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#177577 - 07/07/06 12:21 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Who the fuck are Bella models? Those are my pictures!
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#177578 - 07/07/06 12:26 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 911
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No one gives a shit. When do we get to see your nudes Randall?!!
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#177579 - 07/07/06 03:00 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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Who the fuck are Bella models? Those are my pictures!
I believe it's a high-priced escort agency...Luke Ford can probably fill in all the details for you.
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#177580 - 07/07/06 08:37 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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#177581 - 07/07/06 09:44 AM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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Well since this thread has already been shit in. william anime sucks and so does your posts. I hate your avatar and more importantly I hate you. You and bad_bad need to move back to the dumpster called adt and play tummy sticks with the rest of your homo friends.
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#177582 - 07/07/06 10:36 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 02/02/06
Posts: 911
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I admire your directness and abstention from clumsy attempts at wit. Your hatred sustains me. You can look forward to many more shitty posts in the future.
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#177583 - 07/07/06 10:44 AM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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I admire your directness and abstention from clumsy attempts at wit. Your hatred sustains me. You can look forward to many more shitty posts in the future.
Fuck you bitch.
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#177584 - 07/07/06 10:57 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/22/05
Posts: 324
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Bella Models is the reincarnated Nici's Girls. Its run on Mona/Nici. Need an address and number? I have it. Quote:
Who the fuck are Bella models? Those are my pictures!
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#177585 - 07/07/06 03:10 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Just got the pics back, we'll see if I even have the guts to post them... This Bella Models site is using a shitload of our pics, all different girls. They'll be getting an email from us shortly.
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#177586 - 07/07/06 04:39 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 691
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I can't believe Jacy Andrews is on that site. I thought she was a PI in her spare time.
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#177589 - 07/08/06 12:38 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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Apparently my copyright infringement guy has been trying to get them to take down our pics for a while now. And now I have to get involved, which really pisses me off. And Justine is a good friend of mine and NOT a hooker. This is what sucks about being a model-- any asshole can take your photos, put it up on a site with bogus claims, and everyone believes what they see and read. Fuckers.
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#177590 - 07/08/06 12:38 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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Check me out on Bella Models
Wow I wonder if my Dcypher knows I'm a professional whore? I guess since i can't get work doing g/g I should get paid to do privates...
Justine and Dcypher have been pimping/turning out girls into escorting for a while, so it was only a matter of time before Justine started doing it.
Does anybody else find it funny like I do that girls that don't do guys on film would escort? I can't seem to understand the logic or the thought process involved. Could it be because they think their boyfriends won't find out they are doing other guys? Don't they realize with the internet escorting will be public MUCH quicker than doing a scene which could take 6 months or more to get out? Do THEY think escorting "privately" is less "bad" than doing b/g on film? I mean my logic says doing a b/g scene would be much easier than sleeping with an "escort guy". I mean for 1 thing there is an at least somewhat controled group of guys working on film that are tested and things. There are no AIM tests with escorting. I know condoms are used, but condoms aren't 100%. Not only that, but they can break as well. If the condom an AIDS infected "escort guy" uses breaks as he's cumming. Uuuummmm 2+2=4 kids.
Let me be clear. I don't want girls that escort to be pissed at me. I'm not knocking your hustle. Make your money and all that jazz. I just can't see the logic of a g/g only girl escorting.
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#177591 - 07/08/06 12:43 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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Apparently my copyright infringement guy has been trying to get them to take down our pics for a while now. And now I have to get involved, which really pisses me off...
Holly,
This question isn't meant to be disrespectful. I'm asking it because I'm honestly curious. Aren't the girls allowed to use your photos of them? I know they use your pics on their personal websites right? Isn't their escorting endeavors their personal use as well?
Just curious as I said. Not disrespectful.
AC Cream
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#177594 - 07/08/06 02:40 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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And for a second time, Justine has nothing to do with this site and she's not thrilled about the situation, to say the least.
No disrespect intended Holly, but aren't you being just a little bit trusting here? If (as I understand to be the case) Bella Models is just a reincarnation of Nici's Girls, then it stands to reason that they will have a) the same sort of clientele and b) the same sort of employees...meaning guys who are willing to cough up $20-30,000 (and more) to spend a weekend poking their favourite Playboy Playmate or Penthouse Pet.
Here are a couple of links for you:
http://www.dazereader.com/24000731.htm http://www.adultfyi.com/read.aspx?ID=7085
I've no doubt Luke has plenty of info on it as well.
Using pictures of a girl they don't have will simply lose them valuable clients...it's not the same as some plain/frugly chick putting up pics of say, Kyla Cole or Aria Giovanni up on Craigslist and saying 'This is me!'.
