He posted it on lukeford.com. I am sure you are all waiting for me to pounce on it and rip Fayner apart. Guess what, i won't. I feel bad for the guy, he seemed to be in love with the girl and even though it was fun to rip him apart whilst he was married and for over posting stuff about her on his site it is sad when something like this happens. So if by some chance fayner reads this, i am sorry to hear the news of the split hope it doesn't hold you down for too long.

Thanks for showing that you have both a heart and a conscience,Monkey,for both Scott and Sammura will really appreciate it.

ADVICE FROM THE OUTSIDER TO SCOTT FAYNER...

Dear Scott:

Girls that go into porn don't like sex.

Girls that go into porn don't like relationships.

Girls that go into porn were complete losers in high school, got pretty at about age 17 and 3/4, and decided to try to make up for lost attention.

Girls that go into porn, just like strippers, are attempting to control a situation that they couldn't control before. Whether they were raped or had sex with daddy, they're trying to put themselves back on top of the act that threw their lives asunder. The men they choose to fuck, hang out with, or marry, all become victims on their way to conquering these past violations.

Girls that go into porn often become religious zealots in later life, or write books about being 'exploited'.

Girls that go into porn should never, ever, ever be considered 'marriage material'.

Girls that go into porn are empty inside, and attempt to fill up the void of nothingness by shopping. The malls of Southern California regularly contain many of these living ghosts.

Girls that go into porn aren't really there, even when you're with them. They simply aren't comfortable in their own skin.

Girls that go into porn lack the ability to love. Loving means compromise. Relationships mean compromise. Girls that go into porn are so angry, that compromise is out of the question.

Girls that go into porn look for guys like Scott Fayner to cut deals with so they can get free advertising on an oft-viewed web site.

Guys like Scott Fayner need to learn how to keep a distance between himself and porn girls, while looking for girls who aren't lost, angry, and cynical.

In the fucked up world we live in where 'feminists' think being a prostitute or porn 'star' is a way of being independent, it's going to be pretty tough to find a girl who still values going to college, getting a responsible job, and who has moral values.

Therefore, I have a suggestion.

I'd suggest dating a teenager, who hasn't been raped or molested, who is still in high school, and marrying her in Hawaii, where the legal age of consent is 14. If you don't hurt her, you can mold her into a fine young woman who doesn't hate men, and won't go into porn.

I met my wife when she was 15, we married in Vegas when she was 16, and we've been happily married for ten years. Did I 'train her'? You bet I did. I 'trained her' to become the CEO of a major company, an amazingly honest woman, and never fucked her over. I've never cheated on her, not even once.

Just in case some of you might like to think I did something illegal, I didn't. We didn't have sex until she was 16, and her mom wrote a letter allowing her to get married in the State of Nevada. So you can all take the criticisms I know are coming and shove them directly up your assholes.

If those statements make all the porn girls mad, guess what- FUCK YOU. You've based your entire lives on your looks, and your looks will fade. Vanity is a motherfucker, y'all.

Please go to therapy instead of going into porn, young ladies. We don't need more of your dead victims laying around, just because daddy or uncle fucked you up the ass when you were 8. We, the good men of the world, aren't your daddy or uncle, we didn't do it, and we don't deserve your anger, and your selfishness.

Good luck, Scott. And make sure you buy a plane ticket to Hawaii. We'd love to hear you write about that trip.

Word to the wise. If you do happen to take up with a 14 year old in Hawaii, you can't take nude pics of them until they are either married to you, or 18, whichever comes first.

A child bride is a great way to piss off your ex, too.

Worked miracles in my case.

The Outsider

I don't like the kinder, gentler Monkey. I want more faggot stories about Fayner.

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You have to feel for the guy, he put himself right out there and heard it from the majority of readers and now it has ended, all of those readers that were against the site being turned into the taylor rain shrine are laughing at him. YET he has the balls to post about the break up despite the fact he knows he will probably get a flood of 'told you so' emails at a tough time for him. For that i applaud him. Fayner is number 1.

Please go to therapy instead of going into porn, young ladies.

..sorry, chief...can't agree with you on this one...most thereapist are more fucked up that pornographers...

We don't need more of your dead victims laying around, just because daddy or uncle fucked you up the ass when you were 8. We, the good men of the world, aren't your daddy or uncle, we didn't do it, and we don't deserve your anger, and your selfishness.

Unfortunately, there's a lotta women out side of porn who are just as angry..., but yes, this profession does seem to draw the 'cream of the crop' sometimes..

That's why I'd suggest starting with a 'clean slate'.

Girls that are angry usually go until about their mid-30's until they understand why they've been doing what they've been doing. By then, they can't have kids because of the drugs, STD's, and abortions.

