Another fruitless thread that flirts with serious examination. But like all the rest the examiners purposely and as a matter of course leave themselves out of the equation- which is analogous to something very simple I can't come up with right now. Perhaps trying to figure out the area of a circle without knowing or willing to acknowledge pi or something like that, maybe. It's this sort of labored yet also vacuous and self serving intellectual discourse that has lead the world to be in the dark troubles it is currently in.