When I read the initial post on this thread, my response wasn't 'That can't be true!' but more like 'Yeah, it figures'. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Can I just add that I agree with AC Cream's point about g/g only on-camera but escort off-camera girls, and thus am now taking the relevant action to remedy this condition.
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#177595 - 07/08/06 04:37 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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I didn't think Justine would take that route at all. The woman has more class than most of us porn chicks combined.
Wow!
A pornstar that can act! Justine Jolie breaks the mold. She has people believing she is "classy" and had nothing to do with Bella Models. If Justine is gonna claim this isn't legit I think I know how it all went down....
Justine and Dcypher had a fight and Dcypher called Justine a WHORE! Justine then came to the thought "if he thinks I'm a whore then let me be 1! That will teach him!" I bet the reason she is denying it now is Dcypher came crawling back crying begging her to forgive him for his insult. The question is did Justine actually do something? or was it a big show for Dcypher to get his attention.
"Aint we lucky we got em.......GOOOOOOOOD TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMES!"
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#177597 - 07/08/06 05:02 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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I thought D Cypher spent his time banging fat female sex columnists for shitty New York weeklies ...
He had to do something to get good reviews for the steaming piles of shit he craps out and calls porn.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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#177599 - 07/08/06 05:50 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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I plead ignorance of the man's oeuvre ... but Justine is awful cute.
Some people say snakes are cute, but a fucking cobra will kill your ass.
That "cute" face my friend is the face of satan. Pure fucking evil. Dcypher sold his soul to her to get his directing deal. Sure didn't get it because of his directing talent.
Dcypher Justine
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#177601 - 07/08/06 10:36 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 04/21/03
Posts: 675
Loc: Belgrade
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Actually, she doesn't look too fat -- kinda rocking that Lisa Loeb vibe.
Edited by Big Daddy Crunk (07/08/06 10:39 PM)
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#177602 - 07/08/06 10:42 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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ADT regular
Registered: 07/06/06
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she IS a whore actually
i filmed her behind the scenes and she sucked on my cock.
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#177604 - 07/09/06 12:08 AM
Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire w/ BodyMiracle
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ADT regular
Registered: 07/08/06
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Justine Jolie (who u swear isn't a hooker) is also listed on body miracles website www.bodymiracle.com? Maybe your friend needs to reveal some secrets shes been keeping from you... http://www.bodymiracle.com/default5.html
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#177607 - 07/09/06 12:36 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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Some people say snakes are cute, but a fucking cobra will kill your ass.
Hey crisco, who told you that it was okay to breath?
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#177609 - 07/09/06 07:21 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
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I just spoke to Justine and she confirmed once again that she is not an escort and she's severly pissed about this situation. Call me crazy, but I choose to believe a good friend of several years over a website that I've never heard of before that is stealing my images.
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#177610 - 07/09/06 09:12 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 137
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Who the fuck are Bella models? Those are my pictures!
The thing I got most out of this thread is Holly's ease with using the "F" word...that has got to be the hottest thing I have seen in at least 3 hours...
Seriously, Holly's tough as nails business approach to this obvious case of infringement is impressive to say the least. While at UCLA She must have read The Art of War by Sun Tzu and "Leadership Secrets of Attila The Hun's Wife, Carmilla the Cunt"....
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#177611 - 07/09/06 09:57 PM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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ADT regular
Registered: 07/08/06
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So what you are saying is your friend Justine isn't a Hooker for Bella Models only Body Miracle? On www.bodymiracle.com they show her as available now in Los Angeles and Coming Soon to New York...
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#177614 - 07/10/06 02:33 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 1176
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They're never a whore until a businessman waves five grand under their nose.
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#177615 - 07/10/06 03:42 AM
Re: Justine Jolie is a hooker for hire
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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I just spoke to Justine and she confirmed once again that she is not an escort and she's severly pissed about this situation. Call me crazy, but I choose to believe a good friend of several years over a website that I've never heard of before that is stealing my images.
Holly, do you also believe that all of the other girls listed on Body Miracle aren't hookers/escorts as well? That they're all victims of hooker identity theft?
Most of the girls on that list are known to do 'privates' on the side...it's no secret.
I'm just surprised that someone of your intelligence is allowing themself to be so easily taken in on this. Both of the sites she is listed on are known to be 'legit', it's not some typical 'bait and switch' style scheme as both Chico and I have alluded to, but rather what you see is what you get.
I always work to the axiom that 'Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is a pattern'...let me just say it is one hell of a coincidence that she should turn up on not one but two legit escort websites at the same time. Too much of a coincidence, in fact.
