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#188813 - 08/29/06 12:42 PM Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
loopnode Offline
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Registered: 01/12/05
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FALLON NAVAL AIR STATION, Nev. — Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday he is deeply troubled by the success of terrorist groups in"manipulating the media"to influence Westerners.

"That's the thing that keeps me up at night,"he said during a question-and-answer session with about 200 naval aviators and other Navy personnel at this flight training base for Navy and Marine pilots.

Rumsfeld was asked whether the criticism he draws as Pentagon chief and a leading advocate of the war in Iraq is an impediment to performing his job. He said it was not and he knows from history that wars are normally unpopular with many Americans."I expect that,"he said."I understand that."

"What bothers me the most is how clever the enemy is,"he continued, launching an extensive broadside at Islamic extremist groups which he said are trying to undermine Western support for the war on terror.

"They are actively manipulating the media in this country"by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said.

"They can lie with impunity,"he said, while U.S. troops are held to a high standard of conduct.

Later, in remarks prepared for delivery at a Reno, Nev., convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, Rumsfeld made similar points.

"The enemy lies constantly _ almost totally without consequence,"he told the veterans group, which was presenting him with the Dwight D. Eisenhower Distinguished Service Award."They portray our cause as a war on Islam when in fact the overwhelming majority ofvictims of their terrorism have been thousands and thousands of innocent Muslims _ men, women and children _ they have killed."

In his prepared remarks at Reno he also said,"While some argue for tossing in the towel, the enemy is waiting and hoping for us to do just that."

Rumsfeld often complains about what he calls the terrorists'success in persuading Westerners that the U.S.-led wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are part of a crusade against Islam. In his remarks at Fallon he did not offer any new examples of media manipulation; he put unusual emphasis, however, on the negative impact it is having on Americans in an era of 24-hour news.

"The enemy is so much better at communicating,"he added."I wish we were better at countering that because the constant drumbeat of things they say _ all of which are not true _ is harmful. It's cumulative. And it does weaken people's will and lessen their determination, and raise questions in their minds as to whether the cost is worth it,"he said alluding to Americans and other Westerners.

Rumsfeld flew to Fallon on Monday from Fairbanks, Alaska, where he spent the weekend meeting with families of soldiers deployed in Iraq. He also visited a missile defense site at Ft. Greely and met Sunday with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Ivanov to discuss Iraq and other issues.

Vice President Dick Cheney addressed the VFW convention in Reno on Monday morning. He asserted to the veterans that policies initiated by the Bush administration are the reason the United States hasn't been attacked since the Sept. 11 terrorist strikes five years ago.

Cheney defended the Iraq war as necessary in the overall battle against terrorism and reiterated the administration's position that U.S. troops would not withdraw until Iraqi forces were able to maintain order and stability.


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#188814 - 08/29/06 01:16 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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It is true they are masters of propaganda lately. In return we should make the Middle east flow with copies of Silent Hill, so that they know what such fanaticism leads to
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#188815 - 09/01/06 08:23 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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Registered: 01/07/06
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The fact that Rumsfeld has not been dismissed undercuts all of the Administration's statements and foreign policy.

I guess that makes me an appeaser...
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#188816 - 09/01/06 09:41 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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It's customary for terrorists to manipulate media, I would expect nothing less. It's the fact that our media organizations accept and spread said terrorist manipulated media without proper scrutiny that is troublesome.
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#188817 - 09/01/06 09:54 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
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It's customary for terrorists to manipulate media, I would expect nothing less. It's the fact that our media organizations accept and spread said terrorist manipulated media without proper scrutiny that is troublesome.




Since they can't get on planes with box cutters and short knives anymore (though, pre-9/11, several warnings of just such a thing were sent up the intelligence "pipes"), now the "Islamofaccists (tm)" are infiltrating our "liberal" media to undermine our truthiness...

..."they" are awfully clever, cunning and "evil"...and akin to the Nazis...because, historically, my goodness, enemies abound...

The perpetual "evil"...read "1984" again...

Enough of this, time to "cut and run", and get another beer...
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#188818 - 09/01/06 10:54 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
Ivor Biggun Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 1176
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It's customary for terrorists to manipulate media, I would expect nothing less. It's the fact that our media organizations accept and spread said terrorist manipulated media without proper scrutiny that is troublesome.




