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#169854 - 05/29/06 02:41 AM
The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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We all know how the straight porn industry discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies. And yet it allows female-female interactions to co-exist with the heterosexual ones. Talk about sleazy double standards. In real life, there are tons of bisexual men, so start including them in the movies.
Honestly, any woman who participates in this selectively homophobic industry is doing a disservice to the notion of fairness and justice in depictions of human sexuality. Are you really that desperate for drugs, ladies?
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#169855 - 05/29/06 02:52 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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i'm calling you out marc wallice!!!! no dude registers as a chick AND focuses on a shrill campaign of anti-fun about HIV. we've already got our token fake female posters, you'll have to wait for david to leave.
if you want to lecture us and be serious, please let me stab you with 100 needles i found on the streets of fire island and weho.
if you're going to complain about hiv here, we expect you to contract it first. or admit you're marc wallice.
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#169857 - 05/29/06 03:17 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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pornactor, why do directors and producers and people who work in real porn ignore you?
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#169858 - 05/29/06 03:33 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/06/05
Posts: 147
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pornactor, why do directors and producers and people who work in real porn ignore you?
speak for yourself; and you don't ignore me
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#169859 - 05/29/06 03:55 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
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how could i ignore anything as HILARIOUS as "i'm hung and have a yahoo address, here's a picture of me with money in my pants smoking a cigar like suge knight in sunglasses. OH, BY THE WAY I WON'T TELL YOU MY FILM CREDITS OR STAGE NAME!"
dude, craigslist. try craigslist. craigslist is for free email addy's, sunglasses and hiding your identity.
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#169860 - 05/29/06 06:31 AM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
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"discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies."
You do know the definition of straight right? Most girls who consider themselves straight still at some point have encounters with other women. Most straight men do not. As much as you'd like it to be they aren't the same thing.
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#169863 - 05/29/06 08:56 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Lance69,
And where did you get your information from? From female porn skags who are encouraged and paid to practise bisexuality for the purpose of pleasing sleazy straight guys? Looks like it.
Face it - male bisexuality is a simple biological fact. No amount of denial by straight porn dimwads is going to change that fact. You scuzzbuckets in the straight porn industry have a gall to deny the existence of male bisexuality. Almost all of you are pathetic losers with the IQ of rancid cabbage.
Edited by kate (05/29/06 08:57 AM)
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#169864 - 05/29/06 09:05 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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sooperprizz,
I don't give a rat's patootie about your personal preference and fetishes. Whatever turns you on, turns you on.
I'm specifically railing against the selectively homophobic philosophy of the straight porn industry. This philosophy bans any male-male contact whatsoever. Talk about laughable. This is an industry which makes movies that contain both men and women but which specifically prevents the men from touching each other. Don't expect me to come to your aid when the government cracks down on you. I hope you get zilch support from the gay community.
You cry foul when districts and states ban you, yet you yourselves ban the male-male interaction. You're a bunch of hypocritical creeps who deserve everything that comes your way.
Edited by kate (05/29/06 09:15 AM)
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#169865 - 05/29/06 09:15 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
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Got my info from every girl in high school who were so arrow straight, then to my surprise I married one of them and my wife has fucked more of those so called straight women than men. And that's saying something. Not to mention 2 years in the industry has given me quite enough access to women who are more attracted and prefer working with women. Male Bi-sexuality is a fact, no one said it wasn't Nonuts! but it is not anywhere near commonplace as bi-females. As said before most hetero Porn is made for men, and they like girl/girl. And so do most women who like porn. You think we're hating on Bi's and Gays but you the one who called us rancid cabbage for not agreeing with your bullshit. It's about selling the product to the consumer, and that's what the consumer wants. Sorry about the hypocrisy caused by your apparent brain damage. 
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#169866 - 05/29/06 09:24 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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lance69,
You're confusing biological facts with the views you have adopted as a result of being involved with the straight porn industry. Biological facts say that male bisexuality is common - in fact, Alfred Kinsey found that more than 50% of men have had same-sex feelings at some stage in their lives. I would rather go by what Kinsey says than by what you say.
As for women wanting to watch female-female action over male-male action, where did you get this from? I have no firm figures myself but, if you go by the number of women who watched Brokeback Mountain just for the kissing scenes, I'd say there's a lot of women who like to watch hot guy-on-guy action.
