in the flesh, man-child.
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#229266 - 03/15/07 10:27 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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Lol, call me what you want, but I'm not the one buying sex homeboy.
If you're buying any porn at all, then yes you are. Your just not big enough to do it in the flesh, man-child.
I beg to differ, buying porn has absolutely nothing to do with paying a skank whore to service you. It's your own problem that you have to pay to get your rocks off.
Here's an idea, work on your social skills, clean yourself up a little, get away from your computer for awhile, and interact with ACTUAL women (ie: not the ones on your tv) Maybe then you can get pussy without throwing money at it.
Feel free to PM me if you need some pointers... follow my advice, and someday you can be a functioning member of society too! We're all rooting for you! 
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#229267 - 03/15/07 10:32 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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i might have an entirely different view of things if i lived in amsterdam or whatnot. when weighed against the potential to end up in the back of a cruiser knowing you're going to be the proverbial disgraced white guy from the white side of town and that taint's never going away any laziness i might have about going through legal avenues to get laid seems to vanish. maybe i've had some kind of charmed life, but just finding chicks isn't such an onerous task.
there's also no fucking way i'm giving any agency the kind of information about where i work, my permanent residence or my credit card number.
the second they go down, they're handing that shit over to vice or selling it because the press never gets tired of hooker lists with charlie sheen's name on them. i'll pass on having mine dissemenated. escort agencies have no business accruing the kind of info equifax does on me, you'd think envelopes of cash would still mean something when you want to do something illegal.
i understand hookers end up dead, but is it really ones that someone paid over 5k for in advance and met away from the wife and kids at a westin or four seasons? you can't help but realizing you're on their eyes in the sky in every part of a nice hotel save for your room. you're not bringing/leaving a body there anywhere without a neat murder-one case made against you.
it's not going to stop undercovers when your time is up and they decide to bend some rules-they'll eventually get past those kind of checks. when it's time to move, they'll figure out how to get the rules changed on you screaming you're a rico issue and need a different level of monitoring. or they'll just lie and it's a hookers word vs. some 20-year vet who just helped break up a violent gang.
those background checks are just going to ruin a lot of customer's lives when someone thinks the agency owner isn't paying enough taxes. fuck that.
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#229269 - 03/15/07 10:37 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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I beg to differ, buying porn has absolutely nothing to do with paying a skank whore to service you. It's your own problem that you have to pay to get your rocks off.
Here's an idea, work on your social skills, clean yourself up a little, get away from your computer for awhile, and interact with ACTUAL women (ie: not the ones on your tv) Maybe then you can get pussy without throwing money at it.
Feel free to PM me if you need some pointers... follow my advice, and someday you can be a functioning member of society too! We're all rooting for you!
porn = prostitution by proxy
If you have a moral aversion to prostitution, you're being a complete hypocrite purchasing porn. As for diseases they have this device out now called a condom, it's quite effective, I recommend you put one over your face and asphyxiate.
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#229270 - 03/15/07 11:05 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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I beg to differ, buying porn has absolutely nothing to do with paying a skank whore to service you. It's your own problem that you have to pay to get your rocks off.
Here's an idea, work on your social skills, clean yourself up a little, get away from your computer for awhile, and interact with ACTUAL women (ie: not the ones on your tv) Maybe then you can get pussy without throwing money at it.
Feel free to PM me if you need some pointers... follow my advice, and someday you can be a functioning member of society too! We're all rooting for you!
porn = prostitution by proxy
If you have a moral aversion to prostitution, you're being a complete hypocrite purchasing porn. As for diseases they have this device out now called a condom, it's quite effective, I recommend you put one over your face and asphyxiate.
I think you need to re-read what I wrote instead of trying to put words in my mouth. I have no moral stance on the subject.
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I believe that everyone's free to do what they want, as long as they're not hurting anyone, but paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
I'm all for legalizing prostitution, all I'm saying is, anyone who's not hideously deformed should be able to get laid without money changing hands. Luckily, they'll always be two-dollar whores for you put your diseased hands on.
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#229271 - 03/15/07 11:12 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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porn = prostitution by proxy
I think you need to re-read what I wrote. You're engaging in a form of prostitution yourself, you're just not man enough to do it in person. Just saying. As far as $2 dollar whores go, I think you should leave your family out of this.
