But that's my point John- usually one stumbles upon these so bad they are good movies and then ends up liking them to some extent because of their campiness. Ricky Bobby and snakes are being shoved down our throats exhalting their campiness. We are being told this is silly and campy and you will like it, and then when we see the flick we end up dissapointed. At least Showgirls had nudity