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#157729 - 04/05/06 10:29 PM
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Team needs for the Dallas Cowboys... FS-starter OLB- help for D.Ware on the other side OL-back up/rotation guy DT-rotation with Ferguson in the 3-4 TE-blocking TE QB- time to push Romo and Henson WR-3rd string All first day picks should be starters or must contribute during their first year. With that said Dallas needs to find a starter at FS, OLB and spot player at OG/RT. I'll name 3 players for every round. First player being my top choice.. Round 1) #18 K. Wimbley-OLB D. Whitner-FS B. Carpenter-OLB Round 2) #49 P. Watkins-FS T. Lutui-OL G. Watson-DT Round 3) #80 M. Gilles-OL O. Jacobs-QB M. Stovall-WR fire up ESPN, NFL Network, ESPNU and 1310AM- The Ticket(Dallas sports radio station). It's draft time!!!
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#157730 - 04/06/06 01:54 PM
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Big Calm.......whats your take on T.O.??? Parcells seemed less than thrilled.
Im very eager to see how this draft plays out.
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#157732 - 04/06/06 02:32 PM
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Big Calm.......whats your take on T.O.??? Parcells seemed less than thrilled.
I'm very eager to see how this draft plays out.
Don't let BP (aka, the New Jersey con man) fool you. He had his chance to kill that deal. He's on board with it.
Let me tell you. I'm a big Cowboy fan. I've owned season tickets for 10 years. I actually had tickets while I lived in Miami.
I would fly to Dallas twice a year to see two home games. NFL Sunday Ticket for the rest. I finally moved to Dallas in 1999.
With all that said I hear a lot of so called "Die hard" fans saying that they're not going to pull for Big D this year because of the TO signing.
Man, that shit is trill. I don't love TO and I was there when he went ape shit on the Cowboys defense. But you're supposed to be fan of the team. Players come and go.
My take is like when your brother/sister are about to marry some kat that you really don't dig. But what are you going to do. They're family now. Til death or divorce due them part. You don't have to like it, but what's done is done.
Do you think that Jerry Jones cares if I don't renew my season tickets because of TO. Plus why would I want to do that to myself.
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#157733 - 04/06/06 02:36 PM
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Terry Glenn is a solid #2 WR. Best hands on the team. Often injured though. I love Ohio State, so I'm not going to bad mouth any Buckeyes.
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#157734 - 04/06/06 02:55 PM
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The Cowboys look pretty decent. If they can protect Bledsoe, and run it a bit, they should be sound. Ya'll got a Monday nighter against Philly. Should be interesting.
Im just really pissed right now at how the Titans are treating McNair. That's fucking sad.
Im up here in Wisconsin, and everyone is hanging on Favre's word. No, Im not a big Packer fan, but wish Favre the best and wish he'd make up his mind already. They have alot at stake in this years draft.
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#157735 - 04/06/06 05:22 PM
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I'm not a 'Boys fan at all for I've found too many Texans to be insufferable jackasses, but I digress. I certainly respect the fans love for their team, and as much as I also dislike T.O. personally, the 'Boys win total will increase 2 or 3 games just from him being there. Both he and Glenn were on my (XPT League Champion ) fantasy team last year, and I expect they will be a potent combo.
Does anyone have an opinion they want to share on Vince Young? I heard a prognosticator on ESPN radio this morning placing him with the Cardinals at the 10th pick. Being on the Cardinals is bad enough, I won't go there, but I don't think there's so much of a place anymore for the "highly mobile" quarterback in the NFL due to the increased speed and size of defenses these days and the destructive hits they can lay on an unprotected QB in the open field. If it isn't an actual flesh and bone wound, anymore its likely to be a concussion that equalizes the threat of a running QB. That said, Vince Young certainly has what it takes to stick somewhere in the NFL, likely at WR like Matt Jones last year or Kordell Stewart before he got uppity and demanded to be a shitty QB. I'm not the first guy to say it, that just happens to be my 2 cents.
Edit to add: It just ain't right what's happened to McNair, but I can empathize with management on the matter as far as liability is concerned, thats just the way it is.
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#157736 - 04/06/06 06:55 PM
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Young made me a believer when he beat the Buckeyes this past year. I don't know if he's worth the 10 pick. He is a top 3 QB in this class. He's throws better then some of the guys who are playing Qb right now. McNabb, Aaron Brooks and Chris Sims come to mind.
People talk about his delivery. But does anybody remember the name of the QB that lead the Hurricanes to a national title, played in the NFL for 10+ years and help Dallas in a playoff win on their way to the SuperBowl.