If you were running a high-ticket escort agency, would you put up a listing for a girl you don't have and risk losing clients to the competition? Would you put up a listing for a girl you had never met and discussed business with (bearing in mind that without a face-to-face meeting, it could be either some fat ugly chick trying to pass themselves off as Playmate of the Month or perhaps a jealous ex-boyfriend trying to ruin a particular girl's reputation)?
No, you wouldn't, and I don't think these guys have done it either. As for the theft of your photos...why haven't they got pics of Aria Giovanni up on their site, or some other models you've shot that are hotter/more popular than Justine (no offence intended to her by that remark)? Because they don't work that way. Whilst it is undeniable that they are using your images without your permission, I doubt they went out and stole your images, moreover they had them provided to them by the person in question.
Don't let your heart govern your head on this one, otherwise you could well end up with egg on your face.
In closing, let us remember above all the XPT motto: 'Whores Lie'
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#177616 - 07/10/06 05:18 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/12/06
Posts: 52
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Holly, do you also believe that all of the other girls listed on Body Miracle aren't hookers/escorts as well? That they're all victims of hooker identity theft?
Attention all pornstars.... Be careful. You don't want to find yourself caught up in the new crime sweeping porn valley.... H.I.T. (Hooker Identity Theft)
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why haven't they got pics of Aria Giovanni up on their site, or some other models you've shot that are hotter/more popular than Justine
Good point. There are MUCH hotter females than Justine that if they were going to bother to lie about that would get them more attention.
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Don't let your heart govern your head on this one, otherwise you could well end up with egg on your face.
Yes that egg is quite nasty too. I can speak from experience. "She's my friend and told me she would never do that" Here are 2 sayings to go with that.... "Never say never" and "Don't believe everything you hear"(especially from whores).
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In closing, let us remember above all the XPT motto: 'Whores Lie'
If said XPT motto is true. If a whore is twice advertised does that mean she lies twice as much?
A whore deserves a good
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#177618 - 07/10/06 09:20 AM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
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Whilst it is undeniable that they are using your images without your permission, I doubt they went out and stole your images, moreover they had them provided to them by the person in question.
Bullshit. They have our pics of Randi Wright, Claudia Chase, Kendra Jade, Kimberly Franklin, Teri Weigel, Paola Rey, Melissa Lauren, and Justine. None of those girls have access to those images, and Justine of all people knows she can't use content we paid her for. I find it a hell of a coincidence that those girls all happened to submit Suze Randall photos when none of them have the images. Yeah sure, they could have joined the site and downloaded them, but again, that's a hell of coincidence. Also our copyright mark on the bottom right has been conveniently cropped out.
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#177619 - 07/10/06 10:58 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/09/06
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1) I am now actively interested in this thread, as i wait to leave, I hope Holly says/types "Fuck" or "Fuckers", or use "Fucking" in her next post. 2) Regarding the "Bait and Swtich" tactic of Escort Agencies.....it is unfortunately all too common, which is why i have not used an Agency in a long time. It's easy to understand though from the business' perspective, and you have to remember the nature of the business itself...customers (johns) do not have any recourse except to NOT use a agency again if they are truly dissatisfied, and most of them are embarrassed or ashamed somewhat of the whole sordid experience...very few Johns are like me who throw shame, self respect and money out the window when I reach the crisis point of having a raging hardon and HAVING to stick it into some semi-attractive (or better) human female orifice. It goes like this: A SUPER HORNY/LONELY guy calls the agency number and a sexy female voice immediately disarms him with a "How are you baby? What can I do for you?" So now the super horny, lonely guy asks for specifically the star of his choice that he saw listed so enticingly using the one and only, Most Erotic Woman in Porn, Holly Randall's pictures. The sexy voice says, "oh I am sorry baby, she's not available BUT I do have a really gorgeous sexy Blond/Redhead/Brunette named Drea (or Vanessa, or Veronica, or Samantha...nothing too far fetched like "Desdemona" or "Fairuza") Who can be out to see you in 45 MINUTES or less and for a little less than our normal fee." They are banking on the fact that the guy probably is sitting nude on his hotel bed, OR...at his desk in his office playing with his hardon through his dress pants and NOT doing the charts for the staff meeting, OR... in his home on the couch that he watches 20/20 with his wife, and that he is playing with himself while talking on the phone and will invariably say "YES" to the sexy Voice's suggestion of a subsitution. It's all about Impulse buying and not letting go until you have the sale. A GREAT salesperson like Gia Jordan would know exactly what i am talking about. Personally, the ENTIRE concept of paying through the nose for Porn star outcall experiences baffles me when even MORE gorgeous, REAL, non-infamous women are avalable at normally exorbitant escort fees (Big difference between paying 750 bucks an hour for a complete goddess and 1500 bucks an hour for a shot out porn chick doused in makeup when she appears on film. Like I have said many times, TRULY beautiful, gorgeous women DO NOT need to do Porn....) Besides, Using a sweet, wonderful photographer like Holly Randall and taking advantage of her work to perpetrate such frauds upon unsuspecting perverts and desperate people is despicable. Me, i'd rather engage in the probably fruitless, but still exhilrating pursuit of trying to get HOLLY RANDALL herself to come to my Hotel room and play the On-demand Video Games like Super Mario Brothers ... I would not need to have sex with her, just watching Holly work the video game controls and joystick would be stimulating enough for me. I wonder what Holly would charge me for that???
