How many people can a porn guy fuck in 29 days?
You do the math.

And how many, from those whom he fucked, will fuck others in 29 days?

We're talking exponents here, folks.
This to the that to the this and that power.

So why is everyone so up in arms right now about the Darren James HIV incident?

I guess you'd call it the horrific end results of 'wishful thinking'.

It's wishful thinking that a porn guy, infected with HIV, only fucked 12 girls in the course of 29 days.

So- if ONE positive can shut down an industry for two months...

...wasn't it wishful thinking that 30 days really meant anything to begin with?

Yep, it was.

It was wishful thinking.

You folks have called me names, hated my guts, and done just about everything to shut me up.

Now it's time to listen.

The number of positive results from this one infected performer is going to be staggering.

My prediction:

As many as 20-25 of you are going to end up with HIV.

Isn't it time you people get your heads out of your infected asses-

...and make condom-only shooting MANDATORY?

Isn't it time you considered Day Of Shoot Testing and Results, or DOSTAR?

Wishful thinking can be deadly, folks.

Wishful thinking is what allowed Hitler to dominate Europe, and sent hundreds of thousands to their graves.

My heart goes out to Darren James.

My heart goes out to those who will learn their terrible fates within the next few weeks.

My heart DOES NOT go out to the wishful thinkers.

Your wishful thinking...
...is fucking killing people.

The Outsider

Dude, can't you fuck off and die already?

Malice

...said the man who suggested that porn performers are going to get herpes anyway, so why not just accept it.

Point proven.

The Outsider

Has anyone else tested positive since Darren?

oh geez, took this dildo long enough to get on and prosletyze again.

I didn't even plan on commenting about this,but since everybody in the industry is running widely in panic(as if Bush and his cronies are going to arrest everybody in porn,including the fans),I might as well have my say on the matter,for it's ridiculous how lots of young ladies(many whom frequented this year's AVN Expo that closely out-numbered the attending fans)suddenly want to leave the industry,and how many company honchos are suddenly on the run for cover,for I deeply understand the fear of the HIV/AIDS virus,but yet we all can't be running and panicing that "The sky is falling,the sky is falling!!!!" like everybody did when 9/11 happened,for we've all got to hang tough and very tight around this dangerous situation,and show everybody that we won't let Darren Jones' HIV status scare everybody away,and that Bush can't easily come along to bulldoze and destroy a genre we all so endearingly love(yeah,fuck you,Bush and fuck you,Ashcroft !!!!).
That's what is so appealing about the porn industry,for its filmmakers,performers,and fans all stick together like family,no matter what hostile worldwide situation or childish feud between such-and-such openly occurs,for we're all the same oridnary people with the same feelings and emotions,too,and together we can all survive this terrifying situation,and if anybody needs work in the next 60 days,just use your acting talents to act in any filming B movies,for those B movie guys are always looking for ladies to expose on-camera(as long as it's not dumb slasher body bag fodder),and I'm sure that poon filmmakers can be director-for-hire on B movies,as well.
I may not be making a popular statement,but thanks for taking the time out to read it.

I dont know OUTSIDER but I wouldn't think having sameday testing is a bad idea but as a medical/clinical technologist it had be a damn miracle one of these days to find a test that will give sameday results for HIV-1 & HIV-2 that the government will legalize.

I guess the FDA approved OraQuick that gives HIV results in about 20minutes but the problem is the government isnt going to allow production companies to purchase these tests in order to receive immediate results and go with the working porno day.

One of the reasons why is because if a person test positive for HIV on set, that person has the chance to run away, fuck around and never take step in taking care of the problem. And the production company could only report the person to what? AIM? and what are they going to do? They can't drag the person to the clinic.

Same day testing with OraQuick may be nice but the regular testing every month with AIM should stay in effect since AIDs does have its incubation period inwhich the OraQuick could not detect at the time.

gen, outsider sounds more and more familiar to me all the time.

could it be because when he's here at xxxporntalk the only thing he bitches about is STDs? and how worthless we are? i dunno...

oh wait, Mike South?

Gen, Gen, Gen...

Rob, Rob, Rob...

I don't think ANY of you are worthless.

I have never, ever said that.

Why would I fight so hard to protect you if I thought that?

I like you people, even though you do tend to test my nerves.

And one day, if porn was ever truly safe, and no one got killed from it anymore, I might like to jump in, and show you how good I am, and would be.

But alas...

...until then...

We can only debate here.

For once, maybe once in a lifetime, I think we're all in agreement for a change.

The current system needs to be updated, and changed.

I don't think you people are worthless...

...not at all.

I do, however, think you can be damn careless.

I harp on the STD's because of the wishful thinkers in porn who- until Wednesday- thought all would be fine, fine, fine...forever.