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#229272 - 03/15/07 11:53 AM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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porn = prostitution by proxy
I think you need to re-read what I wrote. You're engaging in a form of prostitution yourself, you're just not man enough to do it in person. Just saying. As far as $2 dollar whores go, I think you should leave your family out of this.
Nice try, but not quite... I didn't pay the girls in the movies to fuck me, I just bought the DVD. All the people in the pornos I own are essentially prostitutes, but that doesn't make me the John, because I personally am not having sex with them.
If you're talking about a broad use of the word "prostitution", then I'm guilty because Sharon Stone flashed her poonaner in Basic Instinct, among many other movies I own that have nudity.
You, on the other hand, HAVE paid for sex because you can't get it anywhere else, which is why you're a pathetic waste of skin. I'm not "man enough" to hand a bitch money for a bj? C'mon, get real dude, any asshole can do that. I can get pussy whenever I want without paying anyone, that man enough for you, fucko?
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#229273 - 03/15/07 12:13 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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some of the people i know who've paid for sex aren't doing it out of desperation. i've got a friend who is admittedly freakishly-attractive, well-off and has an authentic eton affectation chicks love. every now and then, he just stops dating for a few months and goes on a hooker binge then re-acclimates.
it's got absolutely nothing to do with ability to get laid for the guy, it's some weird polaric-vacillation between wanting to be in love and giving up on the concept that happens yearly.
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#229274 - 03/15/07 12:17 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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I had a friend in high school who looked a little old for his age who frequented hookers at least once a week. He was otherwise a normal high school junior/senior who didn't seem to be socially broken in any way.
He said he liked sex but didn't like all the other bullshit involved in a relationship.
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#229275 - 03/15/07 12:29 PM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 11/14/04
Posts: 1460
Loc: Down there
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This vod guy is stupid. It's as simple as this. I doesn't matter how you get the pussy. In the long run, you're still paying for it. Dinners, gifts, expenses, etc. for a girlfriend/wife or you can cut the bullshit and fuck a prostie, no strings attached.
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#229276 - 03/15/07 12:33 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Nice try, but not quite... I didn't pay the girls in the movies to fuck me, I just bought the DVD. All the people in the pornos I own are essentially prostitutes, but that doesn't make me the John, because I personally am not having sex with them.
But you did pay the girls to fuck someone else, just because you get off on watching only doesn’t mean you haven’t hired a prostitute. Prostitution by proxy.
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You, on the other hand, HAVE paid for sex because you can't get it anywhere else, which is why you're a pathetic waste of skin.
Lol. Where exactly did I say that? Putting words into my mouth? There you go moralizing. If it wasn’t such a sensitive issue for you, you wouldn’t be on the attack like this. Your Moral Majority bumper sticker awaits you, numb nuts.
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I can get pussy whenever I want without paying anyone, that man enough for you, fucko?
Is that why you buy so much porn? Oh, oh I forgot you have to have a relationship before you have sex. Do you take your hand out, buy it dinner, and then whisper sweet nothings into your fingernails? I may pay every once in a while to fuck a woman, but it sure beats paying just to fuck my own hand.
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#229277 - 03/15/07 12:37 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
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some of the people i know who've paid for sex aren't doing it out of desperation. i've got a friend who is admittedly freakishly-attractive, well-off and has an authentic eton affectation chicks love. every now and then, he just stops dating for a few months and goes on a hooker binge then re-acclimates.
it's got absolutely nothing to do with ability to get laid for the guy, it's some weird polaric-vacillation between wanting to be in love and giving up on the concept that happens yearly.
I see what you're saying. Different people get off on different things, some people dig hookers, which is cool. In my own situation, I never personally saw the attraction or the need. Just like I don't see the attraction in scat porn.... because I wouldn't watch or do something myself, doesn't mean I'm necessarily against it.
To each their own as long as all parties consent, and no one's doing anything against their will. Although the situation for your friend seems like it's just something fun for him to do, or treat himself to, I seriously doubt that the majority of "Johns" have that same mindset. Then again, it's hard to say considering most people who pay for sex prefer to stay anonymous.
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#229278 - 03/15/07 12:54 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
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Hav2- A couple of things... #1 Quote:
I have never picked up a street walker, but have engaged an escort on a few occasions.
This is where you said you paid for sex, I'm not putting words in your mouth.
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Is that why you buy so much porn?
I bought 1 porn in my entire life when I was 15, everything else I've gotten for free from studios. How does that rate on the "buying sex" chart?
