In the article, "Adult Film Scare Could Alter Rules", Duke Floored adds an opinion at the end of the piece which I believe is incorrect. First, I'll post the article, and then I'll explain what I disagree with, and why...

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Adult film scare could alter rules
by Duke Floored (send email to Duke Floored)

By Beth Barrett and Gregory J. Wilcox

Dr. Peter Kerndt, director of the sexually transmitted disease program for the Los Angeles County Department of Health Services, said regulations won't drive "the big boys" underground.

"You don't live in fear of what could be driven underground."

Kerndt said officials take the outbreak seriously and see unsafe practices in the adult film industry as posing health dangers to the general population.

"We're concerned about this, because it has the potential, unchecked, to spread rapidly to their partners apart from their industry partners," he said.

Kerndt said a state-county task force has drafted a plan that would make condom use mandatory by forcing production companies to comply with a California Occupational Safety and Health Administration injury and illness prevention plan or face closure.

"We want to bring this industry into the mainstream by putting it under the regulations that currently exist for Cal-OSHA. This would be a model for the rest of the country."

There are about 200 adult film producers -- most of them in the Valley -- and about 75 percent of them have stopped making films, including industry giant Vivid Entertainment LLC in Van Nuys.

No one knows how long the stoppage will last or what its financial impact will be.

"As of now we have stopped making movies, for at least a week, perhaps two, as AIM puts together the list of people who have been affected by the HIV scare," company co-chief executive officer Steven Hirsch said Friday.

"We feel that with condoms and mandatory testing people will be safe on our set."

Duke Floored says: If LA County mandates condom-use in porn, porn production will move out of LA, out of CA, out of the USA if necessary. The demand for bareback sex is unquenchable."
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...Okay, so here's my take on all that.

Mandatory Condom Use in adult entertainment, if made a legal prerequisite by COSHA, would and should, in my opinion, become adopted by a national OSHA committee within seconds of implementation in Los Angeles.

If Condom Use in adult entertainment was mandated nationally, which it would be, would productions then outside the country then thrive?

Yes, they could.

So, what would prevent non-condom, out of country companies or shoots from threatening a Condom Use adult industry in America?

How about Taxes?

Yes, Taxes.

If condom use is made mandatory in American Porn, all we have to do is add teriffs to the price of imported porn made, or shot, in other countries.

We do it with automobiles, so why not tax foreign made porn?

With Mr. Floored's assumption that 'bareback' porn always wins, I also disagree.

See-through condoms don't bother me a bit.

Pop shots onto faces aren't a problem, nor are pop shots on all other areas of the body, as long as a performer doesn't have an open cut.

HIV can't easily get into the human body if there isn't an open cut, or sore.

In the end, all we're really debating is a penis sheethed in see-through latex.

I can live with a penis sheethed in see-through latex, coming off at the last second to pop on the uncut, soreless face of a lovely young girl, possibly fresh out of high school.

The alternative is possibly death.

When you stop and think about it, it's really not a big deal.

You simply levy huge taxes on foreign videos, and foreign shoots that don't use condoms.

OSHA implements mandatory condom use nationwide.

The assumption that no one will buy American Porn anymore with condoms is flawed.

As for production moving out of LA...

...Doesn't Jenna shoot in Scottsdale, Arizona?

...and doesn't she shoot there because it's CHEAPER to live there?

Hell yeah it is.

Try buying a house in LA. GOOD LUCK.

Then try buying one in Scottsdale.

For what you get in LA, you can get a full-on MANSION in Scottsdale.

If you want to keep production from leaving LA, you need to bring down the home prices. Good luck with that. I'm amazed people still shoot at all in LA, considering the cost.

But the real reason porn is still shot in LA is this...

...Porn has flourished in LA for so many decades, and will CONTINUE to flourish there because-

-Girls come to LA to become Stars.

When that plan fails...they need quick money.

Then, they do porn.

That's why porn will never leave LA.

LA Porn feeds on the broken dreams of singers, actresses, junkies, models, and various other 'entertainers'.

And that's why Porn will never leave LA. Never ever.

Not even with mandatory condom use.

As for the foreign porn coming in...

Would a porn buyer pay $60 for a DVD without condoms, made in Mexico, versus a see-through condoms using porn DVD made in LA that costs $24.95?

Most viewers will take the $24.95, and not worry about the see-through condom.

Porn is about the damn girls, anyway...isn't it?

Why in the fuck would a heterosexual guy give a flying fuck about a penis anyway? I know I sure as hell don't care.

Once again, it's time for America to lead the way, and the rest of the world will follow.

When we start using condoms in porn, it will spread to the rest of the world.

Once upon a time, the same Duke Floored arguement was used against the use of seatbelts in automobiles.

I think we know how that turned out.

Can you buy an automobile made in Japan that doesn't have seatbelts in it?

Nope.

Think about it.

Safer cars eventually became a selling point.

Thus, I think Mr. Floored is completely incorrect about this issue.

Just my two cents worth. Take it, or leave it.

The Outsider

actually, porn is mostly shot in LA because it is legal to shoot it here.
in most of the country it still is not.
and if they think they could pull it off, more power to them, but you know what... many will still shoot without condoms.... just have to do it the old fashioned outlaw way of the forefathers of this business.

and outsider... what happened to "all the media coverage on 20/20, and 60minutes" or the presidents speech.....

Since there hasn't been another positive yet, the news outlets, as well as the White House, are all sitting back, and watching.

If a miracle occurs, and only two people are infected, neither the news or the White House will comment further.

If it spreads, all bets are off.

Keep saying those prayers, maybe they're helping.

I do know this though...

