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#226668 - 03/05/07 07:27 PM
Do porn stars feel shame?
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 01/23/07
Posts: 32
Loc: Woodland Hills, CA
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what bothers me is that none of these porn gossip writers can imagine that porn can just be another job: pays the bills, makes you more than flipping burgers, you don't have to work long ass hours and you don't have to see the same people every day.
It pisses me off big time that I have to be categorized with the usual crack whore picture they have in mind when they think porn actress. I go to work, show up there, do my thing, go home and collect my pay check, pay my bills and fall asleep on the couch watching TV in the night. I like this business, I love the people and I'm happy to have the chance to do this.
NO, I do NOT feel ashamed. I life my life, go to work and just try to be the best person I can for myself, my family and my friends.
Let me ask you: are you ashamed? why are you not writing for a political magazine or a real newspaper? do you have a picture perfect life and a "respectable" job? Stop judging porn stars, obviously you are obsessed with them plus you make a living writing about us (at least I hope it pays off for you in one way or the other)
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#226669 - 03/05/07 07:40 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 02/11/07
Posts: 3083
Loc: cleanup
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So... I guess retirement's out of the picture then, huh?
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#226670 - 03/05/07 07:41 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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Until I see a picture of Katja Kassin next to a pc screen with the xpt forums visible or at least a picture of Monstar fisting her ass while she holds a sign that reads "Guapo has no game" as proof I'm not buying it. Sorry.
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#226673 - 03/05/07 08:40 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 1557
Loc: New York
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what bothers me is that none of these porn gossip writers can imagine that porn can just be another job: pays the bills, makes you more than flipping burgers, you don't have to work long ass hours and you don't have to see the same people every day.
It pisses me off big time that I have to be categorized with the usual crack whore picture they have in mind when they think porn actress. I go to work, show up there, do my thing, go home and collect my pay check, pay my bills and fall asleep on the couch watching TV in the night. I like this business, I love the people and I'm happy to have the chance to do this.
NO, I do NOT feel ashamed. I life my life, go to work and just try to be the best person I can for myself, my family and my friends.
Let me ask you: are you ashamed? why are you not writing for a political magazine or a real newspaper? do you have a picture perfect life and a "respectable" job? Stop judging porn stars, obviously you are obsessed with them plus you make a living writing about us (at least I hope it pays off for you in one way or the other)
Anyone with even a smidgen of psychological training will tell you that sex workers, such has adult performers or escorts, have to emotionally disassociate themselves from the sex act due to the fact they are having sex with dozens of different partners a week. Some disassociate due to psychological issues where others develop it to deal with their situation. Essentially psychologists will tell you that sex workers simply lack a conscience.
Its also interesting to compare pornstars to Dr. Robert Hare's profile of the typical psychopath:
glib and superficial charm
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
need for stimulation
pathological lying
cunning and manipulativeness
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioral controls
sexual promiscuity
early behavior problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility for own actions
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release
criminal versatility (attraction to criminal activity)
Female psychopaths are incredibly rare and research on them is based on too small a sample to be reliable.
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#226674 - 03/05/07 08:41 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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nah, I'm not gonna do that. I'm not making a fool out of myself holding stupid ass pictures for you to make fun of.
So, let me get this straight. You are willing to get fucked in the ass, dp'ed, gagged, atm, atogm, creampied, slapped and cummed on, all permanently preserved on DVD, but you feel it's too embarrassing to snap a picture of you in front of your pc monitor?
Of course, I hope it is you but my "shenanigans" meter is redlining
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#226676 - 03/05/07 09:05 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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Hey King- I think its Katja herself.
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#226678 - 03/05/07 09:21 PM
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Porn Icon
Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
Loc: The Dirty: 480
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I think its Katja herself.
that would be good news
Indeed. Stick around Katja. 
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#226679 - 03/05/07 09:37 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
Posts: 2362
Loc: St. Louis
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I think it might be Katja. Some of the syntax she uses is not that of a native English speaker and reads a bit German, at least from what little I remember of my college German.
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#226680 - 03/05/07 10:17 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 01/23/07
Posts: 32
Loc: Woodland Hills, CA
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well, that's a shame because I feel pretty normal. but I'm sure you know better...
Porn is for sure something not everyone can handle or accept and I don't expect them to but there are others who do just fine. My motivation is not self esteem issues or sexual molestation in my childhood or shit like that, my motivation is good pay. I think I'm doing something I'm good at and that's a good thing.
Maybe it's just that I'm European and you damn Americans are too fucking weird about everything that has to do with sex but I don't see why it's bad making a living by performing in sex movies for an audience. I just don't feel bad for it, sorry...
yeah and I do perform anal, dp and whatnot scenes but that doesn't mean I jump every time somebody snaps their finger at me. So I'm not gonna take stupid ass pictures holding signs, I'm not your groupie. Why don't you all make a sign for me first saying how much you love Katja? and if you can seriously make me believe you don't feel stupid I will go ahead and make a sign for you
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Anyone with even a smidgen of psychological training will tell you that sex workers, such has adult performers or escorts, have to emotionally disassociate themselves from the sex act due to the fact they are having sex with dozens of different partners a week. Some disassociate due to psychological issues where others develop it to deal with their situation. Essentially psychologists will tell you that sex workers simply lack a conscience.
Its also interesting to compare pornstars to Dr. Robert Hare's profile of the typical psychopath:
glib and superficial charm
grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self
need for stimulation
pathological lying
cunning and manipulativeness
lack of remorse or guilt
shallow affect(superficial emotional responsiveness)
callousness and lack of empathy
parasitic lifestyle
poor behavioral controls
sexual promiscuity
early behavior problems
lack of realistic long-term goals
impulsivity
irresponsibility
failure to accept responsibility for own actions
many short-term marital relationships
juvenile delinquency
revocation of conditional release
criminal versatility (attraction to criminal activity)
Female psychopaths are incredibly rare and research on them is based on too small a sample to be reliable.