If you want to have credibility, take my advice: stop pulling assertions out of your ass.
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#169867 - 05/29/06 09:26 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Lance 69,
By the way, the porn consumer is not indicative of the American public as a whole.
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#169869 - 05/29/06 09:42 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 02/18/05
Posts: 1138
Loc: British Colombia
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Lance 69,
By the way, the porn consumer is not indicative of the American public as a whole.
Who the fuck do you think we are selling too, straight porn is homophobic because it sells a straight related product? Does that mean gay porn discriminates because they don't put straight scenes in thier movies? There is porn for both gay and straight, when did society come into it. Lets take one issue at a time, as I'm sure you have many.
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#169870 - 05/29/06 09:45 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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kate's a gay/bisexual man. if i had to put money on the identity, it's "arthur" from adt who pulled the same schtick until it became so ill-reasoned and grating they canned him.
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Martin Amis "honoring" katie price with a character bearing some of her traits
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#169871 - 05/29/06 10:37 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 07/14/04
Posts: 62
Loc: porn valley
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#169873 - 05/29/06 07:02 PM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/09/05
Posts: 1291
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Quote:
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We all know how the straight porn industry discriminates agains bisexual men by refusing to include male-male interactions in straight porn movies.
This is a ludicrous statement. Add a trance rave score to any "straight" bukkake or gangbang production and the fallacy of your argument will come into vivid relief. 
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#169875 - 05/30/06 05:49 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Paul Reubens,
I'm going to make sure that male-male interactions are represented in straight porn. If you don't like it, go share your frustrations with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I'm sure they're on your homophobic wavelength.
You sleazy pieces of crud think that you can determine our sexual culture with your selectively homophobic straight porn ethos. Well, I'm here to say "no". I will not allow you to lie and misreperesnt human sexuality for the sake of a hit of crack cocaine.
Oh, and did I also mention that you should go and fuck yourself?
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#169877 - 05/30/06 06:19 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Paul Reubens,
I'm going to make sure that male-male interactions are represented in straight porn. If you don't like it, go share your frustrations with Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson. I'm sure they're on your homophobic wavelength.
You sleazy pieces of crud think that you can determine our sexual culture with your selectively homophobic straight porn ethos. Well, I'm here to say "no". I will not allow you to lie and misreperesnt human sexuality for the sake of a hit of crack cocaine.
Oh, and did I also mention that you should go and fuck yourself?
Kate
bisexual porn is it's own genre. Straight men don't enjoy watching men kissing or having sex with other men. Since straight men purchase straight porn, they generally are the demographic most producers listen to.
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#169878 - 05/30/06 06:32 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 05/01/06
Posts: 502
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I've fucked both types of assholes in my day. Men's are actually an inferior assfucking experience, largely because all men, even homosexual men, are trained from birth in society to withhold emotional outbursts. So homo's are, quite frankly, lousy assfucks. That's why I'm straight now...a woman screams so much louder and gives you so much more pleasure when she squirms her ass around your prick. I don't have any issues with homosexuals, but they are clearly settling on second-best when it comes to the best fucking to be had on the planet. Fine by me, more woman-ass available for the taking with them concentrating on each other and such a patently inferior sexual experience.
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#169879 - 05/30/06 06:36 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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have2cit,
Straight porn is already bisexual porn. It features female bisexual activity along with the heterosexual activity. And saying that only straight men purchase straight porn is simply circular logic and avoids the issue.
It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn. The total ban as it exists now simply has to go. I will embarrass this industry if I have to.
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#169880 - 05/30/06 06:39 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Painful,
To each his own. Whatever turns you on, turns you on. I'm not arguing against the right to have a personal preference.
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#169882 - 05/30/06 07:40 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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have2cit,
Straight porn is already bisexual porn. It features female bisexual activity along with the heterosexual activity. And saying that only straight men purchase straight porn is simply circular logic and avoids the issue.
It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn. The total ban as it exists now simply has to go. I will embarrass this industry if I have to.
