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#174197 - 06/17/06 02:23 AM OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
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...Of my friend "Roxy", an exceptionally beautiful and tragic escort I knew in Vegas in the Mid 1990s. I wrote Luke late last year about my experience with Roxy, and her life's tragic experience, in response to Jack Sheehan's Book SKIN CITY, which tends to unrealistically, and distortingly portray the Sex Industry as exceptionally positive, all "Puppies, Bunnies and 100 dollar bills and diamond earrings."

It seems Roxy passed away last October...I just found out about it when another former friend of Roxy's wrote Luke about her death. It seems Roxy's addiction to pills (especially Xanax) ultimately did her in....she choked to death in her sleep after vomiting from taking too many Xanax and possible drinking booze.

This was one of the defining periods and experiences of my life, back in the mid 1990s, when I met and developed a relationship with Roxy. You can go to Luke's site and research my story to get the full background and details, but for now, suffice it to say that Roxy was one of Vegas' best known Escorts of the mid to late 1990s, and her life was anything but glamorous and successful, as Jack Sheehan's BOOK would have you believe such lives typically are...

Roxy often made in excess of $250k per year, and this working only 3-4 days a week (since she was actually married with a couple children.) She easily could have cleared $350k or more if she worked 5 days a week and without distractions. But Roxy suffered from a acute addiction to pills, particularly anti-anxiety medications like Xanax and Valium (with some abuse of pain pills like Percocet as well.) She also consumed alchohol excessively....

When I said and referred to a "defining moment" above, I mean it. One of the single most powerful, and scary moments of my life came one time when I was with Roxy during a visit in my hotel room. After finishing our session, Roxy had just counted out 3 or 4 individual, 1 (one) milligram tablets of Xanax in her hand and was about to swallow them down before going to her next outcall appointment...she turned to me and stared (basically tearfully) into my eyes and said "You could offer me a million dollars and I could not give up pills..." I was speechless after that....Roxy often told me (in great detail and to great extent) the role that Xanax played in her life...she told me how it calmed her down to a point where she "did not care about what others thought of her, she did not need approval, nor feared disapproval, and she said that the drug essentially turned OFF her moral/sexual conscience...it allowed her to allow complete strangers to do what they wanted to her body, in order for her to get paid...she liked sex, but this allowed her to do things in such a way, and to such a degree that she would NOT normtally do them except for the fact that the drug now allowed her to do that..." I found this scary, and credible...many of the anecdotal accounts of people that I have heard who use drugs like Valium and Xanax report such similar experience. In fact, in Roxy's case, she said she was able to "Lose herself" in the sexual action with her clients, to become the absolute "Slut" and "Dirty, filthy whore" that her clients wanted, because of the drug. Xanax allowed her to be a super whore, complete with the attitude, and energy during sex, and even the words that come out of her mouth were facilitated by the drug. She said she was NOT like that at all when not on the drug (or not on such a high dose.)

Well, Whether one blames Xanax, or Vegas itself or the abusive stepfather Roxy had as a girl who raped her, the life she lived as an escort was anything but glamorous. And, at 38 years old and still in great shape physically despite the slight case of death she now has, Roxy is a prime example of the TRAGIC life the Sex Industry (Escort/Porn/Stripping) can embody and facilitate.

R.I.P. babe....

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#174198 - 06/18/06 12:13 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
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Well, Whether one blames Xanax, or Vegas itself or the abusive stepfather Roxy had as a girl who raped her, the life she lived as an escort was anything but glamorous.





Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?
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#174199 - 06/18/06 12:23 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
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Well, Whether one blames Xanax, or Vegas itself or the abusive stepfather Roxy had as a girl who raped her, the life she lived as an escort was anything but glamorous.





Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?




