Example 1 is a very interesting read.

I glanced it and right away some a bunch of crap that two seconds of research can debunk. 19 members of the Bin Laden family were flown out of the country within the week after 9/11. There are no amount of official sources, including FOX News, that will back up this claim.

The oil pipeline in Afghanistan... same deal.

The Patriot Act... Same deal.

And, John Ashcroft did lose to a dead guy. Not sure why they even mentioned that. Oh wait, yeah I do. It's a conservative think tank.

Example 2 is garbage. It simply quotes some dumb stuff Michael said.

Do you really want to get into people saying dumb stuff... It's G.W. were talkng about here. Do you really want to dive into that bottomless pool? George is the king of quoted dumb stuff.

I said it before, I'm not a Michael Moore fan, but much of the claims on Example 1's website can be refuted with two seconds of research.