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Oh, oh I forgot you have to have a relationship before you have sex.
This one goes to BIFF as well, you fellas ever hear of "friends with benefits"? Don't either of you hang out with any good looking, non-porn whores, or go to bars? All I'm saying is that I don't see the need to give a bitch money to get sex, that's all. I'm not by any means passing judgement, or saying there's any need for a relationship first, I'm just saying that there are other ways of "fucking for the sake of fucking" that don't involve having to pay.
One last thing, you never responded to my example of Basic Instinct, or any mainstream movies with nudity, technically I'm paying to see them nude as well, so I guess I'm technically "paying" for sex, correct?
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#229279 - 03/15/07 01:21 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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This is where you said you paid for sex, I'm not putting words in your mouth.
Mr. Moral Majority, you said I get nothing but.  Why don’t you reread your own garbage.
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I bought 1 porn in my entire life when I was 15, everything else I've gotten for free from studios. How does that rate on the "buying sex" chart?
You get it free from the industry studios? That means you work in and or around the porn industry itself? You still don’t think you have anything to do with prostitution, even though you make a living from them?
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This one goes to BIFF as well, you fellas ever hear of "friends with benefits"? Don't either of you hang out with any good looking, non-porn whores, or go to bars?
So you hang around non porn whores but don’t pay for sex *cough bullshit cough*.
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I'm not by any means passing judgement, or saying there's any need for a relationship first, I'm just saying that there are other ways of "fucking for the sake of fucking" that don't involve having to pay.
When you claim to be superior to someone morally, that by definition is passing judgment.
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One last thing, you never responded to my example of Basic Instinct, or any mainstream movies with nudity, technically I'm paying to see them nude as well, so I guess I'm technically "paying" for sex, correct?
That’s because it is totally irrelevant, much like you. People pay porners to perform sex on screen, people pay actors to pretend to have sex on screen. The difference lies somewhere between the worlds of make believe and reality, I don’t really expect you to grasp the difference.
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#229280 - 03/15/07 01:39 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 07/30/06
Posts: 1712
Loc: at the end of the longest line
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Never been with a prostitute, and more than likely never will.
I like strip clubs a little bit too much though, ask any of my friends. Never had any offers like Calvin mentioned, though, but then again I have horrible luck with women and probably would not take any up on the offer if they did.
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#229281 - 03/15/07 01:59 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/04/06
Posts: 4203
Loc: Bakersfield Plumbing Supplies ...
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Just because I've never paid for it, doesn't mean I look down on anyone who does. I know way too many hookers and working in the biz means *I have absolutely no right to judge anyone else's sexuality, whether they're straight, gay, bi or just like fingers in their ass.
Besides, I sometimes find myself looking at hott Asian hookers and thinking maybe I should buy myself something nice some time.
Nothing wrong with paying for sex. Like Biff says, we all eventually do, anyway. And the reality is you're probably statistically more likely to pick up an STD from a porn chick than you are an expensive call girl these days.
This is an interesting thread though, if you want to really get into what separates a performer from a hooker, particularly at the lower end of the gonzo ladder.
(*I may not judge, but I fully reserve the right to mock)
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#229285 - 03/15/07 02:40 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
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Loc: New York
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One of the reasons I see escorts is that it entitles me to a class of female that I would have no shot with in a million years. I'm a very attractive and successful guy, but the chances of my fucking a Penthouse pet like Amy Darren are as good as my replacing Joe Torre. I also like banging 19 year olds, which if you not in the industry is a tad harder to do. One thing I've learned is that fucking whores is much harder than watching other people fuck whores from the comfort of your lounger. Its physically demanding and can be mentally challenging as well.
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#229286 - 03/15/07 02:42 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 481
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I'll let BIFF off of the hook on this one, since the thread had already veered into that territory long before he took up the cliche.
As for the "can't get it anywhere else" line, jamesn brought up some good counter-examples. And it is a fact that most users are married/in a relationship. And don't use the fallback "yes, but their wives are ugly/frigid/bad lays". No matter how attractive the woman, there is someone out there who is tired of having sex with her. This is where it becomes worth the cash payout to guarantee no strings, no jealous phone calls, no "when are you going to tell her about us!!!" conversations.
In my case, I am also just constitutionally incapable of turning down an offer of sex from a woman I've long been attracted to, even if it is going to cost me.
