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#190269 - 09/05/06 09:57 PM
Iran University Purge
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/06
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Loc: 2004 - the glory days
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TEHRAN, Iran - Iran's hard-line president urged students Tuesday to push for a purge of liberal and secular university teachers, another sign of his determination to strengthen Islamic fundamentalism in the country.
With his call echoing the rhetoric of the nation's 1979 Islamic revolution, Ahmadinejad appears determined to remake Iran by reviving the fundamentalist goals pursued under the republic's late founder, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini.
Ahmadinejad's call was not a surprise — since taking office a year ago, he also has moved to replace pragmatic veterans in the government and diplomatic corps with former military commanders and inexperienced religious hard-liners.
Iran still has strong moderate factions but Ahmadinejad's administration also has launched crackdowns on independent journalists, Web sites and bloggers.
Speaking to a group of students Tuesday, Ahmadinejad called on them to pressure his administration to keep driving out moderate instructors, a process that began earlier this year.
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#190270 - 09/05/06 11:12 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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Ahmadinejad is good people, I think moving towards WW3 is a smart move only a leader of his cunning could orchestrate.
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#190273 - 09/08/06 10:33 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
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Loc: Portland
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Oh, I love historical/hysterical pictures:  Go Rummy, go!
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#190275 - 09/08/06 11:07 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Oh, I love historical/hysterical pictures:
Go Rummy, go!
Go, FDR, go! Stalin killed 61 million people, baby! By this point - the Tehran conference - he'd already starved several million Ukranian farmers and had the gulags in full effect. Kiss his ass a little harder, you sexy polio cripple.
Seriously: What point do leftists try to make by putting forth that old picture of Rummy and Saddam? How does it not apply to FDR and Stalin, if not to a higher degree?
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#190276 - 09/08/06 11:34 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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Go, FDR, go! Stalin killed 61 million people, baby! By this point - the Tehran conference - he'd already starved several million Ukranian farmers and had the gulags in full effect. Kiss his ass a little harder, you sexy polio cripple.
Seriously: What point do leftists try to make by putting forth that old picture of Rummy and Saddam? How does it not apply to FDR and Stalin, if not to a higher degree?
Actually, my father was a teenager in the Ukraine during World War II and somehow survived to give birth to me at the ripe old age of 40 in the great U.S.A!
That said, isn't the Roman Empire culpable somehow?
FDR was the greatest U.S. president ever because he got the country through both the Great Depression and World War II.
Unless you listen to the right-wing echo chamber where he's the greatest threat to humanity since Satan...
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#190277 - 09/09/06 12:44 AM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 02/04/05
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Actually, my father was a teenager in the Ukraine during World War II and somehow survived to give birth to me at the ripe old age of 40 in the great U.S.A!
That said, isn't the Roman Empire culpable somehow?
FDR was the greatest U.S. president ever because he got the country through both the Great Depression and World War II.
Unless you listen to the right-wing echo chamber where he's the greatest threat to humanity since Satan...
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#190278 - 09/09/06 02:31 AM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Actually, my father was a teenager in the Ukraine during World War II and somehow survived to give birth to me at the ripe old age of 40 in the great U.S.A!
Stalin's famine was in 1932-1933 as a result of forced collectivization. Your father was likely born about that time. But if your father survived, Uncle Joe must have been a swell guy! 
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FDR was the greatest U.S. president ever because he got the country through both the Great Depression and World War II.
I imagine Lincoln preserving the Union or Washington leading the American revolution have it all over FDR. I'd put Reagan far above FDR as well.
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Unless you listen to the right-wing echo chamber where he's the greatest threat to humanity since Satan...
I'm no fan of socialism, but humanity has greater threats than a politician who has been dead for over half a century. Jimmy Carter still walks the Earth.
Of course, you didn't address why the pic of Rumsfeld and Saddam is different from the FDR and Stalin pic. Stalin could do more killing in a day than Saddam could in his entire reign, yet it is okay for FDR to have a smiling photo-op with him.
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#190280 - 09/09/06 05:54 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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Actually, my father was a teenager in the Ukraine during World War II and somehow survived to give birth to me at the ripe old age of 40 in the great U.S.A!
