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#229286 - 03/15/07 02:42 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
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I'll let BIFF off of the hook on this one, since the thread had already veered into that territory long before he took up the cliche.
As for the "can't get it anywhere else" line, jamesn brought up some good counter-examples. And it is a fact that most users are married/in a relationship. And don't use the fallback "yes, but their wives are ugly/frigid/bad lays". No matter how attractive the woman, there is someone out there who is tired of having sex with her. This is where it becomes worth the cash payout to guarantee no strings, no jealous phone calls, no "when are you going to tell her about us!!!" conversations.
In my case, I am also just constitutionally incapable of turning down an offer of sex from a woman I've long been attracted to, even if it is going to cost me.
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#229287 - 03/15/07 02:51 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
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escort agencies have no business accruing the kind of info equifax does on me, you'd think envelopes of cash would still mean something when you want to do something illegal.
i understand hookers end up dead, but is it really ones that someone paid over 5k for in advance and met away from the wife and kids at a westin or four seasons? you can't help but realizing you're on their eyes in the sky in every part of a nice hotel save for your room. you're not bringing/leaving a body there anywhere without a neat murder-one case made against you.
those background checks are just going to ruin a lot of customer's lives when someone thinks the agency owner isn't paying enough taxes. fuck that.
What kind of a business doesn't keep records on its clients, pray tell?
This is a variant of a rant that takes place regularly on whoreboards, and to it, I say: tough shit. At all price levels, in crack-infested alleys and five-star hotels, hookers are subject to robbery, assault, and yes, death....and oh yeah, the minor inconvenience of getting arrested by undercover cops. Somebody getting outed to his wife or employer when an agency gets popped doesn't even begin to compare, and it's really his own responsibility in the first place. If one decides to fuck hookers, one runs the risk of getting caught. Don't want to get caught? Don't fuck hookers. Simple, really.
By the way - in all 50 states, save a handful of counties in Nevada, prostituting oneself is illegal. In very few is it a crime to purchase the services of a prostitute. It's a lovely double standard.
Instead of ranting about women (and some men and trannies) trying to protect themselves - and this isn't really directed at you, James - why don't men put their money where their mouths are and get involved with one of the many not-for-profit groups who are working to decriminalize prostitution?
Sorry for the pointed reply, but I'm about to start bleeding. Red wings, anyone?
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#229288 - 03/15/07 03:05 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move. This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing. 
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#229289 - 03/15/07 03:22 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
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#229290 - 03/15/07 03:28 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
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#229291 - 03/15/07 03:50 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Shouldn't you feel worse that your paying Lockwood to fuck them for you.    
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#229292 - 03/15/07 04:06 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
Loc: Neither here, nor there.
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All I'm saying is prostitutes just aren't my cup of tea. I think that the only possible reason I could invision myself getting one would be if I was completely alone. No friends or girlfriends, or any shit like that. It would be, at least for me, a desperation move.
This doesn't mean that I look down on people who do partake in escorts, different people have different reasons, so live and let live. I really think it should be legalized. What's it any business of Uncle Sam if someone decides to trade cash for services? Not to mention the money that would be saved on court costs for whores who get busted... they could put that money towards their AIM testing.
There it is again, another put down. So according to you, going to prostie is a "desperate move" and people who do have "No friends or girlfriends". You work in the industry and have absolutely nothing to do with prostitutes? Right. Man you are living in a whole other time zone of denial. PAFH denial even.
Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Shouldn't you feel worse that your paying Lockwood to fuck them for you.
Not at all! I'm all for porn man, but buying porno, and buying a chick to fuck are two very different things. Saying the two of them are one in the same is like saying that watching "Goodfellas" is going to make me a gangster. Porn's the same way... I love watching porn, but I would never be in porn.
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#229293 - 03/15/07 04:29 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Exactly, you feel ashamed and morally outraged by the thought and wish to project your disgust onto other people. Happens all the time.
If you are part of the porn industry you are involved in prostitution, plain and simple. No amount of your moralizing will change that fact.
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#229294 - 03/15/07 04:34 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 10/30/06
Posts: 3812
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Lol, dude it's not a put down, you're reading what you want to read out of it. Is this clear enough:
I would feel bad about myself if I paid a girl to fuck me.
End of muthafuckin' story. If you take that as an insult, then more power to you, but that's not how it's intended.
Exactly, you feel ashamed and morally outraged by the thought and wish to project your disgust onto other people. Happens all the time.
If you are part of the porn industry you are involved in prostitution, plain and simple. No amount of your moralizing will change that fact.
Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
Hey, does anyone else wanna kick this DEAD HORSE with me? My leg's getting tired.
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#229295 - 03/15/07 04:41 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
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Hey, does anyone else wanna kick this DEAD HORSE with me? My leg's getting tired.
I thought we were going to leave your family out of this?