Now you guys are national news, prominently displayed on CNN, FOX and MSNBC.

(Gee...I wonder how that happened...)

Like it or not, I have the unenviable job of telling people what they don't like to hear.

Why do I do it?

Got me. Maybe it's my near death experience, which showed me a glimpse of the other side. Maybe it's an Angel in my ear. Hell if I know.

But I can tell you this...

It sure ain't because I'm Mike South.

Why don't some of you dorks ask me out for a drink and talk to me face to face? We could clear that up in about five seconds.

Until then, I guess I'll be all these odd people.

Underneath it all, I'm just a guy with a conscience, who really hates watching wishful thinkers create problems.

As the list grows to what I predicted it will grow to, I will continue to pray for those who learn their fates.

My heart goes out to Ms. Roxx, and her family.

No 18 year old, fresh out of high school, should be faced with what she will be faced with.

I bitched, I pleaded, I shouted...yet no one listened.

Maybe they'll listen now.

It's a time for Prayer, ladies and gentlemen.

Get yourselves to church, and light a candle for the next little girls, who made bad decisions, who will now be named.

Those little girls have moms and dads, as do those men, and God sees them all as His children.

He also hears your prayers, whether some of you want to believe that or not.

It's a time for Prayer, and a time for change.

The Outsider

Some of the comments you've said in the past in a few threads such as "I Molested An Adult As A Kid" & "Reasons Why I Love Jessica & Nick More THan Porn" and others gives good enough harsh words mentioned towards adult talent that I wouldn't consider it any better or worse than just saying "worthless"

Here's a good example... it's a great stereotype:

ADVICE FROM THE OUTSIDER TO SCOTT FAYNER...

Dear Scott:

Girls that go into porn don't like sex.

Girls that go into porn don't like relationships.

Girls that go into porn were complete losers in high school, got pretty at about age 17 and 3/4, and decided to try to make up for lost attention.

Girls that go into porn, just like strippers, are attempting to control a situation that they couldn't control before. Whether they were raped or had sex with daddy, they're trying to put themselves back on top of the act that threw their lives asunder. The men they choose to fuck, hang out with, or marry, all become victims on their way to conquering these past violations.

Girls that go into porn often become religious zealots in later life, or write books about being 'exploited'.

Girls that go into porn should never, ever, ever be considered 'marriage material'.

Girls that go into porn are empty inside, and attempt to fill up the void of nothingness by shopping. The malls of Southern California regularly contain many of these living ghosts.

Girls that go into porn aren't really there, even when you're with them. They simply aren't comfortable in their own skin.

Girls that go into porn lack the ability to love. Loving means compromise. Relationships mean compromise. Girls that go into porn are so angry, that compromise is out of the question.

Girls that go into porn look for guys like Scott Fayner to cut deals with so they can get free advertising on an oft-viewed web site.

Guys like Scott Fayner need to learn how to keep a distance between himself and porn girls, while looking for girls who aren't lost, angry, and cynical.

In the fucked up world we live in where 'feminists' think being a prostitute or porn 'star' is a way of being independent, it's going to be pretty tough to find a girl who still values going to college, getting a responsible job, and who has moral values.

Therefore, I have a suggestion.

I'd suggest dating a teenager, who hasn't been raped or molested, who is still in high school, and marrying her in Hawaii, where the legal age of consent is 14. If you don't hurt her, you can mold her into a fine young woman who doesn't hate men, and won't go into porn.

I met my wife when she was 15, we married in Vegas when she was 16, and we've been happily married for ten years. Did I 'train her'? You bet I did. I 'trained her' to become the CEO of a major company, an amazingly honest woman, and never fucked her over. I've never cheated on her, not even once.

Just in case some of you might like to think I did something illegal, I didn't. We didn't have sex until she was 16, and her mom wrote a letter allowing her to get married in the State of Nevada. So you can all take the criticisms I know are coming and shove them directly up your assholes.

If those statements make all the porn girls mad, guess what- FUCK YOU. You've based your entire lives on your looks, and your looks will fade. Vanity is a motherfucker, y'all.

Please go to therapy instead of going into porn, young ladies. We don't need more of your dead victims laying around, just because daddy or uncle fucked you up the ass when you were 8. We, the good men of the world, aren't your daddy or uncle, we didn't do it, and we don't deserve your anger, and your selfishness.

Good luck, Scott. And make sure you buy a plane ticket to Hawaii. We'd love to hear you write about that trip.

Word to the wise. If you do happen to take up with a 14 year old in Hawaii, you can't take nude pics of them until they are either married to you, or 18, whichever comes first.

A child bride is a great way to piss off your ex, too.

Worked miracles in my case.

Gen...