You are entitled to your view of things william....while obviously I was a "john", I take issue with being called insensitive, I didnt subsidize her addiction and in fact, often tried to get her help, and I myself didnt pay her to be a "dirty filthy whore"....those were, in fact her words, and it is possible there was a part of her that wanted to be treated like that, maybe even got off on it...how many times do we hear the chicks in Porn today, 18-22 yr olds, claiming they get off on the degradation they receive. We even hear them ask, in their films, "Treat me like a slut, like a filthy dirty fucking whore that I am..."

I am trying to be unhypocritical in my hypocrisy...
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#174200 - 06/18/06 12:42 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
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Registered: 04/14/06
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Come on. We all know that to "consume" porn, or escorts or really any product or service means that we subsidize it. I'm not saying it's right or wrong-that's a matter of individual conscience. Let's just agree that by buying/renting porn and buying/renting escorts that we are both endorsing and subsidizing this industry. Even Duke, the pinnacle of hypocrisy, talks about the evils of porn and the damage it causes while making cash from the links on his page.
I can't say I've taken the high ground either. The struggle between my morals/conscience and my lust/appreciation for the female form is what drives my interest in this industry in the first place. If punching the clown was all that porn meant to any of us, we wouldn't spend our time in these forums...and we'd be the poorer for it.
So I'm as conflicted as the next guy. Why can't we all just own up to that dichotomy?
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#174201 - 06/18/06 01:31 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Willie D Offline

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Registered: 09/20/05
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Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?


Coming from a guy who has 450 MySpace friends, the vast majority of whom seem to be involved in pornography, I'll spare you the response I want to post, and just consider you every bit the hypocrite you consider Mr. Marburglar. You think you are so superior to the rest of us? Quit being an enabler to the female performers, maybe make your only friend the JC's Girls.

Wait, wait, I see the response coming..."I'm better than you. I don't watch porn or pay for lap dances or buy hookers." That's what you want to say, right?

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#174202 - 06/18/06 09:02 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
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Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?


Coming from a guy who has 450 MySpace friends, the vast majority of whom seem to be involved in pornography, I'll spare you the response I want to post, and just consider you every bit the hypocrite you consider Mr. Marburglar. You think you are so superior to the rest of us? Quit being an enabler to the female performers, maybe make your only friend the JC's Girls.

Wait, wait, I see the response coming..."I'm better than you. I don't watch porn or pay for lap dances or buy hookers." That's what you want to say, right?




I certainly would be a hypocrite if I ranted endlessly about the morally corrosive effects of pornography... but I don't. Nor will I ever. I like watching porn, I like beating off to it, and I've never wasted a second of my lonely, crank-yanking existence feeling guilty about it or worrying about the emotional welfare of the performers. We all make choices -although granted, some are made under duress- but no one is holding a gun to our heads. If Burg or anyone else finds pornography so damn repugnant, and thinks the industry is to blame for the moral decay of society, and that the performers are in fact innocent "victims"... then quit whining, and stop supporting it with your patronage. Stop being a part of the problem.
Personally I don't see a problem, but you wont hear me condemning the industry.
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#174203 - 06/18/06 09:16 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Hyde Offline
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Well, Whether one blames Xanax, or Vegas itself or the abusive stepfather Roxy had as a girl who raped her, the life she lived as an escort was anything but glamorous.





Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?




You are entitled to your view of things william....while obviously I was a "john", I take issue with being called insensitive, I didnt subsidize her addiction and in fact, often tried to get her help, and I myself didnt pay her to be a "dirty filthy whore"....those were, in fact her words, and it is possible there was a part of her that wanted to be treated like that, maybe even got off on it...how many times do we hear the chicks in Porn today, 18-22 yr olds, claiming they get off on the degradation they receive. We even hear them ask, in their films, "Treat me like a slut, like a filthy dirty fucking whore that I am..."

I am trying to be unhypocritical in my hypocrisy...