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#226681 - 03/05/07 10:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
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well, that's a shame because I feel pretty normal. but I'm sure you know better...
Porn is for sure something not everyone can handle or accept and I don't expect them to but there are others who do just fine. My motivation is not self esteem issues or sexual molestation in my childhood or shit like that, my motivation is good pay. I think I'm doing something I'm good at and that's a good thing.
Maybe it's just that I'm European and you damn Americans are too fucking weird about everything that has to do with sex but I don't see why it's bad making a living by performing in sex movies for an audience. I just don't feel bad for it, sorry...
yeah and I do perform anal, dp and whatnot scenes but that doesn't mean I jump every time somebody snaps their finger at me. So I'm not gonna take stupid ass pictures holding signs, I'm not your groupie. Why don't you all make a sign for me first saying how much you love Katja? and if you can seriously make me believe you don't feel stupid I will go ahead and make a sign for you
Okay King, I'm back on the fence now. 
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#226682 - 03/05/07 11:28 PM
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Registered: 02/25/07
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... I'm not buying it. Sorry.
King, no need to apologize. As if anyone cares whether you're buying it.
Katja, they believe a woman is somehow degraded by sex. Presumably, their belief stems their own sexual inadequacies; i.e., some guy who's bad in bed eventually realizes that he's a negative experience for women, and as a defense mechanism, he fools himself into believing that all men are as bad as him. So he concludes that sex degrades women, and finally he ends up as a gossip-columnist or an xpt regular ranting about porn performers to emphasize his own sexual inferiority and self-hatred.
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Its also interesting to compare pornstars to Dr. Robert Hare's profile of the typical psychopath....
More interesting to compare xpt regulars with profiles of typical alcoholics with some form of sexual impotency or another.
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#226683 - 03/06/07 12:06 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/28/04
Posts: 4450
Loc: The Planet Houston
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actually I'm going to send a text message to Monstar that I'm posting here now. Ask him if he got it...
i done got it. it's really miss katja. 
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#226684 - 03/06/07 12:10 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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awesome
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#226686 - 03/06/07 12:24 AM
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Registered: 02/25/07
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Again, King: As if anyone cares what you guess. I wasn't generalizing about all xpt members, just the ones who admit they believe sex is shameful, like you. Thank you for your comically defensive response, and for affirming my theory.
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#226688 - 03/06/07 12:28 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/09/06
Posts: 1248
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I'm in an alt id guessin mood, so I'm gonna have a go. Obviously educated. Possibly female. Well spoken. I'm going with Cassandra, mainly because it's more fun around here when she posts and I think she likes stirring shit up every once in a while.
Careful King. Last time I implied a poster MAY have been Cassandra she flipped her shit and immediately emailed Jeff to use him as the middle man, telling him to "shut his whore up" and insisted she was over porn, XPT, and that I needed to get over her. Clearly someone so quick to regonize a comment in here about herself wants nothing to do with you degenerates anymore.
With that said. Hay Cassandra, how's it going? 
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#226690 - 03/06/07 12:36 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9195
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Careful King.
I have a backup alt id guess I'll use if I start getting heat from the xpt upper management. 
So do I. 
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#226691 - 03/06/07 12:38 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 01/09/06
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Careful King.
I have a backup alt id guess I'll use if I start getting heat from the xpt upper management.
I'm not so much worried about that as I'd just hate to see a hex be put on your dick rendering it useless to jack off to pictures of Quinne.. I'm pretty sure she knows how to do that sort of thing.
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#226692 - 03/06/07 01:22 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 11/23/06
Posts: 323
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Why don't you all make a sign for me first saying how much you love Katja? and if you can seriously make me believe you don't feel stupid I will go ahead and make a sign for you
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#226693 - 03/06/07 01:22 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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what bothers me is that none of these porn gossip writers can imagine that porn can just be another job: pays the bills, makes you more than flipping burgers, you don't have to work long ass hours and you don't have to see the same people every day.
It pisses me off big time that I have to be categorized with the usual crack whore picture they have in mind when they think porn actress. I go to work, show up there, do my thing, go home and collect my pay check, pay my bills and fall asleep on the couch watching TV in the night. I like this business, I love the people and I'm happy to have the chance to do this.
NO, I do NOT feel ashamed. I life my life, go to work and just try to be the best person I can for myself, my family and my friends.
Let me ask you: are you ashamed? why are you not writing for a political magazine or a real newspaper? do you have a picture perfect life and a "respectable" job? Stop judging porn stars, obviously you are obsessed with them plus you make a living writing about us (at least I hope it pays off for you in one way or the other)
i'm inclined to discount this merely by saying "you're german", but in spirit i agree somewhat with the previous poster who mention psychology. except for the comparisons with psychopaths, which apart from being way too in vogue to be correct forgets one key characteristic of psychopaths, a lack of emotion, something most pornstars have in abundance.
any rule has it's exceptions, you katja may be completely unaffected by your career choice, yet if you look at the antics of your fellow co-workers- ranging from chronic drug use, petty crime, absenteeism, bizarre antics, emotional trauma, suicide, violence- it's pretty clear that people in porn are struggling with their inner demons, though it's tough to say what role shame is playing.
porn bloggers are just as fucked up, clearly.
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#226695 - 03/06/07 02:56 AM
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Registered: 02/25/07
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any rule has it's exceptions, you katja may be completely unaffected by your career choice, yet if you look at the antics of your fellow co-workers- ranging from chronic drug use, petty crime, absenteeism, bizarre antics, emotional trauma, suicide, violence- it's pretty clear that people in porn are struggling with their inner demons, though it's tough to say what role shame is playing.
Correlation doesn't imply causation. Maybe drug-abuse and the need for easy money leads some to porn-work, but you've yet to argue that porn causes inner-struggles or vice.