...contrary to what the LA County Health Distrist is saying publicly, they're scared shitless.

They know that if this thing goes out of control, shit will start falling on them from the sky.

And in that sky, is the White House.

Stay tuned.

The Outsider

some may move out of ca, most will stay for economic reasons and legal ones. Will some go underground, yep. However, how "underground" can you go? You sell your evidence right there. Look at this tape, no condom, ok, its company xyz. Follow the money... ahhh... there you are, busted!
Plus just wait till one girl gets an std and ends up sterile. She'll have a dozen lawyers ready to sue your ass before she's done with treatment.

Outsider,you actually disagree with Luke Ford on something ?!?


I'm really,really shocked(considering how preachy and conservative you always are around here)....

Yes, I actually disagree with Luke on this one.

I mean, girls aren't exactly flocking to Scottsdale, Arizona, are they?

And, most porn girls can't even spell, much less learn how to make travel arrangements.

Laziness, on the part of girls who come to LA to be 'stars' is what will always keep porn strong here.

With or without condoms, LA will always be the headquarters.

For instance...

The movie industry thought that with the use of the Avid in editing, and the invention of the HDTV camera, that film production might get up, and move somewhere else.

It didn't.

Of course, people do create productions in other cities using Avids and cheaper HD cameras...but the bulk of the production stayed here.

Thus, it's time to go with mandatory condom use.

Like I said, the only thing we're debating here is a penis in an invisible latex sheeth.

Just do it, folks, and stop complaining.

It's either that, or you revolutionize the industry with DOSTAR, Day of Shoot Testing and Results.

The way I see it, those are the ONLY two rational choices you people have.

Bitching and blaming and gossiping won't get any of you anywhere.

Take action, make a damn choice, and stick with it.

The Outsider

Does this guy have any concept of how viruses work and anything about a virus load? DOSTAR THIS AND THAT Won't do squat if a guy fucked one day with someone HIV+ and the next day decided to do a scene with test results of DOSTAR... the guy will most likely in the 90% range come out clean. And still take a small chance in transmitting the virus to someone else even though it hasn't given much of enough timefor the virus to work it's way and do it's thing.

PSH

Gen, you make a good point.

Actually, you make a very good point for mandatory condom use.

The LA Times has a story today in their first section about how the state is ready to demand just that.

Mandatory condom use might send some productions to Canada, or elsewhere, but like I said, all the porn industry in LA needs is a really good lawyer to solve that problem.

You levy huge taxes on shoots for videos made in foreign countries, which offsets the cheaper labor.

Thus, if Red Light District shoots in Canada, a tax is levied on that product. All a good lawyer needs to do, with lobbying in Sacramento and Washington, is to get a teriff tax passed.

For instance...

If Red Light shoots in Canada, proper papers must be filed showing they shot in Canada, and an import tax, that is, a teriff, is added into the price of the product, which is passed on to consumers.

With a high enough teriff, the overrall price of a video shot in Canada will make the price of the DVD higher than one shot in LA.

It's all about lobbying.

You're right about viruses, for now.

It does take longer to detect some viruses RIGHT NOW.

However, testing technology is moving along at a fast clip.

If condom use is made mandatory, a company that comes up with a new DOSTAR product will make millions, and have the incentive to create one. That is, if companies have to shoot with condoms, even for a short time, the incentive for invention will be HIGH.

If I were in the testing technology field right now, I'd be working 24 hours a day to make a full panel test that can give results to all STD's in a couple of hours.

The company that comes up with that solution will become INSTANT MILLIONAIRES.

If you have any friends who make tests, call them.

I bet they're excited.

In the mean time, condom use will be mandated, and porn lawyers will be preparing lobbying strategies.

Sure as fuck wish I knew enough about creating tests to be in that field right now.

Testing technologies, as of yesterday, just became a fucking GOLDMINE.

The Outsider

I'm not against the mandatory condom use. Heck if I could do all the shit i've done iwth a condom, I'd be happier but that's not how it was.

As much as a lot of people would have a hard time performing with a condom for various reasons, I'm sorry.

Although I'd never go against a condom if it were an option. I'm sure tons of people as viewers will bitch and complain about it but really tough shit, use your imagination that the condom isn't there. I dont know, something LOL

I'm curious how vivid is number one out there and they use condoms? I dont hear anyone bitch about them unless it's a fan who strictly only enjoys extreme hardcore gonzo.

SOMEBODY EXPLAIN THE DUMB WITTED!

Good point.

I think that most of the people who rail against condom use in porn are kinda like the guys that get up on plastic milk boxes to preach the 'word' in town squares.

They're loud, they're obnoxious, they're wrong, and they're the minority.

I mean, what straight guy really gives a rats ass about a condom? I'm looking at the girl, and all her lovely parts. The penis might as well be plastic, for all I care.

Would some guys have a problem PERFORMING in condoms?

Hmm.

Maybe that's what all this is REALLY about.

In that case, I'll have to jump in.

I've ALWAYS used condoms with the girls I've been with, and I've only had one problem...but that's because I hated the chick- but that's beside the point.

Maybe all these so-called 'angry viewers' are really just talent in disguise. Talent who couldn't get it up WITHOUT a condom, and surely wouldn't be able to get and keep it up WITH a condom.

If condom use is made mandatory, I'm probably going to give your business a whirl.

I'm looking FORWARD to it.

It's my ticket in, and I can't wait to see it happen.

Are there guys that are scared of condoms in porn because they wouldn't be able to perform?

I bet it's those guys who are saying people won't buy condom porn.

I doubt the average viewer would give a shit.

Just my opinion.

The Outsider

Sounds like the outsider was talking about himself on the soap box.