People sometimes ask me if I set out to meet my wife at such a young age. I must confess, I did. I had dated strippers, hot chicks, and other nutcases before I met her, all with the same result...they all wanted to beat me down.

I didn't particularly like being beaten down, cheated on, and lied to. It made those girls feel good to do that, but it made me miserable.

So, I upset the applecart, intentionally.

I met a girl who hadn't been raped, molested, or had consensual incest...(that does happen a lot, ya know).

The reason why America enacted laws against minors having sex with adults was to guard against older men getting young girls pregnant, making them drop out of school, and denying them educations. I refused to conform to this stereotype. My wife finished high school with a gpa of 3.5 and went to college. We have also intentionally put off having a child until she's turned 30.

She's never done addictive drugs, and neither have I.

That's probably another piece of advice I'd give Scott.

Stop doing addictive drugs. And if you use pot more than twice a month, I'd say that's an addictive drug, too.

How many 'Behind the Musics' do people need to understand where coke, speed and heroin lead? Angry girls like to think they're immortal.

I tried the Scott Fayner way of doing things. It didn't work.

I, like most of you, love hot chicks.

It's just that I figured this out a long, long time ago...

...Trying to fix a girl that's broken is much harder to do than nurturing one who isn't.

After our marriage went into the fifth year, people stopped calling me names. Kinda like Chris Robinson and Kate Hudson.

Since then, those who called me those terrible things have all gotten divorced, or broke up.

Sometimes upsetting the applecart, and going against the grain, yields the best results.

However, when dating a young girl, one's intentions must be pure. Mine were. We were in love, are still in love, and we support each other, and help each other grow.

The only kind of growth a porn 'star' will give you is an inflated debt number on your maxxed out credit cards.

Food for thought.

The Outsider

True. With hundreds of girls in porn they can't all be fucked up.

Howard Stern is boring. I think he shouldn't have been forced off the air because I love free speech like all good Americans, but I don't know how he had the ratings to last this long anyway. Who the hell listens to his bullshit??

i still believe in love... i just like to fuck at lot thats all. lol

Outsider-Your way off base

OK all porn chicks are evil go out and get a little girl.
your statements don't apply to me or ANY of my frirnds.

yeah, Kami, I'm glad you also noticed the Outsider's twisted logic. Man... and the guy was coming off like such a deep caring soul. Now, he just sounds like a creepy pimp with the teenage wife he eventually "trained" to be a CEO. CEO of what? a massage parlor? phone sex company? an international child bride ring?

yeah, outsider...
im gonna say this pure and fuckin straight.

simple and blunt, your a child molester.
no more, no fuckin less... encouraging people to go out and molest children and "train" them because its better than dealing with a mature woman speaks volumes about your sexual profile...

you not even a man you his attracted to youthful looks, but someone who looks at children as sexual objects because you are so underdeveloped you cannot relate to adults.

to lay it out straight, your fucked up.

Old news. I knew about this awhile ago but it wasnt my place to say anything...

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wait a minute, i know you. Aren't you the bald guy who runs errands for that guy, for like $400 a week. Is that you?.

Outsider's a hypocritical kiddie-fucking creep. His justifications sound like a NAMBLA member. He says porn chicks are in porn because they were molested as children, yet that is exactly what he did to "train" his child bride.
Outsider, take your self-righteous, sanctiminious ass straight to fucking pedo-hell you fucking statutory rapist.

Who cares?. Girls , Women, they are all pink in the center.

Telling secrets is a great way to make new friends.

Outsider has been rehashing the some old shit over and over again. The only two subjects he has ever commented on were "his hot wife" and his crusade that all porn whores need to see the light,help new girls in the biz..etc. Boring.

Guess I hit a nerve.

Sorry, but I do happen to believe I'm correct.

Is it selfish to want to start with a clean slate?

Maybe.

But you know what?

I'm glad I did.

Watching how these porn girls turn out just proves my point.

Marriages in the double digits, multiple rehabs, cheating on guy after guy with twelve other guys, trying to make the guys they like bi or gay so they can fuck other dudes...

How many cliches must I present?

If the age of consent in Nevada is 16, and 14 in Hawaii...I say take advantage of it.

These girls who perform in these movies aren't going to be worth knowing, marrying, or even dating until they're 36.

I got what's mine...

...and I'm happy.

The rest of you fuckers can pay for your shit, and watch it walk out the door.

Jealousy sucks.

I wouldn't fuck Taylor Rain, much less buy her a damn drink. Marrying her? Gimmee a break.