BERNIE..BERNIE.
Now, I'm not saying that he's got the Football smarts that Bernie had. But he's delivery is just as side arm as his. Omar Jacobs (College), Phillip Rivers and Jake Plummer all have funny side arm releases.
And Young is more athletic. I think Young will be better then a lot of people give him credit. We'll just have to wait and see.
Once my Mel Kiper and Ourladds draft guides get here, I'll be able to really see what the scouts are saying about a lot of these kids.
btw, I heard Wimbley on the NFL radio network saying that the Cowboys want him in for a private work.
YES!!!!!!!!!!
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#157737 - 04/06/06 08:08 PM
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#157739 - 04/06/06 10:58 PM
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the only question mark is the offensive line.
Yeah, I can't believe they let Larry Allen walk, to the 49ers no less.
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#157741 - 04/07/06 08:17 AM
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parcells won his super bowls with defenses that could shut down the k-gun and thurman and befuddling elway. the offenses just needed to score some to win.
let's look at the guy in the decade after belicheck wasn't there to take some really-good offenses out of the game including getting there over montana and the 49ers at their best.
he's a pretty-good coach, a guy who can get you from lousy to 8-8 in a few years with some vets. problem is he can't do much more than that in his solo-era then he eventually bails and starts again because a head coach can basically scare a pro team for a few years, make them competitive. that's not winning a super bowl.
the guy's just a screamer who does press-releases without having the guy who was obviously doing some of the best pure coaching football's seen since bill walsh. it's pretty obvious belicheck was the difference between him never getting to a super bowl in the first place like most coaches and probably wouldn't have managed to stay a head coach forever as a .500 and change coach like he's been the last decade.
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#157742 - 04/10/06 11:30 AM
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*Updated Mock Draft from NFL Draft Blitz*
First Round
1)Texans-Bush-RB 2)Saints-Ferguson-OL 3)Titans-Leinart-QB 4)Jets-Williams-DE 5)Packers-Hawk-OLB 6)49ers-Huff-CB/S 7)Raiders-Davis-TE 8)Bills-Justice-OL 9)Lions- Ngata-DT 10)Cardinals-Young-QB 11)Rams-Hill-CB 12)Browns-Lawson-DE/OLB 13)Ravens-Bunkley-DT 14)Eagles-Greenway-OLB 15)Broncos-M. Willams-RB 16)Dolphins-J. Willams-S/CB 17)Vikings-Cutler-QB 18)Dallas Cowboys-Whitner-S-Ohio State 19)Chargers-Jackson-WR 20)Chiefs-Joseph-CB 21)Pats-Sims-OLB 22)Broncos-Holmes-WR 23)Bucs-Carpenter-LB 24)Bengals-Simpson-S 25)Giants-Ryans-OLB 26)Bears-Pope-TE 27)Panters-White-RB 28)Jags-Hali-DE 29)Jets-Maroney-RB 30)Colts-Addai-RB 31)Seahawks-Kiwanuka-DE 32)Steelers-Allen-FS
A couple of things jump out at me on this mock.
First, Denver never drafts RB's in the first round. Their coach believes more in the system then talent. I don't think the Broncos will waste a 1RD pick on a RB.
Next, I just don't see the Cowboys drafting a Safety in the firts round. We've got to much money tied up in Willams, Newman and Henry. All CB's and FS's.
Last, IMO Addai-RB is not a first round pick. But I see they're saying the Colts need a RB. If the Jets take Maroney off the board. They assume the Colts will REACH and take Addai in the first RD. He's 2nd Rd talent all the way.
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#157743 - 04/10/06 11:43 AM
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*Updated Mock Draft NFL Draft Countdown* First Round 1)Texans-Bush 2)Saints-Williams-DE 3)Titans-Leinart-QB 4)Jets-Ferguson-OL 5)Packers-Hawk-OLB 6)49ers-Davis-TE 7)Raiders-Young-QB 8)Bills-Justice-OL 9)Lions-Huff-CB/S 10)Cardinals-Cutler-QB 11)Rams-Hill-CB 12)Browns-Ngata-DT 13)Ravens-Bunkley-DT 14)Eagles-Greenway-OLB 15)Broncos-Jackson-WR 16)Dolphins-Allen-S 17)Vikings-Sims-OLB 18)Dallas Cowboys-Whitner-S-Ohio State 19)Chargers-Holmes-WR 20)Chiefs-Joseph-CB 21)Pats-Marshall-CB 22)Broncos-M.Williams-RB 23)Bucs-J.Williams-CB/F 24)Bengals-Wimbley-DE/OLB 25)Giants-Watson-DT 26)Bears-Jennings-CB 27)Panthers-Ryans-OLB 28)Jags-Howard-OLB 29)Jets-Carpenter-OLB 30)Colts-Maroney-RB 31)Seahawks-Cromartie-CB 32)Steelers-White-RB Again, this mock has Dallas taking Whitner with the 18th pick and Denver taking a RB in the 1st RD. Man, I still don't get it. It also looks like they're saying there's going to be a run on OLB's at the end of the Round one. I'll post Mel Kiper's projection once my Draft Guides is delivered.