Burg, I certainly didn't mean to imply that you were yourself insensitive. That was a poor choice of words on my part, and I appologize. But I did find it comical, and more than a little ironic that, even while you lamented the horrible degradation this woman had to endure in her chosen profession... that still didn't prevent you from paying her for her services. By your own analysis, that just makes you one more factor contributing to her downfall.
You obviously weren't insensitive to her situation, or you never would have felt moved to write about it. The hypocrisy is obvious, but so is your internal conflict over this issue.
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#174204 - 06/18/06 10:01 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Da Burglar Offline
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Registered: 01/02/05
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Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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Well, Whether one blames Xanax, or Vegas itself or the abusive stepfather Roxy had as a girl who raped her, the life she lived as an escort was anything but glamorous.





Maybe we should blame the insensitive Johns who subsidized her addiction, and paid her to feel like a "dirty, filthy whore"?... Oh wait, that was YOU wasn't it?




You are entitled to your view of things william....while obviously I was a "john", I take issue with being called insensitive, I didnt subsidize her addiction and in fact, often tried to get her help, and I myself didnt pay her to be a "dirty filthy whore"....those were, in fact her words, and it is possible there was a part of her that wanted to be treated like that, maybe even got off on it...how many times do we hear the chicks in Porn today, 18-22 yr olds, claiming they get off on the degradation they receive. We even hear them ask, in their films, "Treat me like a slut, like a filthy dirty fucking whore that I am..."

I am trying to be unhypocritical in my hypocrisy...




Burg, I certainly didn't mean to imply that you were yourself insensitive. That was a poor choice of words on my part, and I appologize. But I did find it comical, and more than a little ironic that, even while you lamented the horrible degradation this woman had to endure in her chosen profession... that still didn't prevent you from paying her for her services. By your own analysis, that just makes you one more factor contributing to her downfall.
You obviously weren't insensitive to her situation, or you never would have felt moved to write about it. The hypocrisy is obvious, but so is your internal conflict over this issue.





Ummm No. What she chooses to do with her money is out of my control. What if I was a stranger (or not) buying her corvette, paying her 10 grand in cash for a car worth MUCH MORE THAN THAT, because she was desperate and needed $$$, and she promptly took the wad of 10k and bought a pile of Cocaine and Xanax and locked herself in a motel room and died three days later? Your logic, and application of my own "moral quandry" is flawed...

I paid her for a lot of things/services, or flat out gave her money, and often times sex was NOT one of them...If I paid her 1000 bucks for her to simply accompany me to a Formal Dinner and then to an after party, where all we did was make out (no sex), and then she blows that money on drugs, wtf have I consciously done to feel guilty about?

There is a guy taking a hott stripper out on a date on her night off in Vegas right now...the guy is not paying for the stripper's time since it is a date the stripper wants to go on, but he will blow 150 bucks on dinner, another 100 on drinks (if he's dumb, afterall its vegas) and then he takes her back to his apartment or room, cuts up a bunch of lines and offers them to her...she snorts, fucks him silly then gran mals before she can pop the Valium or Xanax and croaks while his cum is still dripping out from her pussy. What is he guilty of ....? Answer: plenty but you see my point right?


You have exagerated and misinterpreted my supposed "moral outrage" with porn and my concern for the performers that I have expressed in other threads ... and overlooked my sarcasm and satire which is usually present. This is XPT, a porn board and everything should be taken with a grain of salt. Especially my shit...

I feel bad about this woman's death...I do not feel guilty or responsible anymore than I am responsible for the Iraqis being killed with bullets my money paid for.
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#174205 - 06/18/06 10:38 PM Re: OBITUARY: LukeisBack Reports Death...
Hyde Offline
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I feel bad about this woman's death...I do not feel guilty or responsible anymore than I am responsible for the Iraqis being killed with bullets my money paid for.





As I said, from my point of view you shouldn't feel guilty about anything. So if you thought I was somehow blaming you for her death... then you missed my point entirely. You could only be accused of complicity in her misfortune and decline if one began with the belief that the emotional instability that lead to her addiction and death, was directly related to her profession... in which you were a willing client. But since I dont subscribe to that belief, you can consider yourself exonerated in my eyes Burg.
Sorry I didn't see the obvious satire in your charming and whimsical dead hooker story.
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