Kate
There is no circular logic involved here. It's capitalism at it's finest. Supply and demand at it's most basic. Most straight men enjoy watching women having sex and don't find it detestable in the least. If there are people who enjoy seeing male on male action there is bi-sexual porn just for that, also if people want to see trannies they have their own genre as well. Don't mix my porn or (like most men) I simply won't buy it. If you want to see certain things in porn there is always someone who will cater to your fetish, so don't worry.
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#169884 - 05/30/06 11:36 AM
Re: The straight porn industry is homophobic
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Porn Icon
Registered: 02/04/05
Posts: 3499
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It's my ardent view that there is a large pool of people who would like to see a bit of male bisexual (or even semi-bi) activity here and there in their straight porn.
If such videos were as desirable as you suggest, they would be commonplace on the store shelves. I just don't think the market for them is as demanding as you think, or would like to think. Prove us wrong, get a camera and do your thing. If your hunch is right, you'll make money and have your vindication. Man up! 
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#169886 - 05/31/06 06:49 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Chico,
Gay male porn doesn't pretend to be anything other than what it claims to be. In contrast, "straight" porn wants to be straight and a little bit homosexual by including girl-girl scenes but not guy-guy scenes. Straight porn is the only medium to ban the male-male interaction in movies that contain both men and women.
I would compare straight porn's banning of male-male contact to what you see in many swingers clubs. Many of these clubs ban men from interacting sexually with each other, but allow male-female and female-female contact. So, even if the male member of a heterosexual couple is bisexual, he is prevented from interacting with another male. Same sleazy philosophy any way you look at it.
Edited by kate (05/31/06 06:52 AM)
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#169887 - 05/31/06 07:05 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Kate,
you're changing your argument to encompass swing clubs now? Don't drift. What ever agenda you have about male - male activity in straight porn, is just that, your agenda, your taste, and it doesn't represent the overwhelming majority of the straight male porn buyer. You have about as much chance at seeing male - male sex in straight porn as meth being legalized has.
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#169888 - 05/31/06 07:36 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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have2cit,
You just can't accept that I have a valid point in comparing the selective homophobia of the straight porn industry to that of swingers clubs. It's the same thing, so face it.
Meanwhile, let me add that fleeting male-male contact is already present in some of the straight porn movies made by Rocco Siffredi. In some of his releaseas, I've seen two men having a cock-fight, a man holding another man's penis which is lodged in a woman's vagina, a male-on-male blowjob etc etc. Rocco's movies sell like hotcakes, so that disproves your notion that there are masses who oppose it.
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#169889 - 05/31/06 07:56 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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have2cit,
You just can't accept that I have a valid point in comparing the selective homophobia of the straight porn industry to that of swingers clubs. It's the same thing, so face it.
Meanwhile, let me add that fleeting male-male contact is already present in some of the straight porn movies made by Rocco Siffredi. In some of his releaseas, I've seen two men having a cock-fight, a man holding another man's penis which is lodged in a woman's vagina, a male-on-male blowjob etc etc. Rocco's movies sell like hotcakes, so that disproves your notion that there are masses who oppose it.
I admit no point because you posses none. You have an agenda not a point. You say I should be ashamed because I don't want to see gay male sex in my porn. Well I am not. You say the porn industry is discriminatory, I say they provide product based on economics rather than any sexual preference. If a majority of straight males decided they wanted to see that shit in straight porn, a product would be there to fill the need, plain and simple.
Please tell me which Rocco movies they are so I can put them on my never watch list, but I am not surprised it's a Rocco movie anyway. 
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#169891 - 05/31/06 08:10 AM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 624
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I don't consider myself homophobic and I don't like to see guys kiss on television much less ass banging each other in porn.
Don't they make Bi-sex movies?
I like Girl-Girl action, I think women are attractive and can understand the attraction to females. Men are fat, smelly, hairy, with beer guts who burp, fart, etc.. I can't understand why women are attracted to men at all, but I thank God that they are.
Can't you go rent Bi-Sex Porn and leave the Girl-Girl, B/G Porn fans alone?
You can be a Bi-guy, you can be a gay-guy for all I care, but why should I have to see you indulge in your peccadillo's if I don't want to see it? I don't want to deny you the right to smoke hoagie or get drilled in your anus, why do you want to force me to see it? I don't want to see it, if you force me to see it, I then might decide to try and deny you your right to swallow more semen than the Bermuda triangle because I don't want to see it. I don't find men attractive and I think that seeing men ass bang each other won't suddenly make men more attractive to me, or make me think that gay sex is something I want to watch. What gives you the right to force me to see something I don't want to see.