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#177621 - 07/10/06 01:16 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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Whilst it is undeniable that they are using your images without your permission, I doubt they went out and stole your images, moreover they had them provided to them by the person in question.
Bullshit. They have our pics of Randi Wright, Claudia Chase, Kendra Jade, Kimberly Franklin, Teri Weigel, Paola Rey, Melissa Lauren, and Justine. None of those girls have access to those images, and Justine of all people knows she can't use content we paid her for. I find it a hell of a coincidence that those girls all happened to submit Suze Randall photos when none of them have the images. Yeah sure, they could have joined the site and downloaded them, but again, that's a hell of coincidence. Also our copyright mark on the bottom right has been conveniently cropped out.
No, you're right, that is too much of a coincidence, so you should definitely go after them for the illegal/unauthorised use of your images.
But, getting back to the point, do you also believe that none of the above aforementioned girls escort and are (by coincidence) victims of the exact same set of circumstances which have aparently befallen Justine? Like I say, it seems inconceivable that she could appear on two 'legit' escort sites by accident....
By the way Holly, I wouldn't be too surprised if they did all choose to submit pics from the House of Randall. You and your mum are the best at what you do, after all, and whilst it's probably of scant consolation to you at this moment in time, I think you should consider it something of a backhanded compliment that they decided to steal your images as opposed to someone else's....but you should still drop the hammer on them anyway, just as a point of principle!
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#177622 - 07/10/06 01:46 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 07/20/03
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Regarding the "Bait and Swtich" tactic of Escort Agencies.....it is unfortunately all too common, which is why i have not used an Agency in a long time. It's easy to understand though from the business' perspective, and you have to remember the nature of the business itself...customers (johns) do not have any recourse except to NOT use a agency again if they are truly dissatisfied, and most of them are embarrassed or ashamed somewhat of the whole sordid experience...very few Johns are like me who throw shame, self respect and money out the window when I reach the crisis point of having a raging hardon and HAVING to stick it into some semi-attractive (or better) human female orifice. It goes like this:
A SUPER HORNY/LONELY guy calls the agency number and a sexy female voice immediately disarms him with a "How are you baby? What can I do for you?" So now the super horny, lonely guy asks for specifically the star of his choice that he saw listed so enticingly using the one and only, Most Erotic Woman in Porn, Holly Randall's pictures. The sexy voice says, "oh I am sorry baby, she's not available BUT I do have a really gorgeous sexy Blond/Redhead/Brunette named Drea (or Vanessa, or Veronica, or Samantha...nothing too far fetched like "Desdemona" or "Fairuza") Who can be out to see you in 45 MINUTES or less and for a little less than our normal fee."
They are banking on the fact that the guy probably is sitting nude on his hotel bed, OR...at his desk in his office playing with his hardon through his dress pants and NOT doing the charts for the staff meeting, OR... in his home on the couch that he watches 20/20 with his wife, and that he is playing with himself while talking on the phone and will invariably say "YES" to the sexy Voice's suggestion of a subsitution. It's all about Impulse buying and not letting go until you have the sale. A GREAT salesperson like Gia Jordan would know exactly what i am talking about.
Personally, the ENTIRE concept of paying through the nose for Porn star outcall experiences baffles me when even MORE gorgeous, REAL, non-infamous women are avalable at normally exorbitant escort fees (Big difference between paying 750 bucks an hour for a complete goddess and 1500 bucks an hour for a shot out porn chick doused in makeup when she appears on film. Like I have said many times, TRULY beautiful, gorgeous women DO NOT need to do Porn....)
When I owned a escort agency, I got my pictures from a local photo broker. As long as the model relases where signed, it was all good.
Horny dudes dont really care as long as the girl is as close to the picture as possible.
I agree with Burg. If I was paying for it, I'll use erosguide.com rather than shellout for a pornchick.
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