I might- if I was single- teach her little sister, if she had one, the value of working hard, thinking about her future, and working her way- in an honest job- to the top of her career.

Yeah, I'm a monster.

My wife's family looks up to me as a hero, 'cuz I stepped in multiple times to stop the wayward brothers and sisters from jumping off into oblivion.

I don't give a fuck who hates me, I make a stand.

So here's my big statement, meant to piss all you ladies off, because it's absolutely fucking true...

All you women are on the wrong path. You're all trying to act like you're 14 until you're 35. Take a look at the show 'Single in Vegas' to see what I'm talking about.

Then, when you hit 35, you want the world to stop for you 'cuz you're ready to pop out a serial killer into a world that don't need no more unwanted kids.

And then...

Y'all get mad at us men, because we aren't on your timetable, and don't wanna deal with your baggage.

Well fuck you.

Try looking up to my wife, and changing your pathetic, selfish lives.

My wife worked her way to the top, worked long hours, was honest with her boss, didn't cheat on her husband, didn't get cheated on, has a credit rating of 870, and has never missed a damn day of work.

Fuck all you bitches, including Taylor Rain, again.

Live for the day...and then you all expect men to drop everything when YOU SAY it's time to get responsible.

Gloria Steniheim was the original leader of the women's movement. Gloria Steinheim knew that prostitution, which is what you are all really engaging in, is just another way of enslaving women.

You all look up to Jenna Jameson, don't you?

Well let's take a look at Ms. Jameson in 15 years.

And then, let's take a look at my wife.

I got $1,000,000,000 on the one whose life will turn out better.

Gentlemen, you can hate me for speaking the Truth, but underneath it all, you know I'm correct.

As for the ladies...

...it's too late for most of you.

So who would I rather date, if I was single, and wanted to get married...

A girl of 16 in Nevada, who still has a good attitude, doesn't hate men, and isn't trying to find out about my bank account...

Or a porn girl who has herpes, chlamydia, hepatitis C, gonnorhea, syphillis, and maybe AIDS...and who keeps changing her cell phone number every two weeks, while moving from apartment to apartment, and standing me up on dates?

Duh.

I'd date the 'clean slate', be good to her, and grow old with her gracefully.

Reforming a porn girl is nearly impossible.

You might get her out of porn, but then she'll just use sex as a weapon in another way. She'll get religion, and use the witholding of it to get married, so you can pay for her healthcare.

Clean slate wins again.

Truth hurts, ladies.

And everyone knows what a porn whore hates most...don't we?

A younger porn whore.

But who do they hate more than that?

How about Jessica Simpson.

Nick had the right idea, gentlemen.

If I wasn't married to my wife, I sure as fuck would have found a way to marry Jessica Simpson.

Taylor Rain? Gimme a break.

You can fucking rent her.

Jessica can't be bought- or rented.

If you think my logic is twisted...

...I bet all you fuckers my left toe that in ten years, Nick, who is now 30, and Jessica, who is now 21, will still be married, and I bet my right toe that I, 36, and my wife, who is 26, will still be married too.

I guess Nick's a child molester, too, huh?

How about Chris Robinson?

And what about Celine Dion and her husband?

Is he a 'molester' too?

Nope.

What we are are men who saw what was happening in America, and upset the applecart.

We knew that getting a girl while she's still a 'clean slate' is a much better bet than trying to reform a girl who was led astray by a women's movement gone haywire.

All you porn whores need to go back and study your women's history.

In this last generation, you all drove off a cliff.

You listen to Oprah, a woman who is not married, and has no children, so you can get 'advice' about how to marry and how to raise children.

What's wrong with this picture?

Is there a woman in the room who doesn't know that Oprah turned tricks when she ran away at 14, never got therapy, and can't have a truly loving relationship with a man because of it?

You all need to rethink this shit.

The smart men, such as myself, Celine Dion's husband, Nick, and Chris...

We all saw you were fucking nuts and out of bounds a long time ago...

...and we went for the 'clean slates'.

So all you porn whores...

I'll watch you all get religion, pop out a few more serial killers, and end up in the trailer parks of Riverside County since you won't be able to get housing 'cuz your credit scores are 210 and you've got mulitiple arrests on your records.

At the same time, I'll be taking my three beautiful, unmolested, well-balanced kids surfing, in a home overlooking the ocean, before my wife and I attend their PTA meeting, so we can get an idea of how they're doing in school.

We'll see who's a 'molester' then.

You ladies got mislead, and you all bought the 'big lie' of 'independence' through prostitution.

My wife could leave me at any time, and doesn't.

Why?

Because I reinforce GOOD qualities, while I stand up AGAINST bad qualities.

Don't get fucking angry at me.

