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#209427 - 12/26/06 10:21 PM
Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Gerald R. Ford, who picked up the pieces of Richard Nixon's scandal-shattered White House as the 38th president and the only one never elected to nationwide office, has died, his wife, Betty, said Tuesday. He was 93.
"My family joins me in sharing the difficult news that Gerald Ford, our beloved husband, father, grandfather and great grandfather has passed away at 93 years of age," Mrs. Ford said in a brief statement issued from her husband's office in Rancho Mirage. "His life was filled with love of God, his family and his country."
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#209429 - 12/26/06 10:43 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Registered: 04/14/06
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Chevy Chase's SNL schtick certainly hurt America's image of him.
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#209432 - 12/27/06 05:59 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Registered: 04/17/04
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it would have been cooler if carter had died.
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#209433 - 12/27/06 07:49 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/13/04
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His biggest achievement was... pardoning Richard Nixon?! WTF?
Well, I guess that's what we do best in this country. After the most amazing of fuck-ups, we just sweep it all under the rug and move on. Unfortunately, that pile of shit under the rug is getting so high it's taking over the room.
Carter was the first actually elected president to serve after Nixon, and the power structure was bound and determined to rein in the power of the Executive, so Carter wasn't allowed to do anything on the domestic front. A fact that most conservatives use to belittle his presidency.
Now we have the exact opposite situation, with the power of the Executive run roughshod over the Judiciary and the Congress.
Oh well. The pendulum just keeps swinging...
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#209434 - 12/27/06 07:51 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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carter deserves to die in front of a firing squad.
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#209435 - 12/27/06 08:23 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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It will be amusing to watch Faux News try to come up with accomplishments for ol Jerry.
Ford: More Placeholder than President.
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#209436 - 12/27/06 08:25 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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It'd be cooler if it was Clinton .
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#209438 - 12/27/06 09:10 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Reply to CumWhipper: Watergate left the country with great deal of suspicion and disdain for the executive, which - along with a bad economy - hampered both Ford and Carter. Ford was an ineffective president but an outstanding Congressman highly respected by both parties. I still remember the wild ovation he got when he first addressed Congress. His pardon of Nixon was a terrible mistake and denied the country the full truth of his crimes. His "Whip Inflaton Now" slogan as a way to improve the ecomony was a laughable farce but the "W.I.N." buttons, of which I had several, me made good money on eBay. Carter was a TERRIBLE president and not all his problems were due to the check on the Executive. Like Woodrow Wilson, he did not work well with Congress - which was quite odd since both houses were SOLIDLY Democratic. Part of that was due to Tip O'Neill, a complete asshole, who like Gingrich felt the President should stick his nose up the Speaker's ass. That said, Carter should have won the Nobel Prize for his mediation of the settlement between Egypt and Israel which lasts even to the day. American Ralph Bunche*, won the prize for his negotiations after Israelis killed the 1st UN negotiator - but this "final settlement" didn't last all that long. Carter's election had some of the qualities of W's 1st candidacy. Like in 1960 there were serious allegations that Mayor Daley of Chicago had “Katherine Harris-ed†the results. Ford decide not to challenge in part to avoid further chaos -- Something he deserves credit for. * for trivia fans, he was the first African-American to win a nobel prize. Nobel Site Reference [Note: FatMan refers to himself as a Conservative Democrat. He was extremely active in the BUSH I primary campaign in 1980 and in part voted for Reagan because of the "zero" jinx. As an executive board member of the largest white collar workers' union he was nominated by SEIU as delegate from NJ for Clinton in 1992 after he was disillusioned by Bush's "conversion" to Reagan's policies and alliance with the Christian Right. Once it was clear Clinton would be the nominee and the bandwagon filled, he was dumped.]
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#209439 - 12/27/06 09:18 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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i like your politics, senorita fatmanita.
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#209440 - 12/27/06 10:14 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/13/04
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Very good, balanced assessment, FatMan.
You'd never make it as a Fox commentator! LOL
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#209441 - 12/27/06 10:33 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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His pardon of Nixon was a terrible mistake and denied the country the full truth of his crimes.
Not really. By the time RMN resigned, the depth of his crimes were pretty well known through investigative reporting and congressional testimony. The rest of your analysis is pretty good though.
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#209442 - 12/27/06 11:44 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Very good, balanced assessment, FatMan.
You'd never make it as a Fox commentator! LOL
Nor CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, etc. There weren't any liberal talking points in Fatman's post. I love it how one, just one, right leaning cable news network sticks in the claw of so many people. I thought diversity and tolerance was one of the foundations of the liberal cause or is that only when it benefits the liberal cause.
Nice work Fatman, good read.
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#209446 - 12/27/06 04:32 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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carter deserves to die in front of a firing squad.
Why? What happened?
He installs hidden cameras in his "Habitat for Humanity" houses so he can ogle naked children.
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#209449 - 12/27/06 08:40 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Registered: 08/26/03
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He's taking a lot of shit for his criticisms of Israel lately.
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#209451 - 12/29/06 08:59 AM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Profile In Courage? hmmmm not so much... Quote:
"Rumsfeld and Cheney and the president made a big mistake in justifying going into the war in Iraq. They put the emphasis on weapons of mass destruction," Ford said. "And now, I've never publicly said I thought they made a mistake, but I felt very strongly it was an error in how they should justify what they were going to do." [...]
"Well, I can understand the theory of wanting to free people," Ford said, referring to Bush's assertion that the United States has a "duty to free people." But the former president said he was skeptical "whether you can detach that from the obligation number one, of what's in our national interest." He added: "And I just don't think we should go hellfire damnation around the globe freeing people, unless it is directly related to our own national security."
The comments would speak for themselves, if it weren't also for the terms of that embargo:
The Ford interview -- and a subsequent lengthy conversation in 2005 -- took place for a future book project, though he said his comments could be published at any time after his death.
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#209452 - 12/29/06 12:52 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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#209453 - 12/29/06 04:39 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Registered: 09/13/05
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Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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So, France has got "stones", too??????
Rarely since the end of the first world war. I think Melissa Lauren's quote about not feeding Muslims was pretty much the peak of French testosterone in nearly a century.
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#209454 - 12/29/06 08:23 PM
Re: Gerald Ford:1913-2006
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Registered: 01/07/06
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At the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse in Portland this week, their really big flag was flying at 3/4-mast. I found this appropriate and amusing. http://www.dyna-portland.com/services/projects/proj_moh_court.html
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