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#229298 - 03/15/07 05:02 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
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i don't like giving people info in general. if someone sued me, they'd find ten grand in a checking account i buy groceries with and my car available to them before they'd start having to start dealing with an expensive, uncooperative and time-consuming bunch of little governments with very different laws from one to the next. i don't let my health insurer know if i get a sinus infection i just cough up a little more money and pay the full price for the medicine at cvs to stay out of their computers. the majority of my medical history never makes it to the point of being randomly databased and shared without notifying you someone requested it. i'm pretty happy with being as close to a ghost as someone can be while still having insurance if i get helivaced out of somewhere in the yukon.
it's not a complaint-hiring an escort is off my radar if they want to know that kind of stuff and i don't have the ability to make sure the records are destroyed as soon as the girl comes back to work alive.
if i was in the chick's shoes, i'd sure as fuck want them to know everything possible about someone hiring me.
some people obviously value the experience enough to take that risk, i don't.
anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
five years later, you've got a wife and 2 very young kids and one day some guys with badges show up at work and all of a sudden you're part of some page-6 hooker trial and scandal testifying on court tv with warren beatty. you blew it, you're chasing ambulances in some new city if you were a lawyer and your wife and kids are going to be "that hooker guy's family" forever. to each their own, i'd rather have to hunt on my own or jerk off than have to worry about it would blow up on me for years down the road.
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#229299 - 03/15/07 05:09 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here. I have no problem with people buying hookers, but I personally wouldn't.
To kick a dead horse....
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If I was ever in a position where I needed a hooker to get sex, I'd much rather blow my brains out, Private Pyle style.
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...paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
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anyone who's not hideously deformed should be able to get laid without money changing hands
Sooo, someone logged in with your account and made these statements?
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#229301 - 03/15/07 05:20 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Fucking Master
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Then yes, I am involved in a form of prostitution. However, that doesn't change the fact that I wouldn't buy a prostitute for myself to have sex with.
So you have no qualms about buying hookers for other people, but when other people do it for themselves they are somehow morally insignificant?
I'm starting to feel like a broken record here. I have no problem with people buying hookers, but I personally wouldn't.
To kick a dead horse....
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If I was ever in a position where I needed a hooker to get sex, I'd much rather blow my brains out, Private Pyle style.
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...paying for sex is pretty pathetic. Just one man's opinion.
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anyone who's not hideously deformed should be able to get laid without money changing hands
Sooo, someone logged in with your account and made these statements?
Nope, that was me! As I also stated, I would feel bad about myself if I paid a chick for sex.... I'd probably feel pathetic, and a little like Pyle.
As for the "hideously deformed" statement, it's true. Anyone who's not should be able to get laid for free. If they wanna pay for it too, that's their choice.
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#229302 - 03/15/07 05:31 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Then everything I've said is true, you do feel morally superior over a simple matter of semantics. Since your not buying the prostitute for yourself, it's completely OK, and anyone who does is less than you?
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#229303 - 03/15/07 06:02 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
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The "guy in a hockey mask" versus "redneck with a shotgun" avatars really add atmosphere to this cage match.
It's like the NCAA tournament in the regionals, when most of the double-digit seeds are long gone and only the big boys are left to "duke" it out.
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#229305 - 03/15/07 06:40 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
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Well, that is a problem. Cage matches are much sweeter when at least one of the participants is emotionally invested in them. Did I mention that VoD Guy thinks you are a ?
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#229306 - 03/15/07 07:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
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#229307 - 03/15/07 08:19 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
five years later, you've got a wife and 2 very young kids and one day some guys with badges show up at work and all of a sudden you're part of some page-6 hooker trial and scandal testifying on court tv with warren beatty. you blew it, you're chasing ambulances in some new city if you were a lawyer and your wife and kids are going to be "that hooker guy's family" forever. to each their own, i'd rather have to hunt on my own or jerk off than have to worry about it would blow up on me for years down the road.
That's paranoid hyperbole - where's a real life example of that actually happening? First, you're never obliged to give a statement without a lawyer. Anyone who doesn't keep himself informed of his 5th Amendment rights is stupid.
Second, the Blue Knights rarely press charges against hooker clients, the occasional street john sting being the exception. Why do you think the D.C. DOJ was shitting in its pants when Deborah Palfrey announced she was going to sell her phone records to the media and tried to slap her with a gag order? There is no issue of "letting an agency keeping records" here - Palfrey was in business from 1994, long before there were such things as pre-paid cell phones, or even cellphones that were smaller than the size of a phonebook. Baby Bell statements are forever.
Palfrey paid her taxes, just like Jenny Paulino. The Feds charged both of them with money laundering despite that, in order to protect the moral fiber of our great nation.