How do you account for the high incidence of chronic drug/alcohol use, petty crime, absenteeism, bizarre antics, emotional trauma, suicide, and violence among the XPT members with high post-counts?
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#226696 - 03/06/07 03:54 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
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any rule has it's exceptions, you katja may be completely unaffected by your career choice, yet if you look at the antics of your fellow co-workers- ranging from chronic drug use, petty crime, absenteeism, bizarre antics, emotional trauma, suicide, violence- it's pretty clear that people in porn are struggling with their inner demons, though it's tough to say what role shame is playing.
Correlation doesn't imply causation. Maybe drug-abuse and the need for easy money leads some to porn-work, but you've yet to argue that porn causes inner-struggles or vice.
quite true. i hate it when people post correlation as causation, but my point was that a lot of people in porn seem to be fucked up- whether it's what brought them to the industry or developed as a result of it is largely irrelevant.
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How do you account for the high incidence of chronic drug/alcohol use, petty crime, absenteeism, bizarre antics, emotional trauma, suicide, and violence among the XPT members with high post-counts?
i've posted many times that a lot of people on xpt are clearly fucked up. occasionally these people are also the best posters. this is the entertainment that is xpt.
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#226699 - 03/06/07 11:00 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 06/05/05
Posts: 4468
Loc: Great America
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the loser shelley luben in lib Quote:
Shelley Lubben: 'Women do not enjoy making porn movies'
She writes in her new book:
Many believe the widespread fairytale that women enjoy making porn movies but in reality there are no happy endings for the women of porn. Women do NOT enjoy making porn movies and a closer behind-the-scenes look will show you several reasons why.
In the world of hardcore sex production, an average day on the porn set for a porn actress is a long and tedious process. Women are told to come in at 8 am for makeup but it’s only to make certain porn actresses arrive on time to work. Porn stars have a terrible habit of arriving late because they’re often hung over from drugs or alcohol from the night before.
After make up, porn actresses usually wait around long hours until it’s their turn to do their scene. Some scenes take an hour and some take several hours to film. It really depends if the male actor in the first scene could “perform†or not. It also depends if female actresses have to stop the clock because they can’t handle the pain of a hardcore sex scene.
While waiting around for long hours, jaded porn performers are bored and usually end up in the rest rooms with bottles of alcohol and a few lines of speed or outside in their cars for a heroin fix or gathered in the back yard with other actors to smoke marijuana. For me, I usually ended up in the back yard of some lavish mansion in Malibu with a bottle of Jack Daniels in my hand and a group of male porn actors standing nearby offering me hits of marijuana or lines of speed.
Other porn stars agree with me. Jenna Presley says in an interview with porn journalist [on lukeisback.com], “I think that 90% of the business does drugs or alcohol but maybe 70% have a problem. I include pot as a drug. I know people who come on set stoned and they can’t perform. A drug problem to me is when it affects your work life.â€
To add to the mind-numbing process, women are never able to experience sexual pleasure during the making of a porn movie because of the continuous cutting during sex scenes. In the background the director constantly yells, “cut†and the flow of action is interrupted in order to get a better shot, adjust lighting or to wipe up bodily fluids. Repeatedly pornographers stop the scenes and some times ask actors to “freeze†in position during very hardcore sex acts, which causes great physical and emotional pain for porn actresses.
I speak from personal experience when I say to be in the middle of a hardcore sex act with several actors at the same time and told to “freeze†in position for several minutes while lighting or cameras are adjusted is extremely painful and degrading. It’s also very humiliating when scenes are stopped in order to wipe up bodily fluids such as semen, feces and blood.Despite the fact that women do not enjoy making porn movies, they continue to lie to their fans and proudly insist they enjoy making porn movies. Of course they do. They get paid hundreds and thousands of dollars to lie because this is their profession. Porn stars are paid professional liars who know how to “act†and they do it well. In fact, because porn stars spend a great deal time in front of the camera and never step out of character, they usually have more acting abilities than mainstream Hollywood actors.
I used to brag endlessly to fans and pornographers about my extreme “Italian†sex drive and how I loved making porn movies. I would go on and on about how I needed more and more to fulfill my insatiable appetite. I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Lying is the native language of porn stars because they can’t afford to tell you the truth. Not only would it ruin the fantasy for their fans but more importantly, it would ruin the amount of their paychecks. Don’t believe porn actresses when they proudly proclaim they enjoy making porn movies.
They’re ACTING.
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#226700 - 03/06/07 11:12 AM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 01/10/06
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In fact, because porn stars spend a great deal time in front of the camera and never step out of character, they usually have more acting abilities than mainstream Hollywood actors.
This part just kills me. 
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#226701 - 03/06/07 11:14 AM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Loc: St. Louis
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Maybe it's just that I'm European and you damn Americans are too fucking weird about everything that has to do with sex ....
Katja, has it occurred to you that most of your income is earned in the United States, which has the largest porn industry and is probably the largest porn market in the world (per capita expenditures on porn)? I would tell you not to bite the hand that feeds you, but that is pretty typical behavior for a Kraut. As Churchill said, "The Hun are always either at your throat or at your feet."
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#226702 - 03/06/07 12:46 PM
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Maybe it's just that I'm European and you damn Americans are too fucking weird about everything that has to do with sex ....
Katja, has it occurred to you that most of your income is earned in the United States, which has the largest porn industry and is probably the largest porn market in the world (per capita expenditures on porn)? I would tell you not to bite the hand that feeds you....
NitneLiun, has it occurred to you that she's correct about Americans? And that anyone who'd deny it is probably ignorant and poor, in no position to feed anyone.
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#226703 - 03/06/07 12:49 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/17/06
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Maybe it's just that I'm European and you damn Americans are too fucking weird about everything that has to do with sex ....
