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I don't know if a Pamela/Jenna comparison is all that accurate one takes dick on film, the other did it for home movies only and was "accidently" released. Neither would get the roll, but if one was to get it, it would go to Pamela. There is a sort of 'totem pole' if you will with actors/actresses. Top is Meryl Streep, middle is Pamela, and below the foundation are porn stars.




But why? Are we to pretend that because she doesn't do it on screen, that Sandra Bullock has never sucked a cock? I think this is just an arbitrary double standard on the part of the mainstream. Look at Pammie's TV show 'VIP'...the ability to act convincingly is not the #1 concern on this show, but instead the ability to look good in skimpy outfits. Same deal with 'Baywatch'. Most contract level girls with a bit of feature experience could pull this role off quite easily.

Look at the situation with the soft cut of Digital Playground's 'Pirates'...it's going into mainstream stores and on general display because all of the hardcore has been cut out of it. Who is to say that DP's (or Wicked, or Vivid) next step wouldn't be to make a cheesy, campy TV show like 'VIP', and just insert the hardcore scenes for the home video release. The TV show would in fact be free advertising for the video. If I found out that they were releasing a DVD of the 'Buffy The Vampire Slayer' show with hardcore footage of Sarah Michelle Gellar, Eliza Dushku, Michelle Trachtenberg, Charisma Carpenter, Alyson Hannigan, etc., I'd dare say I'd buy it...and I fucking detest Buffy!

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Nudity is one thing, but full on fucking/facials is another. What the moviegoers want is quality, you kind of alluded to it in the second/third paragraph about bean counters(I totally agreed BTW). BSG doesn't have nudity(although that would be ), it has quality acting, sripts, and plots. Something Hollywood is lacking. But seeing Chief Tyrol banging Boomer doggy style will only bring in the raincoat crowd, not mainstream american families.



Nudity is one thing, but it's one thing that is pretty much disappearing from mainstream films. I find it very odd that actresses will have a 'no nudity' clause, but are more than happy to be portrayed shooting people, taking drugs, etc. What's up with that?

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I tend to agree seeing Jessica Alba topless would rule. But it is a long jump from topless(or bottomless) to getting a face full of Ron Jeremy's kids.



I'm not saying she would have to chow cum on film, but rather that studios need to get a bit more realistic and start getting what they need rather than what the actor or actress wants.

Could you imagine Jet Li sitting down to discuss a script with some producers and saying 'I love the script, but I'd just like one small change...instead of my character beating the living shit out of his heavily armed adversaries with just his bare hands, I'd like him to seek out a peaceful resolution by reasoning with them and calmly discussing the differences between the two parties.'

Do you think said producer is going to say 'That's a great idea Jet!' or do you think he's going to say 'Get me Tony Jaa's agent...a role has just come up which I think he's suited for'.

Having Jessica Alba or whoever in a bikini ain't gonna cut it...people can see that in FHM and Maxim. The films need to have a Unique Selling Point, and giving people what they can see (and have indeed already seen) elsewhere isn't going to cut it. They need to ensure that films go from being 'might see' to 'must see'. The sad fact of the matter is that if you have Jessica Alba, Jessica Simson, Jennifer Love Hewitt, etc. getting them off in your film, then it's going to do box office because it's an 'event', especially for that all-important 18-35 male demographic. No one would give a fuck what the movie was about, who directed it, etc., but it would be a hit. Guys everywhere would be talking about it, and going to see it too.

And if you could tie that 'event' in with a script and a director that were good, and make good film out of it too, then the sky would be the limit. You also know that DVD sales would be through the roof on it as well. I don't think it's going to be too long before the penny starts to drop for the big studios, but we'll see...

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In order for porn(I don't count nudity as porn) to be mainstream, America would have to change it's culture drastically and I don't see that happening. According to birth records over the years this country will be more conservative, not less(Conservative are punching out more shorties).



Conservatives don't always breed Conservatives, and Liberals don't always breed Liberals. Kids very often rebel against their upbringing and their parents, one way or another.