Stalin's famine was in 1932-1933 as a result of forced collectivization. Your father was likely born about that time. But if your father survived, Uncle Joe must have been a swell guy!
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FDR was the greatest U.S. president ever because he got the country through both the Great Depression and World War II.
I imagine Lincoln preserving the Union or Washington leading the American revolution have it all over FDR. I'd put Reagan far above FDR as well.
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Unless you listen to the right-wing echo chamber where he's the greatest threat to humanity since Satan...
I'm no fan of socialism, but humanity has greater threats than a politician who has been dead for over half a century. Jimmy Carter still walks the Earth.
Of course, you didn't address why the pic of Rumsfeld and Saddam is different from the FDR and Stalin pic. Stalin could do more killing in a day than Saddam could in his entire reign, yet it is okay for FDR to have a smiling photo-op with him.
Gotta do a little clarification here. My pops was born in the U.S.A., but for some unclear reason, his family moved back to their farm in the Ukraine just before World War II broke out. They had dual-citizenship, and after the war, they moved the hell back.
I shouldn't have said "ever"; change that to the 20th century.
Jimmy Carter's always a funny reference; a great Simpsons bit had the townspeople riot when a statue of him was unveiled in Springfield.
FDR, Churchill & Stalin was an alliance of necissity to defeat Hitler. Rumsfeld and Hussein was an alliance of opportunitism to stick it to Iran. Yeah, that's hair-splitting...
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#190281 - 09/09/06 11:54 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Jimmy Carter's always a funny reference; a great Simpsons bit had the townspeople riot when a statue of him was unveiled in Springfield.
I think there was a Homer quote: "Jimmy Carter?! He's history's greatest monster!"
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FDR, Churchill & Stalin was an alliance of necissity to defeat Hitler. Rumsfeld and Hussein was an alliance of opportunitism to stick it to Iran. Yeah, that's hair-splitting...
World Politics 101: There are no permanent alliances, just national self interest. (Making Iran and Iraq bleed eachother dry is pretty Machiavellian, actually.) In the same vein, here's a fun one:
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#190282 - 09/10/06 04:47 AM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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FDR was the greatest U.S. president ever because he got the country through both the Great Depression and World War II.
I would probably pick Teddy Roosevelt as the greatest US president, after perhaps Washington (the single act of refusing a third term was perhaps the most important political act in US history).
(Lincoln doesn't belong here; he got into a war his predecessors had avoided and did an abysmal job of Commander in Chief. The policy of refusing session at all costs had already been decided by Buchanan before Lincoln took office)
In terms of “getting the country through†the Great Depression: keep in mind none of the things FDR tried worked. Hitler ended the Great Depression. FDR gets credit for not giving up but ultimately he didn't get anywhere until the late 1930's war buildup (not by putting people to work but by injecting predictable demand into the market and making people willing to invest for a change).
FDR & Stalin: You have to remember that early in WW2 the allies truly believed Russia would make a peace treaty with Germany, at whatever cost, and leave the Allies to face Germany alone. That's what the Communists did in WW1 and everyone thought it would happen again. It wasn't just FDR who believed this: pretty much everyone obsessed over it at some time. You can't really understand the ass-kissing without realizing this. Even up past the Normandy invasion it was considered a strong possibility that Russia would stop at Germany's borders and allow the Allies to fight the full German army, and they realized that until late 1944 there was no chance the Allies could defeat Germany without Russia.
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I'd put Reagan far above FDR as well.
I don't know about “far ahead†but I think that in 20-30 years the view won't be that far apart, with FDR scoring rather better on foreign policy (WW2) and Reagan on economics (recovery from the 1970s).
PS Carter had help in the 1970s – wage & controls were introduced by Nixon, not Carter. And I would put Johnson down as much worse for the economy than Carter: Johnson's welfare spending just took a while to make itself known. And in the long term Bush is likely to be ranked right with Johnson, for the same reasons, and below Carter: as far as the American public is concerned there's not much worse than getting into a war without a way to get out of it with a victory.
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#190283 - 09/15/06 10:13 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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I would probably pick Teddy Roosevelt as the greatest US president, after perhaps Washington (the single act of refusing a third term was perhaps the most important political act in US history).