If you or any other red-blooded American men want to fuck hookers with total impunity, like I said, you should start giving your time or money to SWOP or COYOTE or one of a zillion other groups that work to decriminalize prostitution.
But somehow, I don't see that happening. As you were, thevodguy and have2cit.
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#229308 - 03/15/07 08:38 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
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so far it's pretty tight, 16 yes's to 20 no's. xpt is full of dirty hooker fuckers, clearly.
personally, i'll all for legalising prostitution- i'm pretty sure that that's the situation here in australia- but i don't think that it solves too many issues other than reducing criminal records. in terms of safety, i think as long as "dead hooker" is a universal punchline it's always going to be a dangerous industry. and health risks- look at the netherlands, where sex workers have the same legal right as any other self-employed professional, and 7% of them still have hiv. seven percent!
the problem is, i just can't see it ever getting to the stage where the majority of prostitutes are in the industry purely for economic reasons. sure, there'll always be a demand for a sex industry, and thus there'll always be an incentive for sex workers to satisfy that demand. but not all clients can spend hundreds on top class "escorts", there'll always be people who can only afford a ten dollar backseat fuck. and i think therein lies the problem- who's going to service that market? who, without a drug habit, emotional problem or financial desperation, can rationalise that their vagina is worth ten dollars?
sure, legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
in my opinion, of course.
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#229309 - 03/15/07 10:17 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/11/06
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legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
True. Also, fast food, garbage disposal, and nuclear waste decontamination will remain industries that you won't want to work in. But, the world needs ditch diggers, too. If you aren't good at anything else, at least you can feed yourself by scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Capitalism will put a price on anything, including dignity. Hell, you can put a price on human life, just measure the different wages paid to construction workers based on how high up they work, and compare that to the increased chance of being in a fatal accident.
You can put a price on dignity, and people do it every day.
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#229310 - 03/16/07 12:32 AM
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Porn Jesus
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i don't really know enough about escorts or what goes on with that world and there's still something that geeks me out about trusting people to commodify sex. i'll bow to your wisdom about it and admit that it's not something i'm bothered with but not something i really care about enough that i get fired up about legalizing on the amsterdam-model's success in avoiding crime which has nothing to do with anything other than their immigration numbers or lack thereof. countries with less than a total 5% of all minorities combined who are actually making it more difficult for anyone poor, uneducated or white to even get jerked around for the full 12-years in hopes the "undesirables" would have trouble having a constant income doing nonresident jobs and they'd be subject to deportion. rich people are really fucking easy to police, it's got nothing to do with how open the minds of the people are just how closed the borders are.
don't even try to argue the baby bell statements or anything about 1994 and madames trying to shop books though. no disgruntled receptionist at elegant angel posted 400 real names and DOB's to some forum, nobody lost their jobs because someone was cc'ed on an email they shouldn't have been. that file would have sat on a computer operated by one person and there's a good chance it wasn't networked with another computer in the same office. you've got someone answering phones sending emails to their friends half of the day. or they're computer illiterate. shit happens. someone else is famous on that list and gossip still got killed by cautious editors or lawyers. it happens in a day, nobody cares about trying to shop paris' phone messages they just fucking did it. some girl who did 3 movies probably shows the real name/dob list as one of the first results google spits back-shit moves fast, gets in random people's hands and there are people willing to put it up and it's forever. prepaid cell phones hardly make up for that. plus, there were pay phones in 1994.
again, i know nothing about escorts and don't really get worked up about the right/wrong. instead, i'll completely avoid talking about the thread topic and about amsterdam and why i don't like giving information to people when i'm trying to give them money. i've paid an auto body shop in one and five dollar bills when they asked for a second photo id then said they could only take a certified check for amounts over a whatever the amount was and refused to call the bank then wouldn't give me the car back that afternoon that i'd already left work early to do. i'd rather go back to using gold than jump through hoops to impress and prove myself to someone i'm trying to give money to.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#229312 - 03/16/07 05:16 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Happy fucknuts?
Not until your dead and cold and lay rotting in the earth.
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#229314 - 03/16/07 05:21 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Someone tried that before, but I just clawed my way out.
No, actually that was your moms cunt.
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#229316 - 03/16/07 05:41 AM
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Porn Jesus
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No, I distinctly remember seeing dead gerbils, so it had to have either been the ground, or your dad's ass. Considering I've never met your dad, I'm assuming that it was, in fact, the ground.
I have no doubt dead gerbils follow you everywhere. Even into your mothers filthy AIDS ridden cunt.
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#229318 - 03/16/07 05:52 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Hey now, leave your sister out of this... afterall, it's not my fault that she passed your AIDS onto me when she had me.
ha ha, you have AIDS, you shouldn't kiss your brother on the lips just to taste your fathers semen, should you?
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#229320 - 03/16/07 06:08 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Why not? Afterall, you never had a problem doing it before.