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#229287 - 03/15/07 02:51 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
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escort agencies have no business accruing the kind of info equifax does on me, you'd think envelopes of cash would still mean something when you want to do something illegal.
i understand hookers end up dead, but is it really ones that someone paid over 5k for in advance and met away from the wife and kids at a westin or four seasons? you can't help but realizing you're on their eyes in the sky in every part of a nice hotel save for your room. you're not bringing/leaving a body there anywhere without a neat murder-one case made against you.
those background checks are just going to ruin a lot of customer's lives when someone thinks the agency owner isn't paying enough taxes. fuck that.
What kind of a business doesn't keep records on its clients, pray tell?
This is a variant of a rant that takes place regularly on whoreboards, and to it, I say: tough shit. At all price levels, in crack-infested alleys and five-star hotels, hookers are subject to robbery, assault, and yes, death....and oh yeah, the minor inconvenience of getting arrested by undercover cops. Somebody getting outed to his wife or employer when an agency gets popped doesn't even begin to compare, and it's really his own responsibility in the first place. If one decides to fuck hookers, one runs the risk of getting caught. Don't want to get caught? Don't fuck hookers. Simple, really.
By the way - in all 50 states, save a handful of counties in Nevada, prostituting oneself is illegal. In very few is it a crime to purchase the services of a prostitute. It's a lovely double standard.
Instead of ranting about women (and some men and trannies) trying to protect themselves - and this isn't really directed at you, James - why don't men put their money where their mouths are and get involved with one of the many not-for-profit groups who are working to decriminalize prostitution?
Sorry for the pointed reply, but I'm about to start bleeding. Red wings, anyone?
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#229288 - 03/15/07 03:05 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move. This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
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#229289 - 03/15/07 03:22 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
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#229290 - 03/15/07 03:28 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
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#229291 - 03/15/07 03:50 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Shouldn't you feel worse that your paying Lockwood to fuck them for you.    
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#229292 - 03/15/07 04:06 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Shouldn't you feel worse that your paying Lockwood to fuck them for you.
Not at all! I'm all for porn man, but buying porno, and buying a chick to fuck are two very different things. Saying the two of them are one in the same is like saying that watching "Goodfellas" is going to make me a gangster. Porn's the same way... I love watching porn, but I would never be in porn.
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#229293 - 03/15/07 04:29 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Exactly, you feel ashamed and morally outraged by the thought and wish to project your disgust onto other people. Happens all the time.
If you are part of the porn industry you are involved in prostitution, plain and simple. No amount of your moralizing will change that fact.
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#229294 - 03/15/07 04:34 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Exactly, you feel ashamed and morally outraged by the thought and wish to project your disgust onto other people. Happens all the time.
If you are part of the porn industry you are involved in prostitution, plain and simple. No amount of your moralizing will change that fact.
Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
Hey, does anyone else wanna kick this DEAD HORSE with me? My leg's getting tired.
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#229295 - 03/15/07 04:41 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
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Hey, does anyone else wanna kick this DEAD HORSE with me? My leg's getting tired.
I thought we were going to leave your family out of this?
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#229298 - 03/15/07 05:02 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
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i don't like giving people info in general. if someone sued me, they'd find ten grand in a checking account i buy groceries with and my car available to them before they'd start having to start dealing with an expensive, uncooperative and time-consuming bunch of little governments with very different laws from one to the next. i don't let my health insurer know if i get a sinus infection i just cough up a little more money and pay the full price for the medicine at cvs to stay out of their computers. the majority of my medical history never makes it to the point of being randomly databased and shared without notifying you someone requested it. i'm pretty happy with being as close to a ghost as someone can be while still having insurance if i get helivaced out of somewhere in the yukon.
it's not a complaint-hiring an escort is off my radar if they want to know that kind of stuff and i don't have the ability to make sure the records are destroyed as soon as the girl comes back to work alive.
if i was in the chick's shoes, i'd sure as fuck want them to know everything possible about someone hiring me.
some people obviously value the experience enough to take that risk, i don't.
anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
five years later, you've got a wife and 2 very young kids and one day some guys with badges show up at work and all of a sudden you're part of some page-6 hooker trial and scandal testifying on court tv with warren beatty. you blew it, you're chasing ambulances in some new city if you were a lawyer and your wife and kids are going to be "that hooker guy's family" forever. to each their own, i'd rather have to hunt on my own or jerk off than have to worry about it would blow up on me for years down the road.