Katja, has it occurred to you that most of your income is earned in the United States, which has the largest porn industry and is probably the largest porn market in the world (per capita expenditures on porn)? I would tell you not to bite the hand that feeds you....
NitneLiun, has it occurred to you that she's correct about Americans? And that anyone who'd deny it is probably ignorant and poor, in no position to feed anyone.
Kind of like you?
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#226704 - 03/06/07 12:59 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 09/05/06
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NitneLiun, has it occurred to you that she's correct about Americans? And that anyone who'd deny it is probably ignorant and poor, in no position to feed anyone.
 Please go here for oversimplified anti-American rants. Thanks!
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#226706 - 03/06/07 01:07 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
Posts: 2362
Loc: St. Louis
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NitneLiun, has it occurred to you that she's correct about Americans? And that anyone who'd deny it is probably ignorant and poor, in no position to feed anyone.
I'm neither ignorant nor poor. In fact, I'm pretty well educated and fairly well to do by most standards. I just find it very hypocritical for Katja to make what is presumably a decent living in the enormous American porn industry which caters to an enormous American porn market while complaining that Americans are weird (inhibited and ashamed) about sex.
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#226707 - 03/06/07 01:45 PM
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Please go here for oversimplified anti-American rants. Thanks!
And here for jingoistic whining --> . <--
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#226708 - 03/06/07 01:56 PM
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I just find it very hypocritical for Katja to make what is presumably a decent living in the enormous American porn industry which caters to an enormous American porn market while complaining that Americans are weird (inhibited and ashamed) about sex.
I'm failing to find any hypocrisy in that. In the contest between America and Europe to see which side is most afraid of bare female breasts, America is #1. The American FCC wins the award for most fear of nudity and sex. America wins the award for most fear of 17 year olds having anything to do with sex, and the most fear that abortion-pills may encourage sin. Americans are inclined to call one a psychopath if she sunbathes topless; less so in Europe.
It's no coincidence that America is also #1 in its demand for porn. If Americans weren't messed up in the head about sex, they'd spend less time watching it and more time having it.
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#226713 - 03/06/07 02:54 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/19/04
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>Let me ask you: are you ashamed? why are you not writing for a political magazine or a real newspaper? do you have a picture perfect life and a "respectable" job? Stop judging porn stars, obviously you are obsessed with them plus you make a living writing about us (at least I hope it pays off for you in one way or the other)>
Is a garbage collector obsessed with garbage or is he just earning a living?
If the LA Times offered me a job, I'd take it. If Steven Spielberg asked you to star in his next movie, you'd take it. We're both doing the best we can.
I don't know any porn writers who would not quit the industry in a heart beat to take a job with The LA Times. I don't know any porn actresses who wouldn't quit porn in a heartbeat to take a job in Hollywood.
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#226715 - 03/06/07 03:14 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I'm neither ignorant nor poor. In fact, I'm pretty well educated and fairly well to do by most standards. I just find it very hypocritical for Katja to make what is presumably a decent living in the enormous American porn industry which caters to an enormous American porn market while complaining that Americans are weird (inhibited and ashamed) about sex.
You would have an easier time explaining calculus to your dog. Liberal douche bags are incapable of understanding patriotism, just like a whore is incapable of understanding gratitude.
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#226716 - 03/06/07 03:21 PM
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papercut, why do bare female breasts make you so angry? Quote:
I don't know any porn actresses who wouldn't quit porn in a heartbeat to take a job in Hollywood.
Hollywood performers don't get to have sex while they work. Why would a porn actress want to move from sex to mundane Hollywood work?
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#226717 - 03/06/07 03:28 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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papercut, why do bare female breasts make you so angry?
For the same reason Tom Selleck's mustache drives you crazy. I like tits, you like Tom Selleck's ass in short shorts.
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#226718 - 03/06/07 04:07 PM
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#226720 - 03/06/07 04:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
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correct me if i'm wrong, but don't the upper-echelon mainstream actresses make 15 million dollars a flick? Quote:
papercut, why do bare female breasts make you so angry?
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I don't know any porn actresses who wouldn't quit porn in a heartbeat to take a job in Hollywood.
Hollywood performers don't get to have sex while they work. Why would a porn actress want to move from sex to mundane Hollywood work?
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#226721 - 03/06/07 05:03 PM
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correct me if i'm wrong, but don't the upper-echelon mainstream actresses make 15 million dollars a flick?
could be, but I doubt every porn actress would give up a $1000/hour porn-job for a $1000/hour Hollywood-job. If the money were the same for both jobs, I know some girls who'd go to Chatsworth for sex, and other girls who'd move to Hollywood for absolution from breast-fearful people like papercut, have2cits, and the king.
On the other hand, the porn-commentators aren't getting paid to have sex, an activity normal people enjoy more than muckraking. To be fair, not all porn-commentary is yellow. I respect porn-commentators for occasionally having helped prevent HIV outbreaks, and for educating naive people about the unfortunate future in store for anyone who makes a habit of hard drugs. But constuctive commentary is rare, so Katja's question about the self-esteem of career porn-commentators is worthwhile.
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#226722 - 03/06/07 05:08 PM
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The more I read this thread, the more it reminds me of the bit in Poltergeist where the kid falls into the swimming pool full of dead Native Americans and the rotten corpses are grasping, reaching and pulling the kid under. I think this is a suitable analogy for the porn industry in 2007. I should also add
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#226723 - 03/06/07 05:19 PM
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Porn Jesus
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.....but I doubt every porn actress would give up a $1000/hour porn-job for a $1000/hour Hollywood-job. If the money were the same for both jobs, I know some girls who'd go to Chatsworth for sex, and other girls who'd move to Hollywood for absolution from breast-fearful people like papercut, have2cits, and the king.....
Wow, just wow! I've met some self deluded douche bags in my time, but you could very well be Emperor of them all.