Sorry never met your brother, he would be the one in the pink dress.
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#229322 - 03/16/07 06:22 AM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were asking my advice! "Pink dress", lol, that's so cute! You know, I don't care what everyone else says, you're much smarter than the average lower-middle class inbred retard.
lower-middle class? that's rich coming from a pimp. you do work in the industry. So did your dad actually turn out your mom or was it you?
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#229325 - 03/16/07 08:30 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Pimp is right, motherfucker! Now pay me what you owe me or I'm gonna have to use my pimphand on you again.
Bitch please, your pimp hand is so week even your momma withholds the money, and the only thing I owe you is a return of the butt rash you gave my dog. He has been strangely subdued since your visit. 
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#229327 - 03/16/07 10:24 AM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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so far it's pretty tight, 16 yes's to 20 no's. xpt is full of dirty hooker fuckers, clearly.
personally, i'll all for legalising prostitution- i'm pretty sure that that's the situation here in australia- but i don't think that it solves too many issues other than reducing criminal records. in terms of safety, i think as long as "dead hooker" is a universal punchline it's always going to be a dangerous industry. and health risks- look at the netherlands, where sex workers have the same legal right as any other self-employed professional, and 7% of them still have hiv. seven percent!
the problem is, i just can't see it ever getting to the stage where the majority of prostitutes are in the industry purely for economic reasons. sure, there'll always be a demand for a sex industry, and thus there'll always be an incentive for sex workers to satisfy that demand. but not all clients can spend hundreds on top class "escorts", there'll always be people who can only afford a ten dollar backseat fuck. and i think therein lies the problem- who's going to service that market? who, without a drug habit, emotional problem or financial desperation, can rationalise that their vagina is worth ten dollars?
sure, legalise prostitution and spend resources trying to prevent underage prostitution, sex slavery and macro issues such as drug abuse and poverty, but understand that unless there's a massive paradigm shift in society, prostitution will remain an industry you probably don't want to be working in.
in my opinion, of course.
I am in 100% percent agreement with you. There will always be sad, desperate people on the dregs of society, and there will always be those who are delighted to prey on them.
I like to use the analogy of wearing seatbelts. Wearing a seatbelt isn't always going to save your life in a car accident, but you've got a better shot at survival. Similarly, there is not a 100% perfect solution to the problem of prostitution, but I think you can see how, for example, a legal brothel with security staff and regular health checks is a much safer environment for a prostitute to work in than a street corner or even a Hyatt. Strength in numbers.
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#229329 - 03/16/07 10:38 AM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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Every time I read a reference to legalizing prostitution I wonder how long it would take for some smart bastard to package and franchise it. Corporate would recruit the whores- ship them off to whore school in Kansas. Straighten out the dental and front them the tit jobs, hair dye and extensions. They'd be shipped out by the busloads to franchisees in all corners of the country.
McWhores
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#229330 - 03/16/07 11:21 AM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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See, now I know you're full of shit...
Is that why every time I squeeze your pointed little head shit comes oozing out your ears. Don't get mad because you got crap for brains. If you wanna blame someone, blame your mom, that's what I do every time I have to read another one of your worthless posts.
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#229333 - 03/16/07 12:48 PM
Re: i have never fucked a hooker
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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anyone considering letting an escort agency keep that kind of data for as long as they want and share it with whoever they want seems like they're not considering the probability being high the agency isn't going to last forever or protect your identity in a deal.
That's paranoid hyperbole - where's a real life example of that actually happening?
I have a real life example of exactly that thing happening.
About five years ago, a high end escort agency in Winnipeg (think way north of Chicago) got busted for tax evasion. As part of the court record, the accounting documents for the company were filed as exhibits - including credit card receipts.
The information contained the names of many prominent politicians, businesspeople, and sports personalities.
Noone could be criminally prosecuted (paying for sex is not illegal in Canada), but there were lineups in the courthouse to see the documents for gossiping purposes only. This is clearly not what many of the customers were expecting when they paid for some company ten years earlier, after getting assurance that the billing entity would be something benign (ie. Educational Equipment International ltd).
I know about this because the ensuing scandal made page 2 of the national newspaper.
Bottom line, paying by credit card (or giving personal info) is for retards.
That example doesn't support you. The credit card records would have been obtained from the credit card companies. Anyone who pays for whores on a credit card deserves what they get. The fact of the matter is that the prosecutors never go after the girls or the johns, they go after the agency for money laundering.
I recently represented a call girl from NY Confidentials when she appeared to testify before the grand jury. The prosecutor had no interest in the girls or the johns and gave all the witnesses immunity. They only had a hardon for Paul Bergrin who has running the place and mostly becuase he was a former federal prosecutor. The fact that he made a lot of enemies did not help. If kept quiet, the prosecutors have no interest in busting hookers, at least not in NYC.
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