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#229299 - 03/15/07 05:09 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here. I have no problem with people buying hookers, but I personally wouldn't.
To kick a dead horse....
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If I was ever in a position where I needed a hooker to get sex, I'd much rather blow my brains out, Private Pyle style.
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...paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
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anyone who's not hideously deformed should be able to get laid without money changing hands
Sooo, someone logged in with your account and made these statements?
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#229301 - 03/15/07 05:20 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here. I have no problem with people buying hookers, but I personally wouldn't.
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If I was ever in a position where I needed a hooker to get sex, I'd much rather blow my brains out, Private Pyle style.
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...paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
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anyone who's not hideously deformed should be able to get laid without money changing hands
Sooo, someone logged in with your account and made these statements?
Nope, that was me! As I also stated, I would feel bad about myself if I paid a chick for sex.... I'd probably feel pathetic, and a little like Pyle.
As for the "hideously deformed" statement, it's true. Anyone who's not should be able to get laid for free. If they wanna pay for it too, that's their choice.
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#229302 - 03/15/07 05:31 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Then everything I've said is true, you do feel morally superior over a simple matter of semantics. Since your not buying the prostitute for yourself, it's completely OK, and anyone who does is less than you?
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#229303 - 03/15/07 06:02 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 481
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The "guy in a hockey mask" versus "redneck with a shotgun" avatars really add atmosphere to this cage match.
It's like the NCAA tournament in the regionals, when most of the double-digit seeds are long gone and only the big boys are left to "duke" it out.
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#229305 - 03/15/07 06:40 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
Posts: 481
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Well, that is a problem. Cage matches are much sweeter when at least one of the participants is emotionally invested in them. Did I mention that VoD Guy thinks you are a ?
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#229306 - 03/15/07 07:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
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#229307 - 03/15/07 08:19 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
five years later, you've got a wife and 2 very young kids and one day some guys with badges show up at work and all of a sudden you're part of some page-6 hooker trial and scandal testifying on court tv with warren beatty. you blew it, you're chasing ambulances in some new city if you were a lawyer and your wife and kids are going to be "that hooker guy's family" forever. to each their own, i'd rather have to hunt on my own or jerk off than have to worry about it would blow up on me for years down the road.
That's paranoid hyperbole - where's a real life example of that actually happening? First, you're never obliged to give a statement without a lawyer. Anyone who doesn't keep himself informed of his 5th Amendment rights is stupid.
Second, the Blue Knights rarely press charges against hooker clients, the occasional street john sting being the exception. Why do you think the D.C. DOJ was shitting in its pants when Deborah Palfrey announced she was going to sell her phone records to the media and tried to slap her with a gag order? There is no issue of "letting an agency keeping records" here - Palfrey was in business from 1994, long before there were such things as pre-paid cell phones, or even cellphones that were smaller than the size of a phonebook. Baby Bell statements are forever.
Palfrey paid her taxes, just like Jenny Paulino. The Feds charged both of them with money laundering despite that, in order to protect the moral fiber of our great nation.
If you or any other red-blooded American men want to fuck hookers with total impunity, like I said, you should start giving your time or money to SWOP or COYOTE or one of a zillion other groups that work to decriminalize prostitution.
But somehow, I don't see that happening. As you were, thevodguy and have2cit.
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#229308 - 03/15/07 08:38 PM
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so far it's pretty tight, 16 yes's to 20 no's. xpt is full of dirty hooker fuckers, clearly.
personally, i'll all for legalising prostitution- i'm pretty sure that that's the situation here in australia- but i don't think that it solves too many issues other than reducing criminal records. in terms of safety, i think as long as "dead hooker" is a universal punchline it's always going to be a dangerous industry. and health risks- look at the netherlands, where sex workers have the same legal right as any other self-employed professional, and 7% of them still have hiv. seven percent!
the problem is, i just can't see it ever getting to the stage where the majority of prostitutes are in the industry purely for economic reasons. sure, there'll always be a demand for a sex industry, and thus there'll always be an incentive for sex workers to satisfy that demand. but not all clients can spend hundreds on top class "escorts", there'll always be people who can only afford a ten dollar backseat fuck. and i think therein lies the problem- who's going to service that market? who, without a drug habit, emotional problem or financial desperation, can rationalise that their vagina is worth ten dollars?
sure, legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
in my opinion, of course.