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#226724 - 03/06/07 06:03 PM
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... I don't know any porn actresses who wouldn't quit porn in a heartbeat to take a job in Hollywood.
Oh god! Fuck Hollywood in their eyeholes!!!
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#226727 - 03/06/07 08:27 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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Anyone with even a smidgen of psychological training will tell you that sex workers, such has adult performers or escorts, have to emotionally disassociate themselves from the sex act due to the fact they are having sex with dozens of different partners a week. Some disassociate due to psychological issues where others develop it to deal with their situation. Essentially psychologists will tell you that sex workers simply lack a conscience.
You conflate sociopathy with disassociation, an understandable rookie armchair psychologist mistake. Go back to Wikipedia.
It's really funny that the "Whores are so-fucked up!" contingent is so blissfully unaware their own hypocrisy. If you devote your waking hours to jerking off to porn incessantly, and talk about porn on a message board incessantly when you're not jerking off, you needn't look further than your furthest mirror for an example of serious psychological issues. Yes, the majority of sex workers are fucked up, and you like them that way, so stop being a yeast-infected pussy by pretending otherwise.
And last, what's so wrong with saying Americans are fucked up about sex? You don't see Europeans regularly pressing obscenity charges against porn producers, do you - why's that?
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#226728 - 03/06/07 08:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Let's simplify this argument a bit, shall we?
Now, I ask all you sane people out there -- would you feel ashamed if one, many or all of these cretins had been inside of you? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Game over, man! 
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#226729 - 03/06/07 08:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
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For the record, Chicago isn't Cassandra. Just so ya know.
And the only time I felt shame when I was a porn performer was when my hair looked horrible.
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#226730 - 03/06/07 08:45 PM
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I've always argued that porn would be - or at least could be, depending on who you're working with - much less exploitative than, say, flipping burgers at McD's. I mean, have you ever worked in one of those places? Or being in sales. I mean, really - a dedicated salesman will kiss your ass, figuratively, to make that sale. Is there something inherently more unpleasant about LITERALLY kissing ass for a paycheck? Seems more honest, to me.
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#226731 - 03/06/07 08:52 PM
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Porn Jesus
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i'm really only interested in this thread if pinupmutant posts pictures of herself.
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#226733 - 03/06/07 09:14 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
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oh shit, now I have to kiss ass every American person just because I make a living here? I make the money and don't think it's easy money to get your ass fucked every day... Not only are you weird about everything that has to do with sex you are also very arrogant. (and I mean you personally) I always thought it's typically German to consider yourself better than others but obviously there's a lot of it going on here too
If you knew me better you'd know why I mainly left Germany and it wasn't just because America is so great, is was more because Germany sucks so bad
and if what I said was a rant, then I don't know. I said Americans are weird about sex and that's an observation resulting in me living in Europe and in America. I could make you a whole long list about differences between Europeans and Americans. For example I always thought Americans show better hospitality and I always was welcome every place I went all across the country. People welcome you with open arms where Germans don't bother to talk to you if they don't know you...
I love American sense of costumer service where they treat you like shit in Germany even if you end up spending your money there.
American bank system is stuck in the stone ages, in Germany I was able to wire money internationally without having to fill out long ass forms and paying a huge fee...
Americans have a better sense of political correctness. They are used to the fact that there are many different people from different backgrounds living in the country. If you're not like everyone else in Germany you're just done.
just some of the things. I could come up with more...
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NitneLiun, has it occurred to you that she's correct about Americans? And that anyone who'd deny it is probably ignorant and poor, in no position to feed anyone.
I'm neither ignorant nor poor. In fact, I'm pretty well educated and fairly well to do by most standards. I just find it very hypocritical for Katja to make what is presumably a decent living in the enormous American porn industry which caters to an enormous American porn market while complaining that Americans are weird (inhibited and ashamed) about sex.
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#226736 - 03/06/07 09:53 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I hope you're aware that your thing says "XPT loves Katja's donkey"... if you haven't realized it yet, internet translation tools are shit and they always translate "ass" with the German word for "donkey". The German word for ass is "Arsch" and "Esel" means donkey
Katja just approved herself...referenced my favorite nunsploitation title, perhaps accidentally, I don't care.
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#226737 - 03/06/07 09:53 PM
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oh so I bite the hand that feeds me, huh? what happened to the famous american freedom of speech? maybe I came here for it too? I'm going to continue to say whatever I want.
I hope you continue to post whatever you wish. You can do that here at xpt, as you are learning. You just have to remember it works both ways.
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And maybe Americans spend so much money on porn because they just can't have nude beaches and swingers clubs everywhere like in Europe.
I think you hit the nail on the head there. Without saying I think America's or Europes way is better, I think you make a great point.
Do you think european mens fascination with scat is due to lack of adequate toilet facilities?
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#226738 - 03/06/07 10:05 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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I hope you're aware that your thing says "XPT loves Katja's donkey"... if you haven't realized it yet, internet translation tools are shit and they always translate "ass" with the German word for "donkey". The German word for ass is "Arsch" and "Esel" means donkey
Well, yes, actually. That was the idea behind the picture and a reference to your take-no-bullshit entrance to XPT.
Translators may not be perfect, neither is my typing, but it wasn't that difficult to type 'asshole' which got me 'Arsch'. It would have been easy enough to post pix of your gaping asshole with that title but nowhere near as fun or creative. But I am more than happy to keep it simple and stick to Whore/Faggot/Tranny/Basement/Lackwood jokes. 
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#226739 - 03/06/07 10:05 PM
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I hope you continue to post whatever you wish. You can do that here at xpt, as you are learning. You just have to remember....
... that xpt mods will ban you if you say something they dislike.
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#226740 - 03/06/07 10:06 PM
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oh so I bite the hand that feeds me, huh?
Well, yes.
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what happened to the famous american freedom of speech?