Since they can't get on planes with box cutters and short knives anymore (though, pre-9/11, several warnings of just such a thing were sent up the intelligence "pipes"), now the "Islamofaccists (tm)" are infiltrating our "liberal" media to undermine our truthiness...

..."they" are awfully clever, cunning and "evil"...and akin to the Nazis...because, historically, my goodness, enemies abound...

The perpetual "evil"...read "1984" again...

Enough of this, time to "cut and run", and get another beer...




I applaud your talent for creating the (very) superficial appearance of a clever rebuttal whilst adding absolutely nothing of substance to the debate.
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#188819 - 09/02/06 12:04 AM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
k1ng Offline
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Registered: 03/22/06
Posts: 6557
Loc: 2004 - the glory days
Quote:

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It's customary for terrorists to manipulate media, I would expect nothing less. It's the fact that our media organizations accept and spread said terrorist manipulated media without proper scrutiny that is troublesome.




Since they can't get on planes with box cutters and short knives anymore (though, pre-9/11, several warnings of just such a thing were sent up the intelligence "pipes"), now the "Islamofaccists (tm)" are infiltrating our "liberal" media to undermine our truthiness...

..."they" are awfully clever, cunning and "evil"...and akin to the Nazis...because, historically, my goodness, enemies abound...

The perpetual "evil"...read "1984" again...

Enough of this, time to "cut and run", and get another beer...



Wow, I hope to get as drunk as Cunter tonight.

I didn't think my original post was at all partisan, but I guess Cunter felt like reading between the lines. I'm not even sure if it's necessary that I defend myself, but what the hell...

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Since they can't get on planes with box cutters and short knives anymore (though, pre-9/11, several warnings of just such a thing were sent up the intelligence "pipes")



Hmmm, so which pre 9/11 president did nothing about such intelligence?

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Islamofaccists



I'll help you with this one. Free spelling lessons all day. Islamofascists. It's important to know how to spell the title of the people that want to kill you and your family.

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"Islamofaccists (tm)" are infiltrating our "liberal" media to undermine our truthiness...



It's almost pointless to respond to such an abomination of the english language. First of all, I never said "liberal" media. I truly meant the US media in general, but your guilty conscience just "outed" you. As far as "truthiness" goes, just do it.

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..."they" are awfully clever, cunning and "evil"...and akin to the Nazis...because, historically, my goodness, enemies abound...

The perpetual "evil"...read "1984" again...



So, how did underestimating fanatic, militant Muslims turn out for us last time? [hint]9/11[/hint]

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Enough of this, time to "cut and run", and get another beer...



"Cut and run" I didn't know you spoke French. Au revoir mon ami.



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#188820 - 09/02/06 12:42 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
Perfume Offline
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Registered: 07/05/06
Posts: 23
Loc: Australia
Quote:

It's customary for terrorists to manipulate media, I would expect nothing less. It's the fact that our media organizations accept and spread said terrorist manipulated media without proper scrutiny that is troublesome.




Yeah I agree...how our media deals with their bullshit is the real problem we have.

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#188821 - 09/02/06 01:42 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
Posts: 9184
"The Other Donald" is a useless military administrator who probably pleases himself to a picture of Jeane (sp?) Kirkpatrick while muttering "mutually assured destruction" over and over.

And all the while the armed forces have been developing LIC strategies, which include dealing with domestic support for armed conflict. Boy needs to pick up a Sam Sarkesian book and get reading.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1985/jul-aug/mcewen.html

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#188822 - 09/02/06 05:44 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
Gunker Offline
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Registered: 01/07/06
Posts: 4268
Loc: Portland
Main Entry: fas·cism
Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-
Function: noun
Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
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#188823 - 09/02/06 09:42 PM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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Registered: 09/02/06
Posts: 24
Loc: USA
Rumsfeld will lead us to victory over those scumbag towelheads trying to destroy our way of life.
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#188824 - 09/03/06 05:41 AM Re: Rumsfeld Says Terrorists Manipulate Media
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Registered: 08/25/06
Posts: 3018
Is this from The Onion?
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