Yeah, shittenheimer brings it when his teams play the Raiders but without LT the motherfucker doesn't do shit. Shannahan is a very good coach who does well with any team he's given, but let's see if his qb savior is the answer. Jury is still out on that. As far as Herm Edwards goes, he was the Raiders bitch a few years back when they were making their playoff runs. Like I said earlier. The Raiders have the best Defense in the AFC west and will probably have the best defense next year too. All they need is a moderately good O and things will be fine.