I never bought into the big lie.
And I happen to believe in Gloria Steinheim.

Go to your local library, and do some research.

...or...

Take it up with Oprah.

She's the empty, barren, childless bitch who helped drive you off the cliff.

Take that and suck on it, y'all.

The Outsider

I know the smart thing is to let it go. He probably killed a porn chick and feels guilty about it so making her less human makes it ok. Or maybe he just got shot down a lot and by thinking we are sub human that makes it ok, we arn't good enough for him any ways.

I dont care about local laws 14 is too young to make healthy sexual decisions, much less chose a life partner. This is not Hawii and it is illegal here.

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"How many cliches must I present?"

that is what you are presenting by and large you are not talking about the majority of porn chicks. I guarentee that Ashley Blue, Hannah Harper,and countless others will be exactly where they want to be in 10 years and they will have done it on their own terms. unlike your wife who is sadly trapped with you because it is all she has ever known and has been trained that that is how it should be.

you said "Fuck all you bitches" real well thought out tex, no wonder you don't relate well to adults.

I know nothing any one says will change your perception of women in the porn industry, not even the women them selves. But there is nop way you are gonna lower my self esteem by your perception of me, my life or my credit rating.

ok. mr. sensitive Outsider is a women hating (at least porn star hating) cradle robbing creep who believes in Gloria stein ham the guy needs a shrink to sort it all out... my psychological assessment: fucking weirdo

agreed kami, as i said he obviously has major maturity issues. i mean look at that last post, it degenerated into nothing but childish babble. and you don't even want to know how i feel about people who judge themselves and others by credit rating.... it only just shows how sad and pathetic their lives are.... see, while i enjoy money and love having it.... money is not the reason i got into porn. if i wanted to just make money and have a good credit rating i had many scholarships.... i chose this life because it was what i wanted.

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that qutote alone speaks volumes... it shose hes got the mentality of a 12 yr old boy who comes from mike south's neck of the woods.... i wouldn't be surprised if his "wife" is also his "sister".

anyway, you have a fucked up view of porn girls, i know many girls in this business and a lot of the are very down to earth with their heads resting firmly on their shoulders, they know what they want and they know how to get it.... the only thing that pisses you off, is they don't want you.

-Mr. Fuckin' Longshot

You wouldn't buy Taylor Rain a drink? I would, but that's only because I'd have an excuse to buy myself another drink.

Kami darling...

Since my wife RUNS the company, she isn't under my 'command'. In fact, I never even call her at her work, unless it's an emergency. I trust her. Can your man trust you?

...and to Rob...

I seem to recall how many guys that regularly cheated on their wives were angrily calling for the impeachment of President Clinton. Makes me wonder about your statements.

However, I know you have to defend yourself, since your wife comes home with all that jizz on her, which ain't yours, at the end of the day. Either you like that shit, or she's got you by the balls, I say.

I bet you're gonna want to start with a clean slate, too.

Maybe Kami's got a little sister.

The Outsider

you've lost all crediability and I continue to sense the total contempt you have for porn stars yet you continue this sensitive guy charade.

Did I say I was sensitive?

I think that people who are unaware of the diseases they're going to get in porn need to be made aware of them before they go in, and I think that society should be protected, with daily testing, from the promulgation of diseases within the industry.

My problem is I refuse to be less than a man.

As for porn 'stars'...

Can't we stop using that term?

I mean, if I'm a girl who's made 100 movies, and I have no money 'cuz I've blown it all on drugs and shopping, and I need to find some guy to pay my healthcare expenses for all the diseases I now have...

...am I really a 'star'? Or, rather, am I a catastrophe?

This thread was about the results of a guy marrying a porn whore.

Here's a quote you can take to the bank...

The only thing I feel contempt for is the so-called 'leaders' of the so-called modern feminist movement. They've led you all astray, away from the original tenents. These 'Oprah's' have led you all to believe that earning a buck, even if it's the wrong way and in a way that will hurt you, is better than compromising with a dreaded man.

Hopefully, the next generation of girls will see through this misguided thinking, and get back to the original premises of the original women's movement.

Of course, they'll get to watch Jenna Jameson and Oprah move into middle age first, which will be a treat for me.

I can't wait to say, 'I told you so.'

I feel contempt for those who are selfish, have to have it their way all the time, and don't think about their futures.

Like I said before, take it up with Oprah.

Maybe since she hasn't had a divorce yet, all you women can get advice from her about that, too.

If I was a twenty year old woman, or a teenager, right now, my female hero would be Jessica Simpson.

That's a girl I can respect, and, if I wasn't married, I could love.

You ladies need to re-asess your so-called 'independence'.