Nothing happened to it. I believe it is still in the U.S. Constitution. Criticism of your speech is not the same as denying your right to free speech. You should understand that. It is not a difficult concept to grasp. When I am criticizing your speech, I am merely exercising my freedom of speech. Again, that shouldn't be too difficult to grasp.
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maybe I came here for it too? I'm going to continue to say whatever I want.
Go right ahead. But speech in a public forum is fair game for public criticism. Deal with it.
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And maybe Americans spend so much money on porn because they just can't have nude beaches and swingers clubs everywhere like in Europe.
I live in a red state city in middle America and we have more swingers clubs than I can count and at least two nudist resorts within an hours drive. If we had beaches here, I'm sure we'd have nude beaches as well.
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#226741 - 03/06/07 10:10 PM
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I hope you continue to post whatever you wish. You can do that here at xpt, as you are learning. You just have to remember....
... that xpt mods will ban you if you say something they dislike.
You think so. pa4h? Didn't Alana Evans expose you as a fraud months ago?
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#226742 - 03/06/07 10:12 PM
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Porn Jesus
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I live at the ocean on the east coast and we have nude beaches. As far as swinger's clubs, it's called Atlantic City.
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#226743 - 03/06/07 10:28 PM
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Didn't Alana Evans expose you as a fraud months ago?
She exposed Gavin Marx: http://www.ainews.com/story/10349/
and you expose yourself as an ignorant gossip too incompetent to get his facts straight.
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#226744 - 03/06/07 10:29 PM
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oh so I bite the hand that feeds me, huh?
Well, yes.
Calling something "weird" is hardly biting anyone. Katja made an observation about Americans, not the industry. Even it was directed toward that, are you honestly saying you've only had nice things to say about your place of employment?
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#226746 - 03/06/07 10:58 PM
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... chicago, an obvious troll....
What did chicago write that upset you so badly?
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#226749 - 03/06/07 11:13 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Welcome to Katja
Glad to see you posting outside the Guapo link. I enjoy your work.
Do porn stars feel shame?
If they do, they are likely not going to survive well. Even after it's over, the films are still out there. Those that will prevail are those like Gia, Gen and obviously Katja who can take the whole deal in stride.
Americans and nudity
America was formed in part by the Puritans, and it seems we will never overcome them. Banning something - !ANYTHING! - only serves to increase the desire for it.
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#226751 - 03/06/07 11:16 PM
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set designer = pa4h 
So was "chicago", apparently.
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#226753 - 03/06/07 11:33 PM
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He's just a failed porn actor that sets up fake shoots with real porn talent.
Where'd you get that idea? Same place you got the idea that Katja isn't Katja, and that chicago is Cassandra?
You can't get your facts straight, you know you suck in bed so you pretend all sex degrades women, and you resent Europe because you know if you saw your children topless you couldn't help yourself from raping them again.
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#226759 - 03/07/07 12:12 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Someone said it earlier in one of their posts, that the debauched jaded selfish male pervert "jerker-offers" that comprise XPT's population WANT our porn stars/escorts/hookers/sex surrogates to be psychologically fucked up. I totally agree 100% with that....Nothing, and I mean NOTHING kills it faster for me than paying an escort a lot of money only to find out she is totally normal and simply "OK" with accepting my splooge in her mouth. Fuck that, I want this woman to a Nutty Slutty-stark raving Nymphomaniac-reaching for the pills-pissed off at Dad for what he did on her 15th birthday when mom was passed out from too much wine-emotionally needy-with a penchant for really fucked up dirty talk. Like I said earlier before in another thread, I am TURNED ON by the fact that Mia Rose "allegedly"  is a nympho-METH-iac ... It's boring any other way...
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#226761 - 03/07/07 01:05 AM
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Nude beaches in Germany are different. Everyone goes to nude beaches, the whole family with their kids. Nudity is something normal in Europe, nobody cares. Here in America you have to be over 18 to get in, they ID you and if you even dare to show up in a thong bikini at a community pool you're getting thrown out. If you tan topless at a beach you get a ticket.
In Europe they show tits in every second commercial on TV no matter if they advertise tooth paste or liquor or whatever. In the US people freak out because Janet Jackson showed a nipple. Like a nipple is gonna kill somebody. People in Europe think that treating Janet's nipple like a scandal is retarded. Eminem is showing is bare ass on a German TV show and nobody thinks it's a big deal.
I know there are swingers clubs in America but it's not like you go there to meet your next door neighbors for a beer like it is in Germany.
and you can't get an alcoholic beverage in a nude strip club over here...
I'm not biting the hand that feeds me. I could be the most ignorant fucking dumb ass whore on the planet, it wouldn't matter. The weird thing about porn is that you can be a total pain in the ass but people still hire you. Doesn't mean I take advantage of that but if you think it will hurt me because I make some comment on some message board somewhere on the internet, you take this way too seriously.
I remember here in my town recently there was an item in the local paper talking about a european family visiting the local pool and everyone being a bit shocked when they all came out of the change rooms and got into the pool naked :P
Is it true that over in germany if its past children's bedtime they even show porn on general TV?! A friend said as long as its past children's viewing times they will just show anything but I can't imagine they'd actually show porn on general channels!
I remember watching commentary to the movie Hostel and Quentin Tarantino was talking about nudity in general US films versus eurpoean films and how its done differently - in US films nudity usually occurs during the sex scene wheras in european films during the sex scene they are likely to be fully clothed but then they show you full nudity when they are going to the toilet the next morning :P
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#226765 - 03/07/07 12:52 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 07/09/06
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Calling something "weird" is hardly biting anyone. Katja made an observation about Americans, not the industry. Even it was directed toward that, are you honestly saying you've only had nice things to say about your place of employment?
