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#227867 - 03/11/07 11:19 AM
LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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Porn Jesus
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From AdultFYI.com: "Porn Valley- I spoke to Jennifer James over the weekend and James has been contacted by LAPD relative to the Kurt Lockwood-Gram Ponante incident on her set of a couple of weeks ago. The cops apparently also want to talk to Lockwood. "This has gotten a little crazy," says James who was directing a fight in downtown LA when a movie broke out. Basically there was a shoving match involving Lockwood and journalist Ponante. And we're saying shoving match because Ponante's, now, evidently, showing bruises as evidence from the altercation. "It's escalated to the point where the law has been brought in," James continues. "I thought this whole thing was silly and no big deal but I got a call from the LAPD- she was a detective and very nice," continues James. "She wanted details of the episode and said assault and battery charges were going to be filed. She said Gram had gone in and had spoken to the police dept. He had shown them pictures of bruises and bruises on his chest which I find hard to believe considering I was standing right there. It seems hard to believe that the little shoving match could have caused anything that would have been noticeable." In the shoving match, James said Lockwood pushed Ponante and Ponante in turn threw coffee on Lockwood. "Things started coming off of Gram, like his glasses- it was stupid," continues James. "Kurt's point was that this guy had said bad things about him and he should have at least said them to his face. This was one of those situations where both people were at fault. You can't go around shoving people who say bad things about you. In this business we all have targets on our backs. On the other hand, to be able to say anything you want against anybody, to insinuate and hide it in cute words and clever analogies- that's really not fair, either. One should be responsible for what one says." In James' conversation with the police, she was told that Lockwood is going to have to make a statement and that there's supposed to be a civil case against Lockwood. "This is way beyond anything," says James. "The police also told me that Gram had indicated to them he was in the process of writing a book. Now I'm SURE there couldn't be any coincidence between all these events. The detective indicated to me that she was concerned that this whole episode was going to be a chapter. She asked me what my thoughts were. I said, there's a strong possibility of it. And that's what the police are thinking." In further conversation with police, there was an indication that Ponante had already contradicted himself in certain testimony about the incident. "They had found a couple of things where some things didn't add up," says James. "And there were concerns about credibility." James said she spoke to Lockwood and advised him that he's got to talk to the cops. Accordingly, James said she was contacted by Ponante by e-mail and told to give him a statements of events. "Basically he wants to use what I might say as a weapon," says James. "I think his political agenda is to write whatever he wants with impunity. A lot of people who make porn movies don't think that they need the press. And there's a number of people in the press who feed and use the porn people. It goes both ways. You just can't step all over them and make money off of them at the same time. But we who make these things and put our money and souls on the line, we need press as well. It's a symbiotic relationship.""
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#227868 - 03/11/07 01:08 PM
Re: LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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AC Cream Wannabe
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continues James. "Kurt's point was that this guy had said bad things about him and he should have at least said them to his face. This was one of those situations where both people were at fault."
Ummmm, no. This may work at recess for a 2nd grader, but in the adult world it does not excuse assault if your victim allegedly wrote bad things about you. It just makes it premeditated assault.
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"Basically he wants to use what I might say as a weapon," says James. "I think his political agenda is to write whatever he wants with impunity."
What a radical political agenda. If the founding fathers had wanted us to be able to write whatever we want with impunity, they surely would have said something about it in the Bill or Rights or somewhere.
I don't know if it has ever been established that Gram actually used the "F" word with reference to Kurt. But even if he did, Kurt is, in this context, what he has always wanted to be: a public figure. This means that it is only libel if it is known to be a falsehood. One does not even need to prove that the printed claim is true, only that it is consistent with their public persona.
Dragging everyone into court in order to prove whether one person called the other a fag, and whether the other person was then justified in assaulting them, complete with showings of "Put Your Finger in my Ass #4" as evidence is just what porn needs to prove that it really is the "adult" industry.
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#227869 - 03/11/07 01:23 PM
Re: LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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Porn Jesus
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In summary, she likes to fuck Kurt up the ass.
She witnessed the fight, but did she hear this guy call Kurt a fag? And, so what if he did. You can't assault him.