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#229309 - 03/15/07 10:17 PM
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legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
True. Also, fast food, garbage disposal, and nuclear waste decontamination will remain industries that you won't want to work in. But, the world needs ditch diggers, too. If you aren't good at anything else, at least you can feed yourself by scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Capitalism will put a price on anything, including dignity. Hell, you can put a price on human life, just measure the different wages paid to construction workers based on how high up they work, and compare that to the increased chance of being in a fatal accident.
You can put a price on dignity, and people do it every day.
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#229310 - 03/16/07 12:32 AM
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Porn Jesus
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i don't really know enough about escorts or what goes on with that world and there's still something that geeks me out about trusting people to commodify sex. i'll bow to your wisdom about it and admit that it's not something i'm bothered with but not something i really care about enough that i get fired up about legalizing on the amsterdam-model's success in avoiding crime which has nothing to do with anything other than their immigration numbers or lack thereof. countries with less than a total 5% of all minorities combined who are actually making it more difficult for anyone poor, uneducated or white to even get jerked around for the full 12-years in hopes the "undesirables" would have trouble having a constant income doing nonresident jobs and they'd be subject to deportion. rich people are really fucking easy to police, it's got nothing to do with how open the minds of the people are just how closed the borders are.
don't even try to argue the baby bell statements or anything about 1994 and madames trying to shop books though. no disgruntled receptionist at elegant angel posted 400 real names and DOB's to some forum, nobody lost their jobs because someone was cc'ed on an email they shouldn't have been. that file would have sat on a computer operated by one person and there's a good chance it wasn't networked with another computer in the same office. you've got someone answering phones sending emails to their friends half of the day. or they're computer illiterate. shit happens. someone else is famous on that list and gossip still got killed by cautious editors or lawyers. it happens in a day, nobody cares about trying to shop paris' phone messages they just fucking did it. some girl who did 3 movies probably shows the real name/dob list as one of the first results google spits back-shit moves fast, gets in random people's hands and there are people willing to put it up and it's forever. prepaid cell phones hardly make up for that. plus, there were pay phones in 1994.
again, i know nothing about escorts and don't really get worked up about the right/wrong. instead, i'll completely avoid talking about the thread topic and about amsterdam and why i don't like giving information to people when i'm trying to give them money. i've paid an auto body shop in one and five dollar bills when they asked for a second photo id then said they could only take a certified check for amounts over a whatever the amount was and refused to call the bank then wouldn't give me the car back that afternoon that i'd already left work early to do. i'd rather go back to using gold than jump through hoops to impress and prove myself to someone i'm trying to give money to.
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#229312 - 03/16/07 05:16 AM
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Happy fucknuts?
Not until your dead and cold and lay rotting in the earth.
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#229314 - 03/16/07 05:21 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Someone tried that before, but I just clawed my way out.
No, actually that was your moms cunt.
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#229316 - 03/16/07 05:41 AM
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Porn Jesus
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No, I distinctly remember seeing dead gerbils, so it had to have either been the ground, or your dad's ass. Considering I've never met your dad, I'm assuming that it was, in fact, the ground.
I have no doubt dead gerbils follow you everywhere. Even into your mothers filthy AIDS ridden cunt.
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#229318 - 03/16/07 05:52 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Hey now, leave your sister out of this... afterall, it's not my fault that she passed your AIDS onto me when she had me.
ha ha, you have AIDS, you shouldn't kiss your brother on the lips just to taste your fathers semen, should you?
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#229320 - 03/16/07 06:08 AM
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Why not? Afterall, you never had a problem doing it before.
Sorry never met your brother, he would be the one in the pink dress.
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#229322 - 03/16/07 06:22 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were asking my advice! "Pink dress", lol, that's so cute! You know, I don't care what everyone else says, you're much smarter than the average lower-middle class inbred retard.
lower-middle class? that's rich coming from a pimp. you do work in the industry. So did your dad actually turn out your mom or was it you?
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#229325 - 03/16/07 08:30 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Pimp is right, motherfucker! Now pay me what you owe me or I'm gonna have to use my pimphand on you again.
Bitch please, your pimp hand is so week even your momma withholds the money, and the only thing I owe you is a return of the butt rash you gave my dog. He has been strangely subdued since your visit. 
