It is a different world post 1/31

So there wasn't ONE member of the Boston PD or FD who recognized the Aqua Teen Moonite, and said "umm, Chief. I think I can explain this...?"

Boston: downgraded to Terre Haute pop-culture awareness level.

And re "24", since the show-internal "news" is always a rinky-dink Fox News broadcast, shouldn't it be interrupted with breaking Natalie Holloway updates?

And shouldn't the characters watching this "news" snort derisively, "where did they get this crap?!?! Drudge Report?!? And why are they blaming Michael Moore for the suitcase nuke?!?"

Hell; that's why a watch "Heroes" instead because it's more realistic...

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I was hoping Nancy Grace would interview those two hipster fags that put up the ads thereby causing them to commit suicide. One can hope anyway.

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with all due respect ...are we to blame these marketing dudes because Boston lost it's shit over a clever marketing campaign for an awesome show? Is that the vibe in Rightwingistan these days? I havent paid much attention as I have been watching the Congressional Hearings on Iraq on CSPAN.


America under the reign of the BUSHCORP scaremongers.

Henry Waxman: An ugly dude with a Beautiful tenacity

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are we to blame these marketing dudes because Boston lost it's shit over a clever marketing campaign for an awesome show?


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yes

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than the terrorists have won.

You realize that this represents over 60% of the population right?

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old and deluded? yeah.

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It's cool... The tide of history has turned against the right wing republicons...even Rush Limbo admitted he was carrying water for a useless cause. I don't need or mean to bring this divisiness to XPT anymore. Just remember tho if we end up doing Iran (which it is increasingly looking like) you may end up getting drafted. Are you willing to go that far to support your ideals?



Obama/Edwards '08 with Wesley Clark as Secretary of Defense.



(you arent as fun to argue with as Phlog was cuz you are so likeable)

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War with Iran will never happen during GW's tenure,imo, unless they attack first of course

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remember the Gulf of Tonkin...we are building up big time in the Persian Gulf...Plus everything this administration is saying smacks heavily of 2003 before the Iraq Invasion. Bush/cheney knows that they won't be allowed to go into Iran unless it is tied with Iraq...Tune in tomorrow as they make their case. (literally) Doing Iran will mean $5+ gasoline but it is part of the Neocons plan.

Dude you can still join! They need folks...most are doing their 3rd rotation there...Man up!!!

MAN UP BITCH!!!!

I wouldnt do shit for this crazy administration...You need to pay more attention to the Iraq hearings my friend.

If they intend to do Iran then it would HAVE to happen because our current military is stretched to breaking.

Fixing the "facts" around the premise:

"CIA doubts didn't deter Feith's team
Intelligence agencies disagreed with many of its prewar findings.
By Greg Miller and Julian E. Barnes, Times Staff Writers
February 10, 2007

WASHINGTON — As the Bush administration began assembling its case for war, analysts across the U.S. intelligence community were disturbed by the report of a secretive Pentagon team that concluded Iraq had significant ties to Al Qaeda.

Analysts from the CIA and other agencies "disagreed with more than 50%" of 26 findings the Pentagon team laid out in a controversial paper, according to testimony Friday from Thomas F. Gimble, acting inspector general of the Pentagon.

The dueling groups sat down at CIA headquarters in late August 2002 to try to work out their differences. But while the CIA agreed to minor modifications in some of its own reports, Gimble said, the Pentagon unit was utterly unbowed.

"They didn't make the changes that were talked about in that August 20th meeting," Gimble said, and instead went on to present their deeply flawed findings to senior officials at the White House.

The work of that special Pentagon unit — which was run by former Undersecretary of Defense Douglas J. Feith — is one of the lingering symbols of the intelligence failures leading up to the war in Iraq.

The Bush administration's primary justification for invading Iraq was always its assertion that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction. But Iraq's supposed ties to Al Qaeda — and therefore its connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks — were an important secondary argument, and one that resonated with many Americans in the lead-up to the war with Iraq.

The CIA and many other intelligence agencies were wrong in their assessments of Iraq's weapons programs. But the agency was always deeply skeptical about the ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

Most of the evidence that Feith's Office of Special Plans cited in making its case for significant collaboration between Baghdad and Al Qaeda has crumbled under postwar scrutiny. The Senate Intelligence Committee has concluded that Saddam Hussein was so wary of the terrorist network that he barred anyone in his government from dealing with Al Qaeda.

Although the Pentagon Inspector General's report released Friday did not address the accuracy of such assessments, it documented the unusual efforts by Defense Department policymakers to bypass regular intelligence channels and influence officials at the highest level of government.

Feith's work was of critical importance to Vice President Dick Cheney, who once referred to the Pentagon team's conclusions as the "best source" for understanding the relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda.

The activities of Feith's group weren't illegal, Gimble concluded. But they were, "in our opinion, inappropriate, given that the intelligence assessments were [presented as] intelligence products and did not clearly show the variance with the consensus of the intelligence community."