(Lincoln doesn't belong here; he got into a war his predecessors had avoided and did an abysmal job of Commander in Chief. The policy of refusing session at all costs had already been decided by Buchanan before Lincoln took office)
In terms of “getting the country through†the Great Depression: keep in mind none of the things FDR tried worked. Hitler ended the Great Depression. FDR gets credit for not giving up but ultimately he didn't get anywhere until the late 1930's war buildup (not by putting people to work but by injecting predictable demand into the market and making people willing to invest for a change).
FDR & Stalin: You have to remember that early in WW2 the allies truly believed Russia would make a peace treaty with Germany, at whatever cost, and leave the Allies to face Germany alone. That's what the Communists did in WW1 and everyone thought it would happen again. It wasn't just FDR who believed this: pretty much everyone obsessed over it at some time. You can't really understand the ass-kissing without realizing this. Even up past the Normandy invasion it was considered a strong possibility that Russia would stop at Germany's borders and allow the Allies to fight the full German army, and they realized that until late 1944 there was no chance the Allies could defeat Germany without Russia.
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I'd put Reagan far above FDR as well.
I don't know about “far ahead†but I think that in 20-30 years the view won't be that far apart, with FDR scoring rather better on foreign policy (WW2) and Reagan on economics (recovery from the 1970s).
PS Carter had help in the 1970s – wage & controls were introduced by Nixon, not Carter. And I would put Johnson down as much worse for the economy than Carter: Johnson's welfare spending just took a while to make itself known. And in the long term Bush is likely to be ranked right with Johnson, for the same reasons, and below Carter: as far as the American public is concerned there's not much worse than getting into a war without a way to get out of it with a victory.
Very good post; I commend you!
However, let me add a coupla things about Reagan. First, including Bush Sr.'s presidency, the national debt tripled (from roughly 1 trillion to 3 trillion). Second, Reagan eroded the church/state separation which had worked so well to make the United States the success it was, and instead employed God as a political cudgel (e.g. Meese Commission (on our beloved porn!), Ralph Reed and the Moral Majority, etc.).
Now, our nation is based on deficit-spending (tax cuts to get votes, #1 debtor nation in the world) and kow-towing to the faith-based masses.
It seems that Reagan might have started us down a path of irrationality (ignore the numbers) and delusion (only America knows what's right for the world)...
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#190284 - 09/15/06 10:19 PM
Re: Iran University Purge
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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However, let me add a coupla things about Reagan. First, including Bush Sr.'s presidency, the national debt tripled (from roughly 1 trillion to 3 trillion).
What was the national debt in respect to the national GDP? Just quoting a large number out of context is a common liberal canard, just like everything else in your post. (Where was the then Democrat-ruled Congress and Senate in all of this? Who controls spending, again?)
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#190285 - 09/15/06 11:15 PM
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Porn Icon
Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
Loc: The Dirty: 480
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Who controls spending, again?
The Bilderberg Group, of course.
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#190286 - 09/16/06 06:40 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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Now that we have single-party Republican rule, everything has been fixed: (from a 5/17/00 posting): "In the meantime, back to that national debt. Do you recall that there is a National Debt Clock? Yes, for more than a decade, a green electronic sign has flashed in Time's Square in New York, chronicling the growth of the national debt. But they're going to stop that clock. Today, they concede the numbers barely budge-in fact, the numbers are going backward because of the surpluses and the Treasury's buy-back of long-term bonds! The date set for turning off the National Debt Clock and taking it down is September 7th; the fellow who originally came up with the idea (September 7th is his birthday) chose the "arbitrary" date. The significance here is that the people who have paid for this sign for more than a decade realize it is no longer necessary." http://www.jobconnection.net/common/article53.htmlAnd now: "The most famous debt clock, located in Times Square in New York City, was created by eccentric estate mogul Seymour Durst. The clock is now owned by his son Douglas Durst. Durst's clock was deactivated in 2000 when the debt began to decrease. However, following large increases, the clock was reactivated a few years later, though had to be moved to make way for One Bryant Park. (Interestingly, some "man on the street" interviews showed that some people felt that the sign's deactivation meant that the debt had been eliminated, though it remained at roughly $5 trillion.) According to Durst the National debt is now increasing at such a rate that his clock will be obsolete (for lack of digits) when the debt reaches the $10 trillion mark, expected in the next two years." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._public_debt
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