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#229327 - 03/16/07 10:24 AM
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so far it's pretty tight, 16 yes's to 20 no's. xpt is full of dirty hooker fuckers, clearly.
personally, i'll all for legalising prostitution- i'm pretty sure that that's the situation here in australia- but i don't think that it solves too many issues other than reducing criminal records. in terms of safety, i think as long as "dead hooker" is a universal punchline it's always going to be a dangerous industry. and health risks- look at the netherlands, where sex workers have the same legal right as any other self-employed professional, and 7% of them still have hiv. seven percent!
the problem is, i just can't see it ever getting to the stage where the majority of prostitutes are in the industry purely for economic reasons. sure, there'll always be a demand for a sex industry, and thus there'll always be an incentive for sex workers to satisfy that demand. but not all clients can spend hundreds on top class "escorts", there'll always be people who can only afford a ten dollar backseat fuck. and i think therein lies the problem- who's going to service that market? who, without a drug habit, emotional problem or financial desperation, can rationalise that their vagina is worth ten dollars?
sure, legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
in my opinion, of course.
I am in 100% percent agreement with you. There will always be sad, desperate people on the dregs of society, and there will always be those who are delighted to prey on them.
I like to use the analogy of wearing seatbelts. Wearing a seatbelt isn't always going to save your life in a car accident, but you've got a better shot at survival. Similarly, there is not a 100% perfect solution to the problem of prostitution, but I think you can see how, for example, a legal brothel with security staff and regular health checks is a much safer environment for a prostitute to work in than a street corner or even a Hyatt. Strength in numbers.
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#229329 - 03/16/07 10:38 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Every time I read a reference to legalizing prostitution I wonder how long it would take for some smart bastard to package and franchise it. Corporate would recruit the whores- ship them off to whore school in Kansas. Straighten out the dental and front them the tit jobs, hair dye and extensions. They'd be shipped out by the busloads to franchisees in all corners of the country.
McWhores
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#229330 - 03/16/07 11:21 AM
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Porn Jesus
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See, now I know you're full of shit...
Is that why every time I squeeze your pointed little head shit comes oozing out your ears. Don't get mad because you got crap for brains. If you wanna blame someone, blame your mom, that's what I do every time I have to read another one of your worthless posts.
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#229333 - 03/16/07 12:48 PM
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anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
That's paranoid hyperbole - where's a real life example of that actually happening?
I have a real life example of exactly that thing happening.
About five years ago, a high end escort agency in Winnipeg (think way north of Chicago) got busted for tax evasion. As part of the court record, the accounting documents for the company were filed as exhibits - including credit card receipts.
The information contained the names of many prominent politicians, businesspeople, and sports personalities.
Noone could be criminally prosecuted (paying for sex is not illegal in Canada), but there were lineups in the courthouse to see the documents for gossiping purposes only. This is clearly not what many of the customers were expecting when they paid for some company ten years earlier, after getting assurance that the billing entity would be something benign (ie. Educational Equipment International ltd).
I know about this because the ensuing scandal made page 2 of the national newspaper.
Bottom line, paying by credit card (or giving personal info) is for retards.
That example doesn't support you. The credit card records would have been obtained from the credit card companies. Anyone who pays for whores on a credit card deserves what they get. The fact of the matter is that the prosecutors never go after the girls or the johns, they go after the agency for money laundering.
I recently represented a call girl from NY Confidentials when she appeared to testify before the grand jury. The prosecutor had no interest in the girls or the johns and gave all the witnesses immunity. They only had a hardon for Paul Bergrin who has running the place and mostly becuase he was a former federal prosecutor. The fact that he made a lot of enemies did not help. If kept quiet, the prosecutors have no interest in busting hookers, at least not in NYC.
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#229336 - 03/16/07 02:24 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
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http://www.sexwork.com/coalition/canada.htmlA brief overview of Canadian prostitution laws, for those interested.
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#229337 - 03/16/07 04:45 PM
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Porn Jesus
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i think pinup was saying my fears were unfounded about clients ending up in too much trouble and i'd say she was right although. about me thinking it's bullshit to let anyone you don't ever want to see your name associated with start a paper trail on you with. if you're associated with a hooker scandal it doesn't matter how smart you are, what you've accomplished or whether going and paying for someone to suck your dick really should be a crime or anything you can do matters. you're tainted, all people remember is "you did something bad" and you might as well have ran over an entire crosswalk of blind kids going to help the elderly while shitfaced.
don't kill hookers, but as long as hooking is illegal the guy trying to sell you an illegal service you get to treat him like he's about as entitled to ask you questions like that as some kid in washington square would be if he was brokering some weed.
if i woke up tommorow and decided jesus was telling me to kill as many hookers as i could in his name i'd never choose a girl who had someone book her and call her in as missing when i could literally find ones who were already missing from somewhere and you just picked up as drivethru.
