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#19094 - 03/25/04 05:06 PM Obsenity
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: CA
Just doing a little research and found this:

Obsenity has been the subject of several Supreme Court cases and much debate. Supreme Court Justice Stewart once stated that he could probably never accurately define hard-core pornography but he knew it when he saw it. Obsenity has been defined by the Supreme Court in in two cases, Miller v. California, 413 U.S. 15, 27 (1973){27} and Hamling v. United States, 418 U.S. 87, 101 (1974).{28} Further, in United States v. Thomas, 74 F. 3d 701 (6th Cir. 1996), the Court used the Miller test to apply to online sexually explicit material. Based on those cases the Supreme Court fashioned a three prong test to define obsenity:

1. Would the 'average person, applying contemporary community standards' find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to 'prurient interest?'

2. Does the work describe or depict, in a 'patently offensive' way, sexual conduct that is specifically defined by applicable state law?

3. Does the work taken as a whole 'lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value?".

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Who exactly is an 'average person'?
What the fuck is 'contemporary community standards'?
'Prurient interest' - Isn't that what porn is all about?
'Patently Offensive' - To who?
'lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value' - what the fuck does this have to do with anything?
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Isn't it about time the adult industry took this on for clarification???

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#19095 - 03/26/04 06:51 AM Re: Obsenity
Jeff Steward Offline
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
Loc: JM Productions
We have,many times.You really are new to this which explains why your pro Bush.Fucking newbies need to do some homework before they vote.
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#19096 - 03/26/04 07:46 AM Re: Obsenity
xvod Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
Just because I'm bringing up an issue that has never been resolved doesn't mean I'm a 'newbie'. I've been in the industry since 1999 - but I'm sure its nothing when compared to your years of service.

I'm not necessarily pro-Bush. I'm pro-choice, pro-business, pro-freedom. I'm against government intervention in my affairs. I'm against excessive taxation to provide welfare recipients with a free ride. I'm against religious organizations that want to restrict my freedom. And - I'm against political organizations that will flat-out lie to unseat a candidate.

My point with this post is that there is no unified voice from the industry that can successfully lobby government due to the fragmented nature of adult entertainment. Everybody sits around whining about how the Bill of Rights is being stripped but nobody is willing to put their money where their mouth is until their freedom is at stake. Because of that mentality organizations like the FSC are too busy trying to put out small fires around the country.

Conservative right-wing christian groups kick millions of dollars into the till every year to lobby government and restrict our freedom. What does the multi-billion dollar adult entertainment industry kick in to lobby government????

Adult entertainment IS mainstream, millions of people across the country consume it regularly. I'm pretty fucking sure that if the industry as a whole kicked in $20 million (out of the supposed billions of dollars generated annually) the 'obsenity' problem would be resolved for everybody.

Its 2004! Isn't it time the industry forms a coherent plan and a real trade organization to address national issues that really matter???


Edited by xvod (03/26/04 07:49 AM)

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#19097 - 03/29/04 06:01 AM Re: Obsenity
Jeff Steward Offline
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Registered: 04/14/03
Posts: 7408
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I'm all for it,but unfortunately there is no group out there spreading the good word.I would gladly donate $ to the cause.But as long as the porn community and porn consumers support sites like ADT,it ain't gonna happen.
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