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#221265 - 02/24/07 01:20 PM
Re: Is It OK To Portray Rape In Porn?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 10/21/06
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flattery will get you (almost) everywhere, burg 
No anal, then Burg. 
too bad my ass (and the rest of me) is spoken for 
Yeah, well i dont want to "speak" to your ass, I'm just content to be your friend and secretly lust after you from afar....I feel compelled to tell the XPT community that in addition to being really fucking cool, Robbye has an awesome Rack too!  If I were her child I would breast feed until i was 16 years old. Seriously, she blows away many porn chicks in that area....
i'd like to thank....dr. garth fisher, for the implants and the surgery. my ex-husband, for pressuring me to get my implants, b/c he was fascinated by them. and my parents, who with the proper genes, gave me great shape to fill with silicone in the effort to reach prono perfection boobaliciousness...
now where the fuck can i go find a bra to fit this shit?????
One thing for sure Trinity.. you'll never have to worry about anyone wanting to rape you.. In fact I caught that video with you and Penny Flame while you brag about cheating on your husband and then being asked to leave so that the photographers could take solo pictures of the cute girl on the red carpet. 
it's not really my job to be cute. and i agree, my behavior on the red carpet was fucked up. looking back at it, i wince and repeatedly kick myself. like i do my marriage. and most of my appearances in public. but, while it's providing winners like **YOU** with entertainment, then i am satisfied.
and yes, penny flame is way cuter than me. which is why she fucks on film, and i stay behind closed doors with my boyfriend.
who is happy with me the way i am. i don't need your approval.
Its a good thing its not your job to be cute because Donald would have said "YOUR FIRED". and you should have been embarassed for your obnoxious behaviour on the red carpet. It is obvious your boyfriend doesnt pay enough attention to you or you wouldnt be trying so hard to get it hanging out on the redcarpet with porn sluts. By the way all I have read is how sober you claim to be and it was painfully obvious that you were so drunk and lame. Why lie about your sobriety?
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#221266 - 02/24/07 03:29 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/06/06
Posts: 173
Loc: Behind the Camera, CA
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hey, i'm going to go shave my head tonight, wanna follow? after, i'm getting some tatts.
i am not so sober. it's a process i haven't quite mastered. how am i "lying" while drinking in everyone's face at a convention? it's NOT SO MUCH a lie that i have tried many times in the past to stop.
yes, i keep trying. and, since you ask...the boyfriend is in iraq. the reason for the jump is him leaving. and now, let's grab onto my addictions and run with them, they are great entertainment. like me on the red carpet you seem to be obsessed with. aren't there hotter messes to think about?
i know i look like shit, feel like shit...but how does it actually feel to BE SHIT?
you tell me.
oh, and it's "YOU'RE FIRED." i can handle proper spelling, even drunk.
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#221267 - 02/24/07 09:28 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 10/27/05
Posts: 402
Loc: Philly. PA
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...the boyfriend is in iraq...
Brazzleflakes???  jk
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#221269 - 02/25/07 10:27 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 52
Loc: Mid America
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Given that they show rape - as well as murder - in regular films and on TV even, the real question isn't whether it's okay to show rape, but whether it's okay to be entertained by it. In fact, given that the rapes in movies like "The Accused" are a part of the unfolding drama and thus a part of our entertainment in some sense, the question is even more pointed - is it acceptable to derive sexual pleasure from portrayals of rape?
The whole thing treads a fine, but possibly imaginary, line. We can experience catharsis from watching it and having sympathy for the victim, but we can't be aroused by it? I guess it's because we assume arousal has something to do with approval - if something arouses us, we want it to happen, or so the reasoning goes. So, if we're turned on by a rape scene, we must approve of or want rape to occur on some level... or so goes the argument against such things.
I'm not so sure. I think there's a place for channeling our dark impulses in a healthy fashion. We're not robots, we're animals - deep down in the creepy, unevolved portions of our brains, we WANT to brain the rival male, grab the attractive mate, and have our way with her. A real part of the human mind WANTS to do things that our society classes as "evil" on some level. But we know we can't. And we don't "really" want to, not on a conscious level. Should we be so skittish about relieving the subconscious tension in a way that doesn't hurt anyone? Enh... it's hard to say, but I'm inclined toward "why not?"
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#221270 - 02/25/07 11:25 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 11/04/06
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Interesting, but you're forgetting one important thing: context. The rape in The Accused is the catalyst which drives the story.
Willie's post is about rape in porn, where the rape is in itself supposed to be arousing. I don't think most rapes portrayed in mainstream releases are generally intended to arouse the audience sexually.
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#221271 - 02/25/07 04:21 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 02/14/07
Posts: 52
Loc: Mid America
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Conky - Exactly what I was driving at; I apologize if I wasn't clear. The point is, while the rape in the Accused is the catalyst that drives the story, it's not just something that occurs offscreen. The rape scene itself is meant to have dramatic tension, is meant to elicit *something* from us as viewers. Clearly not *pleasure*, of course, not in a sexual sense, but there IS a kind of "pleasure" or "enjoyment" from watching a well acted, dramatic scene, isn't there? There is certainly a context in which the question, "Did you think the rape scene from the Accused was good?" is neither offensive nor surprising. I think it WAS a good scene, in as much as the acting and the direction were dead on. Scenes in movies that are difficult to watch for reasons of the content they portray are often impossible not to watch for the way in which it is portrayed. It's possible to have an intellectual, even an aesthetic, appreciation for a scene that depicts a horrible act.
