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It's all bullshit....Phlog, what you need to do is splurge for about a thousand and go to a strip club, find the one you want, and offer her the thou for the night. Don't pick a super pretty uber cunt, find a decent looking, somewhat raunchy, slightly older woman who probably has a kid...if she's drinking, order several shots before you make your move.

Then when you get her back to the House/Motel/Van, alternate between fucking the shit out of her and crying hysterically. WHen you are done, tell her you just lost your job and ask for 300 dollars back so you can eat this month. If she says no, cry some more, then hit her with the phone....



Burg, did you ever fuck a woman you didn't pay? Serious question.



No, "stupid" question, and also totally uncalled for since this is phlog's thread and my post was on topic whereas your's is just another attempt to get in a cheap shot....

Yes I have actually had sex where I did not pay, but I freely admit that MOST of the time, I have paid an upfront fee. I have several "relationships" that are ongoing with women in the sex industry...but its a dumb question because in reality, every guy ends up "paying", albeit in different forms and terms. And if it were the case that I had never had sex without paying, my answer would still be the same because who the fuck would admit to that anyway?

Tell me the financial difference between having a steady girlfriend, who you take out to eat a couple times a week, go clubbing a couple times a week, buy the required amount of gifts and trinkets and other forms of tribute, whereby you are looking at a significant monthly expense, OR simply finding a whore you like and get along with and springing the needed $$$ for a planned rendezvous a 2-3 times a month? I've done the math, and until I meet a woman I can actually tolerate full time, and who can overcome her own insecurities and bullshit ideals of Physical Attraction and actually love me in spite of my physical situation, I will stick with what I am doing. I wont even broach the subject of the potential $$$ cost of Marriage....I have friends who are divorced who are paying MORE for a woman they CAN NO LONGER fuck than I spend in a year on whores. I just consider myself fortunate that I can afford to do this, unlike many other physically disabled but otherwise normal guys who cannot afford anything except porn to satisfy urges and enjoy what everyone else takes for granted.

Dont get me wrong, I have many women "friends" I do not pay for sex...in fact, I probably have too many...I am often used as a Male Version of a female "Best Friend", simply because women do not think of me right away in a sexual way so they feel safe telling me shit, so long as I never make a pass or make sexual innuendo. Thats reality, I have dealt with that since college. I am 38 and have had four serious, non paying relationships my entire life that lasted more than a year. Other than that, I fork out the $$$$ whenever my Gonads get too restless. Take Christie Lee for example....she and I were great pals, but she made it perfectly clear to me that that is ALL she could ever consider me as...which I readily accepted, mainly because, in her particular case, thats all I thought of her as or could ever think of her as...she just wasnt my cup of tea sexually, but she was a great chick to hang with and get drunk and be friends with....a lot of fun.

Its seemingly a cynical view of things, but not really; if nothing else the way I live my life is totally up front and honest with no games, bullshit or deception...I am not using these women except in the agreed upon terms and situations. My outlook on this topic is basically the same as most escorts and of these porn chicks who use sex as a means of $$$$$ and not an expression of love.

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