So what if it's Straight Porn is Homophobic, I like it that way. Frankly I'm not big on watching women get ass banged, I've run into a couple females that wanted it in the pooper and I obliged them, but it wasn't my particular cup of tea.
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#169892 - 05/31/06 09:06 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 04/06/05
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The straight porn industry is homophobic? No fuckin shit lady, there's a reason its called straight porn!  Go grab a spoon bitch and eat out of some faggots ass 
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#169895 - 05/31/06 02:41 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 05/01/06
Posts: 502
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I've yet to see a "mission statement" from the porn industry that proclaims itself to be "pro-straight" or "pro-bisexual" or pro-anything other than money. Porn is about making money. Of COURSE they discriminate based on that basis....why spend money publishing/producing something that doesn't make money? Hell, I'm VERY discriminatory in how I spend my money, aren't you?
Porn doesn't need a mission statement...it's not a statement, it's an industry. You can point your self-righteous finger wherever you want, but unless you've got someone who states in this industry that "porn is for everyone!" then your entire views are wholly without merit.
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#169896 - 05/31/06 02:49 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 03/01/04
Posts: 105
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This has to be the most idiotic thread I have seen in this biz.
Where the fuck do you get off saying we are homophobic? People want to see BG they rent BG. People want GG they rent a GG flick... or maybe one that has both. They want to see BB, they rent a BB video. Where is the phobia?
Am I homophob because I freak out when some dude grabs my ass in a club and I get pissed at him. NO... it's something I don't like or care for.
It's like black male talent given white girls shit for not doing interacial, but then the guy refuses to work with any black girls. Is he racist? No... it's what he likes.
I don't get bent when I go to see a comedy and there are no bloody tortureous scenes in there. Why? Because I would go see a fucking horror film if I wanted to see horror!
I mean what the fuck. I seriously think this is a troll thread and has no actually merit to it.
Ok so to make your heterophobia ass think everything is A-OTAY... all films should have BG, GG, BB, slapping, vomiting, feltching with crazy straw, cum fart cocktails, bukkake, spoon feeding with cum, bondage, toys on machines, etc.... just so everything is under one roof.
Your threat of bringing the industry down and us getting shafted because we have no BB scenes in a non BB market is almost laughable at best. Do your best... we will all still be here.
Bottom line. If there was REALLY a demand for BB in BG/GG lines... it would be done. Obviously that is not the case.
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#169899 - 05/31/06 05:19 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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You know full well that the straight porn industry is a selectively homophobic industry. No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. And how do you know only "straight" guys purchase "straight" porn? Did you do a little survey? Where are your figures? I reckon you're all pulling assertions out of your large colons.
The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go. I'm planning to break down barriers, whether you like it or not.
Edited by kate (05/31/06 05:21 PM)
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#169900 - 05/31/06 05:31 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 12/06/05
Posts: 1135
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"The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go."
If there's male-male contact then it's GAY.
I'm not paying money to see two guys cross swords.
It's like buying a DVD with Naomi and Gianna on the cover and finding Jeanie Marie and Pamela Peaks inside.
If that's your thing, god bless you, but don't expect the rest of us to get on board the homo train cause that's your thing.
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#169902 - 05/31/06 05:41 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/23/06
Posts: 193
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Sonny Chiba,
Who said you would have to watch it? Under my proposal, you can keep watching whatever pleases you. I'm not about changing your viewing preferences.
They could always put advisory stickers on those movies that contain male-male contact, just so that selective homophobes can avoid them.
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#169903 - 05/31/06 05:46 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 440
Loc: Lake Michigan
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You know full well that the straight porn industry is a selectively homophobic industry. No matter what you say, the facts speak for themselves. And how do you know only "straight" guys purchase "straight" porn? Did you do a little survey? Where are your figures? I reckon you're all pulling assertions out of your large colons.
The total ban on male-male contact in straight porn has to go. I'm planning to break down barriers, whether you like it or not.
I wouldn't say that only straight men buy porn, but I do think that straight men purchase by far more porn than any other group, but as I said before what the hell do I know. I am not in the industry and don't know shit about it.
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