But it appears to cross a line when we allow ourselves a more visceral enjoyment of it. Is it because rape is sexually charged to begin with? I know the line for a long time has been that rape is a power thing, not a sex thing, but there's a lot of dissenting scholarship out there that points out there's a lot of ways to establish dominance over a victim and that while rape may be ALSO about power, it cannot be accurately understood unless viewed as a sexual act as well. So maybe the *sexual* enjoyment of a rape scene is objectionable because it's the *sexual* nature of the act that is itself so disturbing. I mean, forcing someone to the ground and preventing them from moving or escaping is a crime, but a much, much lesser one than rape. The addition of the sexual element defines the crime. Is the idea that only a rapist - or potential rapist - could find rape arousing?
If that's the objection, I think it's clearly wrong. Lots of people - male and female - have rape fantasies and extremely few of them actually ever rape anyone. Other than that, I'm not sure what the exact objection is to taking pleasure in fantasy rape scenes.
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Pornography is supposed to arouse sexual desires. If pornography is a crime, when will they arrest makers of perfume? ~Richard Fleischer
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#221272 - 02/25/07 04:34 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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I'd be really interested to see your source for this. More than 50% of men pay for sex? No way. Most sources I've seen put it about 10%. Of course this is a huge number, but it's still an unrepresentative minority.
Because it's an illegal business, and because men seldom accurately self-report when polled on this matter, there's just no way to know. My best guess would be somewhere in the avenue of 20-25%.
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I think the popularity of the GFE is because the better an actress the girl is, the more it takes the client's mind off the fakeness of the whole situation.
That's one (very cynical) explanation for it and it could be correct. I think it's more to do with loneliness and lack of affection. There's a lot of that going around, particularly in marriages.
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But as you said originally, they also want porno-style fucking - something you don't get from a typical girlfriend. Do you believe they'd be just the same with a civilian girlfriend? Don't you think that the fact that they are paying for it has some influence on this? The fact that they can enact the fantasy with an escort, and she will pretend to like it?
Depends on what you mean by "porno-style fucking". Plenty of girlfriends like anal sex and facials. It's wives who don't. I used to believe that any male inconsiderate enough to shove a dry finger into the ass of an escort and then try to force it in her mouth probably doesn't have the social skills to get a girlfriend, but I've had very physically attractive clients do exactly that to me, so you may be correct.
But I'm the wrong person to ask. I was a whore who expected to be fucked well AND get paid for it. And it worked out sometimes, but increasingly (and I attribute this to porn shaping mens' sexual expectations) it did not. I still find it amazing that so many men don't care to find out what turns their partners on; they want to do it the way they want to do it, and want validation for it. Good sex just doesn't work that way.
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Eh? Your perspective makes you one of the more interesting poster here.
I thought going off-topic was bad, but from what's happened in this thread, when in Rome...
I liked "Baise-Moi" BTW. It's a pity Karen Launcaume offed herself.
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#221273 - 02/25/07 06:22 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 02/14/07
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I still find it amazing that so many men don't care to find out what turns their partners on; they want to do it the way they want to do it, and want validation for it. Good sex just doesn't work that way.
From what I've been told by the women gracious enough to sleep with me, that's hardly restricted to men who visit paid sex workers. It's apparently the norm for men everywhere. But then again, when you really think about, there are women who are the same way. It may not be as apparent, since men are generally easier to please, but I've known more than one woman who had one position she liked, didn't do oral, only did it with the lights off, etc etc, with no attempt to find out whether I any of this stuff was an issue for my enjoyment or whether, indeed, her management style itself was a problem. If the insight gleaned from these episodes is that "people are generally selfish shits," well... I think that's been well established. And hardly unique to their sexual behavior.
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Pornography is supposed to arouse sexual desires. If pornography is a crime, when will they arrest makers of perfume? ~Richard Fleischer
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#221274 - 02/26/07 03:40 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 05/31/04
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japanese love their rape porn, otaku rape porn freaks..
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#221276 - 02/27/07 10:19 AM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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But then again, when you really think about, there are women who are the same way. It may not be as apparent, since men are generally easier to please, but I've known more than one woman who had one position she liked, didn't do oral, only did it with the lights off, etc etc, with no attempt to find out whether I any of this stuff was an issue for my enjoyment or whether, indeed, her management style itself was a problem. If the insight gleaned from these episodes is that "people are generally selfish shits," well... I think that's been well established. And hardly unique to their sexual behavior.
Yes, but us broads don't have an entire industry of warm bodies available to satisfy our sexual whims.
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#221279 - 04/02/07 01:07 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/23/07
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Compare that with a critically acclaimed independent movie called Irreversible. In it, Monica Belluci's character is brutally raped in a continuous-shot scene that lasts a full eight minutes. And when I say brutally, I mean totally and utterly horrifying, to the point where I still have a hard time walking in an underpass late at night.
I'm sure there are people who would and have jerk(ed) off to Monica Belluci getting assraped until she bleeds and then goes into a coma when her face is pulverized until it caves in. But people call Irreversible "art" while they denounce Extreme Associates as obscenity. Why? Is it the viewer's reaction that makes the difference, or is it the creator's intent?
Cool! I fount the clip
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1098798803&fr=yfp-t-501  
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#221280 - 04/02/07 09:57 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/05/07
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this has been around for years.
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#221282 - 05/10/08 09:38 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/10/08
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Rape was an everyday part of life during the Roman Empire, and also during the Franco - Prussian War (1870)....FYI. 
and lets not forget the Rape of Nanking
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#221283 - 05/10/08 11:04 AM
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all women once they get out of the "biz" say that they were "raped" at one time or the other......and for most they already had a history of sexual abuse leading up to being where they are today...in porn.....so whats the fucking diff?
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#221284 - 05/11/08 12:22 PM
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#221285 - 05/20/08 02:01 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 03/29/08
Posts: 1991
Loc: colorado
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lots of girls have rape fantasies
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