Ceara, the reference to the hand that feeds her concerned the porn-buying public, not the industry itself. She made a rather sweeping generalization toward American attitudes about sex that I think are entirely inaccurate outside the religious right.
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#226767 - 03/07/07 06:08 PM
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Bukkake Boy
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i'm really only interested in this thread if pinupmutant posts pictures of herself.
I already posted a (real) picture of my ass in a drunken, narcissistic moment a couple of months ago. If you want to see more of me, you'll just have to go to www.hairyplaces.com.
Why are dudes pm-ing me asking for pictures or my cryspace profile? I'm 30, for Christ's sake. Well into MILF territory. Except I loathe children.
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#226768 - 03/07/07 06:17 PM
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link please. i'm bored. this is what nago looks like, if you were curious. Quote:
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i'm really only interested in this thread if pinupmutant posts pictures of herself.
I already posted a (real) picture of my ass in a drunken, narcissistic moment a couple of months ago. If you want to see more of me, you'll just have to go to www.hairyplaces.com.
Why are dudes pm-ing me asking for pictures or my cryspace profile? I'm 30, for Christ's sake. Well into MILF territory. Except I loathe children.
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#226769 - 03/07/07 06:34 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
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So why do porn-commentators so often suggest that sex degrades women?
Because it does, regardless of the continent on which it is produced and viewed.
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How do you account for the FCC's extreme limitations on nudity? The FCC is part of America's national government, not just some fringe element. America will call you obscene and put you in prison for doing things tolerated by European governments, so her statements apply to America as a whole, not just some faction.
The FCC is afraid of the political power of the religious right and its ability to mobilize politically. Remember, the FCC is part of the executive branch of government. The current chief executive of the United States owes his election largely to the religious right and does not want to do anything to piss it off.
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#226771 - 03/07/07 07:34 PM
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NitneLiun, hasn't the U.S. federal government as a whole restricted the communication of nudity/sex more than its European counterparts, over the long-term, not just under the current administration? This thing about tits being okay on European tv but scandalous in the U.S. has been going on for decades.
If we can't keep our own religious-extremists in line, then we cannot expect foreigners to consider us as anything but a religiously extreme country.
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So why do porn-commentators so often suggest that sex degrades women?
Because it does, regardless of the continent on which it is produced and viewed.
How does sex degrade women? Does it degrade men too? What are you talking about?
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#226772 - 03/07/07 08:02 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Hi Katja,
Just curious as if you ever did porn in Germany? And what do you think of the "GGG" stuff?
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#226773 - 03/07/07 08:05 PM
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Human Garbage
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Anyone with even a smidgen of psychological training will tell you that sex workers, such has adult performers or escorts, have to emotionally disassociate themselves from the sex act due to the fact they are having sex with dozens of different partners a week. Some disassociate due to psychological issues where others develop it to deal with their situation. Essentially psychologists will tell you that sex workers simply lack a conscience.
You conflate psychopathy with disassociation, an understandable rookie armchair psychologist mistake. Go back to Wikipedia.
It's really funny that the "Whores are so-fucked up!" contingent is so blissfully unaware their own hypocrisy. If you devote your waking hours to jerking off to porn incessantly, and talk about porn on a message board incessantly when you're not jerking off, you needn't look further than your furthest mirror for an example of serious psychological issues. Yes, the majority of sex workers are fucked up, and you like them that way, so stop being a yeast-infected pussy by pretending otherwise.
And last, what's so wrong with saying Americans are fucked up about sex? You don't see Europeans regularly pressing obscenity charges against porn producers, do you - why's that?
I didn't conflate dissociation with psychopathology, although I could see how you would interpret it that way. The psychopath comment was just an observation that if I were looking for a female psychopath, porn valley is the first place I'd look.
I don't think its mutually exclusive to say that performers learn dissociation skills (to cope) or that fans have their own voids that they are filling. I think both are equally true.
I do think its unfortunate that people are saying "whores are fucked up". Their just different. If you really want to figure out how people tick, you cannot judge them and must look at them as if they were some alien culture that you were trying to understand.
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#226776 - 03/08/07 12:07 PM
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I never did any movies in Germany. I would have but not for 200 bucks for a gang bang. They are way too cheap over there
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#226777 - 03/08/07 12:16 PM
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whores lie
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#226778 - 03/08/07 12:17 PM
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I never did any movies in Germany. I would have but not for 200 bucks for a gang bang. They are way too cheap over there
maybe a german company buy the rights and translated it
spain make that
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#226779 - 03/08/07 01:03 PM
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Porn Jesus
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El G could be right
And TECHNICALLY: It's from LustUndLiebe.AT. That's Austria - which except for the Anschluß - is not Germany.
Verstehen!!
or as my Viennese grandfather would have written it:
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#226788 - 03/09/07 06:54 PM
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Doesn't the "x" on that kids hand signify "straight edge" like Dana DeArmond style? No drugs, booze, etc. Of course it could just be a mark of admission to the concert.
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#226789 - 03/09/07 07:40 PM
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A "Straight Edge" porn girl?!?
Contridiction in terms.
Straight Edge are about no booze, no drugs, no promiscuous sex!
Yeah, doing porn(even w/out the alcohol and drugs) would be a major no-no.(according to a sXe acquaintance, even watching porn or going to a strip club is anti-sXe)
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#226790 - 03/09/07 07:45 PM
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the loser shelley luben in lib
And this whore's contribution to the industry was...what? I don't recall her doing enough during her time in porn to really stretch her cakehole & make noise.
My point is, that religious Jesus-preaching cunt should speak for herself.
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#226792 - 03/09/07 07:52 PM
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Damn it Moronboy, you distracted me. So, does the "x" signify straight edge or not?
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#226793 - 03/09/07 07:58 PM
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An X in magic marker on the hand can is the symbol for straight-edge, but is also used to mark people at a show/concert(usually under 21 kids to signify they cannot drink if alcohol is served in the venue).
could be either, or both.
edit: Really had to fight to urge to go "Fatman" on this post and post just slightly related stories, rants, etc. along with the answer here.