I don't think that ANY of those things I said, and that I still stand by, mean any of these girls, including YOU, are 'worthless'.

People can change.

Some girls can change before the age of 36.

In fact, after this horrible incident, I think you'll see alot of that.

My main complaint here on this board, has been aimed at the 'wishful thinkers' who believed, and who challenged me, that something like the Epidemic we are now witnessing...

...could not happen.

Going into an industry where a porn guy gets tested on day one, flys to Brazil on day two, gets HIV on day three-

-and then has 29 days to transmit it back to the rest of the porn world-

-this is NOT intelligent.

PERFORMING under the circumstances where this could happen, that is a 29 DAY GAP...is NOT an intelligent decision.

People that make bad decisions, based on bad intelligence, are not bad people.

They're simply people who make bad decisions.

I stand firmly by all those things I've said.

What I would like to see now, is intelligent people like YOU calling for change.

Girls who want to be porn stars have problems.

They need guidance.

People who have been in this business knew this could happen, yet did not emphasize it to the talent that recently graduated from high school.

So, who is the demon here?

I, who has been screaming for a change in the system to protect these girls, and guys, who have made life altering decisions...

...or those who knew better?

Just because porn girls have terrible issues, does not mean they should pay for them with their lives.

My psychological profile stands.

What will not stand, however, is the opinions of those who should have known better.

I can forgive the most wayward girl.

Even if she is completely off the mark, and out of touch with reality.

What's really hard to forgive is those who knew better, and yet, did nothing.

Did you know better, Gen?

I think you did.

Yet, you continually told me I was wrong.

It's up to you now to change this.

Stop bitching at me, and start changing the system.

It failed.

What a shame it is, that after all these debates...

...people will have to pay for these mistakes...

...with their lives.

It could have been prevented.

Shall I resurrect all my posts about the dangers of a flawed system, that endangers lives of performers?

I think not.

Why?

Well, because you read all those.

And you told me I was wrong.

Can you tell the parents of Lara Roxx that you did all you could? Can you tell the parents of Darren James that you did all you could? Can you?

Wayward, fucked up in the head, yes, maybe they are.

I tell the Truth.

They probably are.

However, I did my level best to scream at the top of my lungs that this would happen.

You laughed at me.

Let's see what you tell CNN now.

The Outsider

I wasn't ever intentionally saying you were wrong with anything but I was trying to point out that you are neurotic and blow some issues out of proportion.

I did an interview yesterday for a college newspaper regarding the adult industry and whats controversial. I discussed how a union in this industry could do a lot of great alterations. Where performers must have their stage names registered and not have the right to use multiple names so they are easier to identify when it comes to a situation like this. And so that the industry is known to be more reliable in getting paid, in which we dont have to file indep. contractor or self employment when doing taxes and have to pay an additional percetage of what we make just because we're self employed. Many things...

And so I'll admit, I did know better coming into this industry first starting out in non-sexual films and partners right in the smack middle of chemotherapy and having to pop them sick ass pills.

But I did take more extra precaution than what AIM just had when I first started. Cuz when I first started, it was only a HIV/AIDs test that was mandatory within the industry. That didn't stop me from going to my regular doctor and get a full panel test each time I had to pay a visit, that was almost once every week and a half.

I took huge chances in getting incredibly sick with pneumonia, anything really... and only once did I get an early stage of meningitis, stopped what I was doing, took care of myself, then returned a month later. Soon after then started to do movies.

The main reason I ever inched myself to do movies was not only my undying curiosity to exploit myself to the world as an exhibitionist but also knowing at the time I only had 3-4yrs left to live. My outlook on life was this:

"I'm 20 yrs old, dated one person, my time is running out, I haven't done the wild n crazy things ive always wanted to do and now is the time for me to let loose and not care this tme. NOt a care in the world and not a person will stop me but my promises will to be true to the others that I work with and make sure im clean."

Since then I worked an average of twice a week at the most. That's not a whole lot and find it reasonable but thats my main reason. At that point in my life I was going to second guess it.

Now I dont have a time limit on my life, things could always change, I was still in the business while in remission and continued to maintain my working pace the same. It was enough to still be in touch with my true self.

This time around, things go back to almost point A and there isn't much that I can do. I realize that since I've had my taste of the wild side and did what I wanted, I can lay off a bit and concentrate on myself. Which ive been doing since Jan.

Instead with my free time, as dumb as it is, I've been going to interviews to possibly go back to working at a lab or some medical facility like I did before but how could i possibly do that all day long when I can hardly walk up my own stairs without being in excruciating pain and need to lay down every few hours?

That doesn't stop me with trying to get the jobs, at least I know there might be somewhere I can go rather than staying home a lot and running the distribution company that I have going. But that doesn't require a lot of my own time.