Be sure you the others involved in the Kurt cover up get your stories straight. You'll be deposed separately for the civil case, and any decent lawyer will eat you alive, you stupid cunt.
And FOR SURE a LAPD detective just blurted out that the complainant had inconsistencies in his story. Tell you what there's an easy way to undermine this Gram guy's credibility: Post the "fag" comment. Text or video. If there were even a "hint" of this, that bastard Luke would have posted it WAAAAAAAAAAAAY back [and somehow worked Holly into it].
Windsock, a cash PLAN!! Go to Cali, call Kurt "fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag, fag ....". Sue him and settle for the car payments.
I hope this guy costs Kurt $1000s in legal bill, criminal & civil. Court appearances will certainly cut into his porn-making schedule/earnings.
Face it, Kurt. You're a fag, faggot.
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#227870 - 03/11/07 01:28 PM
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ponante probably fucked up his chances of any decisive victory by gleefully pouring hot coffee on kurt a few times
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#227871 - 03/11/07 01:37 PM
Re: LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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AC Cream Wannabe
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Yeah, I thought that the casual way he mentioned the coffee-throwing in his post-incident discussion was not a good idea. "I decided not to hit him back, but settled for throwing coffee on him. Surprisingly, this did not calm him down, but instead seemed to enrage him further!?"
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#227872 - 03/11/07 02:14 PM
Re: LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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Porn Jesus
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At least this goes to show that if you want to be part of a civilized society, you have to follow society's rules.
The insistence of so many people on this production that it was all just nothing still amazes me. Jennifer James has done herself absolutely no good whatsoever in PR terms with her little speech to Gene. Claiming that Ponante wants to write "whatever he wants with impunity" is just a load of horse puckey.
Gram simply doesn't feature gossip on his site. He's one of the straightest, funniest writers in the industry. If James had a clue about this business, she'd be aware of that. She would also know that he's far more popular with most companies because of that; he doesn't just print rumors or gossip. It's not his market. And with Fleshbot, that's a far larger market than she perhaps realizes.
Regardless of the legal outcome, it's high time someone took a stand and just said, "No! That is not acceptable behavior."
Full marks to Gram for not being cowed by a fucking porn director and her crew into silence.
Jennifer, please remember your main professional aim in life is male ejaculation. It's your buyers who are important, and you court them through people like Gram, Luke, Gene and the wider adult press like the web, skin mags etc.. Alienating them is just a bad, bad idea.
In a perfect world, I'd like to see Fishbein's take on this (yes, I know he's not universally popular, but...). If this industry is ever to achieve public acceptability or shield itself from the government, the perceived 'leaders' need to address this sort of behavior, drug abuse and the crooks and hang them out to dry.
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#227873 - 03/11/07 11:16 PM
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Registered: 02/11/07
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And her insistance that Gram called Skirt a fag is also amazing. How many people, on XPT and beyond, have done searches of "Lockwood" and "Fag" and come up empty. It boggles the mind.
And Gram e-mailing her? I've been looking for e-mail addresses for her and Egoist. You know, just some friendly business advice about how many buyers she's gonna lose as a result of this incident.
I really don't think LAPD is going to do anything about this. Even if they did, all a court would do is sentence Skirt to anger management, which would be wasted on him. Medication is what that faggot needs. Either Lithium or Depakote, whith possibly some Paxil and/or Rispidal as boosters. That's the only thing that's gonna set him right.
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#227874 - 03/12/07 03:18 AM
Re: LAPD want to talk to Kurt
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Judge: So let me see if I've got this straight here...this entire altercation took place because the defendant alleges that Mr. Ponanate called him a fag on his website. Gram's lawyer: Your Honour, at no time has my client used the word 'fag' to refer to Mr. Lockwood on his website. Kurt's lawyer: Not the specific term, no, but my client feels he has implied it in so many words. Gram's lawyer: Your Honour, we would like to submit video and photographic evidence as well as signed depositions from Mr. Lockwood's co-workers that he does indeed like to have things rammed up his ass. I'd say that's pretty faggy behaviour...wouldn't you agree? Judge: Case closed! I also find Mr.Lockwood to be in contempt of court for refusing to wear a shirt in my courtroom!
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