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#229338 - 03/16/07 04:45 PM
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w0w.. whatta thread.
I for one don't care to take the time to consider how or why any of you weak lil fucks get laid, much less pass judgement on any of you for said activities.
To echoe James at a base level,you're either in the game or you're not.
Fucken Deal.
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#229339 - 03/16/07 04:51 PM
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Porn Jesus
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now that i'm thinking about it, jrv or tiger woods would be able to kill a few thousands of people if they were serial-killers. all of those guys were so incompetent, lazy or weird. tiger or jrv would kill, cleanup amd fill their scorecard out and head to the next one. no making soup out of their victims or wearing their clothes for a year or whatnot. simp probably couldn't put up huge numbers given he's already suspicious. he'd get drunk and end up returning a gagfactor video covered in blood or whatnot.
if you could fight the urge to get greedy in one place, you could follow groups of people here without permission and the authorities don't hear there's a problem from them and they don't talk to the authorities.
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#229340 - 03/16/07 04:56 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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"i have to return some videotapes"
lou, where you been? there's a whole bunch of weak cunts here for you to be laying into
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#229343 - 03/17/07 09:17 AM
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Every time I read a reference to legalizing prostitution I wonder how long it would take for some smart bastard to package and franchise it. Corporate would recruit the whores- ship them off to whore school in Kansas. Straighten out the dental and front them the tit jobs, hair dye and extensions. They'd be shipped out by the busloads to franchisees in all corners of the country.
McWhores
I've wondered why no enterprising individual (that I know of) has approached an Indian tribe to open up a chain of brothels. Indian nations are sovereign governments, and they've already profited from gambling, so why not have brothels too? It would be a category killer!
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you're tainted, all people remember is "you did something bad" and you might as well have ran over an entire crosswalk of blind kids going to help the elderly while shitfaced.
Hugh Grant didn't make out so bad for himself, did he?
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Noone could be criminally prosecuted (paying for sex is not illegal in Canada), but there were lineups in the courthouse to see the documents for gossiping purposes only. This is clearly not what many of the customers were expecting when they paid for some company ten years earlier, after getting assurance that the billing entity would be something benign (ie. Educational Equipment International ltd).
So who's at fault here - the agency or a political system that sees fit to enforce public morality?
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#229344 - 03/17/07 11:02 AM
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you're tainted, all people remember is "you did something bad" and you might as well have ran over an entire crosswalk of blind kids going to help the elderly while shitfaced.
Hugh Grant didn't make out so bad for himself, did he?
Thats not an accurate comparison. Hugh Grant is only an actor. He's no more than a pro athlete or, for that matter an organ grinders monkey. Different standards apply to minstrels than to Pastors, Judges, Doctors and Stockbrokers. That's all I have to offer here, sorry, carry on.
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#229346 - 03/22/07 01:37 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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What possible difference would it make. The debate (or this aspect of it) was about the realistic possibility of being "found out", not the historical relationship between law and morality. Furthermore, your whole question is irrelevant since the criminal charges in my real-life example related to tax evasion (which is financially motivated, not morally).
Stay with the tour.
So you don't think the illegality of prostitution in the United States, a de facto result of the link between morality and law, increases the chance of being "found out"? I do. Are you saying that all busts are related to tax evasion because of your real-life example?
It's actually not tax evasion they're nailing the agencies with these days; it's money laundering.
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#229347 - 03/22/07 10:20 PM
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Fuck...! I missed this thread... I have been fucking hookers for thirty years now...I try to fuck at least two or three a week,, But I have to admit i am slowing down a little bit... Most i have ever paid was twenty bucks,,,and probably seventy five percent i had rectal intercourse with..Condom- less of course..!!! So i would say three to four thousand hookers... 
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#229351 - 03/23/07 09:04 PM
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Demon Spawn
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It depends, El G. Was she an escort before or after you went with her? As for the stripper, probably not, unless she was one of Calvin's friends.
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