The Pentagon team touted a series of claims that have not survived postwar review. Among them was the allegation that Mohammed Atta, the presumed ringleader of the Sept. 11 hijackers, had met with an Iraqi agent in Prague before the attacks.

A critical question raised by the inspector general's report is whether Feith and his office were just critiquing CIA analysis, or were creating their own intelligence assessment, a role that is supposed to be left to the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) noted Friday that Cheney has referred to Feith's work as an "assessment," suggesting it was a formal intelligence document. But Feith maintained in interviews he was not creating an intelligence "product," but was just checking the work of the CIA.

Laurence H. Silberman, a semiretired U.S. appeals court judge and co-chairman of a presidential commission on Iraq's weapons, said it is appropriate to question intelligence.

"Policymakers, whether they are in Defense, State, the White House or Congress, are absolutely entitled to question the intelligence community, look over the material and come up with their own views," he said.

Feith's work had the blessing of his boss, former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. The operation was set up at the behest of then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul D. Wolfowitz with approval from Rumsfeld, Gimble noted. By most accounts, those three officials had distrust, if not disdain, for the work of the CIA and other intelligence agencies.

But Robert M. Gates, the new secretary of Defense and former CIA director, said that groups outside the CIA and other chartered intelligence agencies should not be involved in freelance analysis.

"Based on my whole career, I believe all intelligence activities need to be carried on by the established institutions, where there is appropriate oversight," he told reporters traveling with him in Europe for meetings on security.

Gimble provided new details on the chain of events leading from the creation of the Feith team, through a series of briefings it made for senior officials and culminating in a presentation before deputies in the National Security Council at the White House.

The initial instruction to search for links between Iraq and Al Qaeda came from Wolfowitz in January 2002, Gimble said.

By that July, Feith had assembled a group of analysts detailed from other agencies to draft a document outlining evidence that the officials thought other agencies had ignored.

The team presented its findings to Rumsfeld on Aug. 8. Rumsfeld found it so compelling that he urged Feith to arrange a briefing for then-CIA Director George J. Tenet at the CIA. In the meantime, the team's paper began to circulate among analysts at other agencies who took issue with more than half of its contents.

"There were like 26 points," in the Feith team's paper, Gimble said. "And essentially [experts at other agencies] disagreed with more than 50% of it, and either agreed or partially agreed with the remainder."

When the team briefed Tenet and other senior CIA officials on Aug. 15, the audience was polite but unimpressed. Tenet described the meeting as "useful," Gimble said, but "in our interviews with him he later said that he only said that it was 'useful' because he didn't agree with it and he was just trying to, you know, nicely end the meeting."

That encounter led to the "roundtable" meeting at the agency five days later where CIA experts urged the Pentagon unit to at least include footnotes acknowledging the long list of disagreements.

Nevertheless, the Pentagon team pressed on.

P.J. Crowley, a retired Air Force colonel and a senior fellow at the Center of American Progress, said that the intelligence peddled by Feith tainted the public dialogue.

"They weren't creating intelligence, but they were assembling the pieces to create a rationale for war," Crowley said. "Their production was discredited, but they had the desired effect. The little pieces ended up infecting the process.""

satanic head of Fox News admits to propoghanda role

Finally, big business gets a break:

"News Corp. plans Fox Business Channel this fall

By David Lieberman, USA TODAY

NEW YORK — News Corp. (NWS) made it official on Thursday: It will take on NBC Universal's CNBC this fall by launching a companion to Fox News, called — for now, at least — the Fox Business Channel.

The venture will be run by Fox News CEO Roger Ailes, who ran CNBC from 1993 to 1996. Another CNBC veteran, Neil Cavuto, who runs Fox's business news unit, will oversee content on the new channel.

"We have long considered the business television market to be underserved," News Corp. CEO Rupert Murdoch said in a statement. "I look forward to introducing new competition and a new voice to the business news arena."

He added, at a media conference here Thursday, that the service would be more sympathetic than CNBC is to business. "They leap on every scandal," he said."

Here's the answer to all your FoxNews problems. Although for people that hate FoxNews so much I don't know why you know so much about it and follow it so regularly. The CNN left wing echo chamber gets too loud sometimes I guess.

Insulate yourself from opposing opinions

all the cable news sux but Faux News is completely farcical and usually the viewers of it (altho they are diminishing rapidly) ONLY watch fox...

dude ...just watch CSPAN on any weekday morning...it's called Washington Journal and listen to the difference between the Republican and the Democratic callers and you will see the difference. You will see who is brainwashed by the echo chamber!

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just watch CSPAN on any weekday morning

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FatMan's video news watching:

1. CSPAN.
2. BBC News.
3. Keith Olbermann (really for the comedy).
4. Jon Stewart (really for the news).
5. ESPN's "The SportsReporters" [Lupica loses it on Bush alot].

When NO ONE would say nary a word against "the village idiot" and his klan, Stewart was the only source of reason.