It's nothing more than a charade.

Jessica Simpson is independent. And so is my wife.

And if I had met Jessica when she was 16, I would have held out, and done the same damn thing Nick did.

Or wait...isn't he just another child molester?

Bad, bad, Nick.

LOL.

The Outsider

You know this argument is baseless until you see the wife. Women can mature at different ages. She might be a fully developed 16 year old who is mature and has a good head on her shoulders. I mean look at gen padova or jenna haze they are both in their mid 20's and look 14 and 15 respectively.

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first off, i have no interest in "training" a young girl... the fault in what you say is that the republicans who were having affairs while chastizing Clinton were sexually repressed and not willing to admit they had lustful hearts. while i am a man slut who gets paid to fuck the worlds most beautiful women on camera, im honest about the things i want, and i think you are a deeply psychologically disturbed person. AND THIS IS COMING FROM A MAN WHO HAS NOTHING BUT GLEE IN HIS EYES WHEN MAKING A MILKSHAKE IN A WOMANS ASS AND WATCHING HER DRINK IT!!!!!!!

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sure thing there pal. actually i like watching my woman getting royally fucked and covered in another mans cum. i know she is getting pleasure so therefore it makes me hard. and besides that, i fuck almost as much on camera as she does, sometimes more.... so how you can say she has me by the balls is laughable on many levels.

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actually, you are very wrong. i prefer a girl who knows what she wants, not a girl who has been "trained". i like a woman who is willing to push her sexual limits and knows her own sexuality. i prefer a mature woman (not old, but an over 18, smart girl who is expierencedand already knows where her limits lie. I would take a whore over a Virgin any day, a whore knows what she wants, a whore knows how to fuck back, a whore knows how to give as well as recieve.... a virgin is unaware of herself.

maybe its not just you lack of maturity that makes you choose to molest children and not relate to those of your own age, but also a lack of sexual virility that makes you want to "train" a girl into thinking your failure in the bedroom is common because she doesnt know any better... until shes older... and then Pancho the Poolboy will be there to show her what a man is... and you will be wondering what happened when she pops out something that looks like Tony T.

im sorry, i have no respect for a child molester, especially one who will go so far as to cross state lines to commit said crime in a place where it is "legal". did you know that doing that in itself is illegal. bringing a minor across state lines for sexual purposes...
i would think differently about it if i believed you loved her, and it was one of those religious things... but "training her" to be with other women and then trying to bring her into porn... no sir, you are filth, and that is coming from a man who idolized Rob Black.

truth is though, there is no wife, there is no CEO, there is nothing more than a lonely troll sitting at his computer trying to get a rise out of people.

how sad.

"actually i like watching my woman getting royally fucked and covered in another mans cum."

Well, I guess that's where we part company.

I'll side with Nick Lachey on this one.

Us child molesters have to stick together.

Once again, I have told no lies. My wife is real, I am real, and my point of view is valid.

Exploring porn was a joint decision. We investigated it together. Unlike many others, though, we thought things through before we jumped in. And thank God we did.

Both of us realized that porn was utterly dangerous, and wouldn't become an acceptable risk until daily testing occurred.

I talked to a friend of mine recently about the latest STD outbreaks in porn, especially syphilis, which can make you nuts and make your hair fall out. Seems bi guys have picked it up and are rapidly spreading it.

Good luck with that, and your cum covered wife.

What you call fun, I call deadly, I guess.

Since you decided to make accusations, I guess I'll make some of my own.

I think YOU are endangering YOUR WIFE by allowing her to participate in an industry that only tests for AIDS once a month, and who works for companies that don't care about the results of any other STD's.

There's an interesting spin.

As for taking my wife 'across state lines'...

...nope, you fail to make hay on that point, too.

Her mother accompanied her to Las Vegas, and helped put her stuff in my place. We had her blessing, because her mom knew what I was all about.

I'm a fucking asshole when it comes to protecting people I love. Being a good mom, she liked that, and was happy to allow her daughter to marry me.

I also cared about a girl who went into porn, after I told her, wrongly, that it was 'safe', and she probably wouldn't get hurt, as she might by going to people's hotel rooms and 'dancing'.

When I found out how wrong I had been about porn, I tracked that girl down, told her the facts, which she confirmed, and she promptly left the business. That's how far I'll go to protect someone I care about. And beleive me, tracking her down wasn't easy.

Now that you've accused me of being a monster...here's my question for you...

Are you protecting your wife?

Touche.

The Outsider

Posts are getting too long, keep it short and sweet. I don't want to read a novel on ever thread, i have to read weapons of mass destruction documents for the government all day i don't want to be reading posts of the same length here.