Edited by Moronboy?!? (03/09/07 08:03 PM)
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#226794 - 03/09/07 08:06 PM
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thank you, sir
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#226796 - 03/09/07 09:48 PM
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Nude beaches in Germany are different. Everyone goes to nude beaches, the whole family with their kids. Nudity is something normal in Europe, nobody cares. Here in America you have to be over 18 to get in, they ID you and if you even dare to show up in a thong bikini at a community pool you're getting thrown out. If you tan topless at a beach you get a ticket.
In Europe they show tits in every second commercial on TV no matter if they advertise tooth paste or liquor or whatever. In the US people freak out because Janet Jackson showed a nipple. Like a nipple is gonna kill somebody. People in Europe think that treating Janet's nipple like a scandal is retarded. Eminem is showing is bare ass on a German TV show and nobody thinks it's a big deal.
I know there are swingers clubs in America but it's not like you go there to meet your next door neighbors for a beer like it is in Germany.
and you can't get an alcoholic beverage in a nude strip club over here...
Unfortunately Katja dear, there's far too large a variety of people here in the US. Too many people try to please EVERYONE, and they're "doing for the best interest of them". The faggots who demand political correctness in this country are the same people who need their boo-boo kissed over dumb shit ~ like the stigma they created on nudity & sex that you describe. Or worse yet, when someone says "shit" in public.
As have2cit referenced, the "liberal" label for instance. Whatever. I don't think of myself as one or the other, rather both. Anyone who isn't split down the line in the big picture (lib-con) has bigger issues than what they predictably side with / bitch about.
FWIW, I'll be damned if I'm a patriot by any means, esp. after all the restrictions that have been placed on us in the "name of Homeland Security" or "for the children". Just because we still have some freedoms, there's no room to bitch about what we once had? Fuck them both with a 6' piece of conduit!
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Like I said earlier before in another thread, I am TURNED ON by the fact that Mia Rose "allegedly" is a nympho-METH-iac ...
It's boring any other way...
And the fact that many (most?) of them lie about it all to hide the truth is what makes it even more special.
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She made a rather sweeping generalization toward American attitudes about sex that I think are entirely inaccurate outside the religious right.
Or the majority of very large, low-wage paying, Midwestern states, such as Kansas, Oklahoma, and Iowa, amongst others. Some might even call them conservative, but I'd like to think that even some of those like their smut.
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#226799 - 03/11/07 08:29 AM
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I do think its unfortunate that people are saying "whores are fucked up". Their just different. If you really want to figure out how people tick, you cannot judge them and must look at them as if they were some alien culture that you were trying to understand.
Oh. So you're a sensitive flower who looks deep inside the souls of sex workers to try to understand what makes them tick. I see.
Psychopaths are interested in power, and there's simply not enough of it for the average porn star. So while I think you'll find plenty of producers and agents in the industry who meet the definition of psychopath, you'll find few female sociopaths in the San Fernando Valley.
If there's one DSM-IV personality disorder that is over-represented in the female pornstar pool, I would hazard a guess that it's histrionic personality disorder, characterized by:
1. is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
2. interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
3. displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
4. consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
5. has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
6. shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
7. is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
8. considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are.
Then there are narcissist pornstars like Sasha Grey, and then that rare 3-5% who simply enjoy what they do and thrive in the industry.
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#226800 - 03/11/07 09:38 AM
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my guess is you'd want to throw in bpd on the axis-dos disorders and if you wanted to be half-funny/half-serious mild retardation. but bpd would probably be my choice as the #1 personality disorder in pornoland.
obviously there's plenty of axis-1 shit(aka lockwood the bipolar) as well.
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#226802 - 03/12/07 12:49 AM
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adhd is kinda fun, i've enjoyed it for years.
prettyu sure i contracted it after sex with brandon
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#226803 - 03/12/07 06:18 AM
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kk, this is totally for my own silly grand-unifying theories and i won't respond to the answers period. not negatively, not at all, i'm just curious and if you haven't noticed i haven't given you shit in ages, as promised.
is there any chance you hail from the former east germany? that's my main one and it's neither good nor bad-it just seems that porn seems to be less-aversive as a career choice to those from the former cold-bloc countries. the obvious guess is it's got something to do with half a century free of the vatican and something to do with the sudden economic shift to a signifigantly more free/opp-laden reality.
i've got the standard lukeisbackish questions like when were you first exposed to pornography?
what was your familia's socioeconomic status/caste like growing up?
did you feel limited by what seemed to be your career options at any point and did it factor into your decision to enter adult stuff?
what were your parent's attitudes towards sexuality? formal religion?
the white elephant question is obviously the presence of any kind of covert or overt abuse(emotional, spiritual, physical, sexual, intellectual, etc) from 0-17 in your past.
i'm not luke and it's not fair to demand an answer here so it's up to you.
i'm not going to be a dick if you choose to answer any or all of them, i'm just curious.
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#226804 - 03/13/07 12:10 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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my guess is you'd want to throw in bpd on the axis-dos disorders and if you wanted to be half-funny/half-serious mild retardation. but bpd would probably be my choice as the #1 personality disorder in pornoland.
Couldn't agree more about the prevalence of borderlines in porn as well as mainstream Hollywood. If any of this comes from your sister, she's a smart shrink.
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#226808 - 03/13/07 05:16 PM
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Porn Jesus
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 I truly believe a person has to try and find the good in any situation or set of circumstances. As for me, I am eternally grateful that I will long be dead before I ever reach the point/age where I look like that. That is a seriously fucked up, ugly-ass dude....
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#226809 - 03/13/07 06:36 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Now Katka...do you feel shame for hooking although you have once denounced it not so long ago?
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