SO ther eyou have it, I knew better, but went for it. Give me s hit all you want but at least I'm aware of my actions and did the best I could in being clean and responsible for those I worked with.

Gen...

When I died, I found something out.

I found out that there really is a God, and that God really does listen, and that God really does give a shit.

Yes, I died.

It was the best thing that ever happened to me.

I have made so many mistakes. I still do. I am most often a complete dumbass who can't remember where he put his car keys. My wife happens to be organized, thank the Lord, and helps me out whenever my brain fails me.

But one thing I learned from my death experience is this:

THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS WHAT YOU DO RIGHT NOW.

It's an important time in the adult industry.

You can cover up. You can rail at TT Boy for shooting in Brazil. You can blame Sharon Mitchell. You can be angry at the craze for anal sex. You can say 'Condoms Won't Work! The viewers won't buy our Products!'

All of these things you can say are WRONG.

What you CAN say, is that you've learned from this growing tragedy, and that you'll do better next time.

That's what I want to hear.

That's what America wants to hear.

America is very, very forgiving of people who admit they were 'learning', and who want to do better.

America IS NOT very forgiving of people who place blame, and say they had no part in the tragedy.

When you talk to the media, the importance should be on LEARNING, not on BLAMING.

Yes, there were few like me, who could withstand all the hate and anger that got thrown my way.

But I'm not asking for credit.

Instead, YOU take the ideas, and run with them.

YOU take the lessons learned, and make change.

If you've only got a limited amount of time left on this earth, darling, I think the BEST you can do with it is to IMPROVE THE LIVES OF OTHERS.

Does that mean saying things that people hate you for?

Yes, it does.

Does that mean saying things that aren't popular?

Yes, it does.

There's a God up there, Gen.

Trust me about that.

And that God ain't interested in excuses.

That God is interested in Growth.

God loves porn people just as much as He loves people who go to church. He loves Gays, and Lesbians, and Bisexuals too.

What God doesn't like is people who see a problem...

...and don't do anything about it.

It's your time to shine, if you want to shine, Gen.

Let's see you use that brain now, in a time of crisis, to bring about real change.

I know you've got it in you.

All it takes is GUTS.

The Outsider

P.S...

The first live report on this tragedy will air on CNN in about five minutes. That's 11:30am Pacific Time.

KABOOM.

The Outsider

The report aired.

According to my estimates, which come from organizations which poll how many people watch news at what time...

...25 million people saw that report.

Thus, the news vans will soon be coming to a studio near YOU.

If you would like some advice on how to handle the media when they knock on your door, please see my response to Jeff Steward and Tony Malice under the article titled 'Sensationalized...' in this section.

If you'd like any advice beyond what I've given, please ask me.

You might find me to be a very, very informative source on this matter.

Don't underestimate me, folks. That would be an error.

This issue may very well be commented on by the President.

Yes, that would be the President of the United States of America, Mr. George Bush.

Look for a comment by Mr. Bush within the next two positive findings, which will come within the next two days.

And, like me, the President is NOT going to be interested in blame placing. He'll want to see RESULTS.

The Outsider

ahhhh, more proof this man is full of shit.

i was watching CNN... im a news junkie. i have CNN on one tv and MSNBC on the other. from 11:25 -11:29 were commercials. from 11:30 till now was build up to a white house breifing on iraq and the white house breifing...

whoops. outsider.

During the Wall Street briefing, at 11:28am, the first live report aired.

I watched it, because I knew it was going to happen.

Maybe you were watching Headline News, buddy.

CNN is on another channel, ya boob.

Call 'em, and see if I'm wrong.

The Outsider

no... i was watching CNN, not headline news... i know the difference.

Sorry Rob, you're wrong.

Call CNN.

Would you like the number to the reporter that aired the story?

The Outsider

hmm thats interesting cuz I turned the channel to CNN at exactly 11:25 because thats when I saw the message. Sure enough I got tons of commercials and white house bull dong

I think its funny that the Outsider has instant Nielsen type feedback numbers. Don't think so. The story did make it to the drudgereport - many people (news industry, politics and regular people) do go there.

Unbelievable.

You people can't even watch television properly.

Wow.

The Outsider

at least we all know one thing...

LOL.

The Outsider

Outsider, I've read a few hundred posts since registering, you've got noble enough intentions, but consider the volume of your work here printed out and handed to a responsible psychiatrist. You'd give them a DSM-IV migraine dude, visions of god-predatory behavior towards younger women-repeated antisocial and antagonistic behavior- deeply-ingrained yet conflicted fantasies about sexually performing in front of others---the list goes on and on........

It may be helpful to appear less deranged if you want to be taken seriously.....