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#157744 - 04/10/06 01:29 PM
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Well since the Fins need help in numerous areas, I guess any pick of quality will do for them. I just hope Dante is better than he looked last year.
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#157745 - 04/19/06 01:31 PM
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*NFL Draft update*
The Denver Broncos just traded their second 1st round draft pick #22 to the 49ers. In exchange the 49ers give to Denver their 37th pick (2nd Rd) and the 68th pick (3rd Rd).
The Jets and 49ers both have two 1st Rd picks in the Draft.
btw, Dallas just signed Marcus Coleman (FS) to a 1 year. I think this means OLB with the 18th pick....
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#157746 - 04/20/06 07:31 PM
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Rumor has it that the Cowboys are interested in Michael Huff.....any chance they swap places with the Bills at #8? What do you give up to move up 10 spots? #18 and your 2nd are a given but I think the Bills would want more....
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#157747 - 04/20/06 09:56 PM
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Rumor has it that the Cowboys are interested in Michael Huff.....any chance they swap places with the Bills at #8? What do you give up to move up 10 spots? #18 and your 2nd are a given but I think the Bills would want more....
Not interested...way to costly for a FS/CB. The Cowboys are still 2-3 players away from being a dominate Defense. Plus they just signed Marcus Coleman (FS) to a one year deal. Look for them to go with the BPA at pick #18 or move down into the 20's. We'll see.
I can't wait
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#157748 - 04/21/06 02:59 PM
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It seems TO and Bill are getting along...but the real test will be TO and Bledsoe as the season goes along!
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#157749 - 04/24/06 10:58 PM
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I have been out of the football loop lately- who have the experts been predicting for the Dolphins pick lately?
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#157751 - 04/25/06 07:19 PM
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I have been out of the football loop lately- who have the experts been predicting for the Dolphins pick lately?
Cleetus, I've watched a ton of Draft shows this week and my Sirius radio is locked on Channel 124 (NFL Radio). I keep hearing S/CB...Maybe Whitner from Ohio State or even another OLB to play in that 3-4 Simms...
Chico, the experts (not me) think the Steel Curtain will take a RB or WR. Maybe Moss from UM or the big RB from USC.
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#157753 - 04/25/06 07:41 PM
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#157754 - 04/25/06 08:59 PM
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#157756 - 04/25/06 10:51 PM
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Chico, the experts (not me) think the Steel Curtain will take a RB or WR. Maybe Moss from UM or the big RB from USC.
The only thing that sucks about winning the Super Bowl is we get the last pick. Most of the top picks are taken. Then again, there is always a hidden gem now and then who can make an impact.
Yep, I'll post Kiper's and Ourladds Draft projections for the Steelers on Wednesday. I still think another 1-2 trades may go down before Wednesday.
Watch for Green Bay to unload J. Walker for a 2nd or 3rd pick... Denver is trying to move their WR too.
I just hope that Wimbley, Lawson or Carpenter are there when the Cowboys pick in the 1st rd.
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#157757 - 04/25/06 11:05 PM
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Chico, here you go...
Mel Kiper Jr
1st rd- S. Moss WR- Miami 2nd rd- D. Manning CB- Abilene Christian 3rd rd- B. Hawkins DE/OLB- Illinois 4th rd- A. Hall RB- S.Florida 4th rd- D. Colledge OT- Boise St 4th rd-O. Jacobs QB- Bowling Green
Ourlads....
1st rd- N. Mangold OT- Ohio State 2nd rd- G. Jennings WR- Western Michigan 3rd rd-D. Trapp DT/DE- Va Tech 4th rd A. Bethea FS- Howard 4th rd-W. Lundy RD- Virginia ..he's like another Randle El type player. 4th rd-K. Golston DT- Georgia
Dang bro, you guys have three 4th rd picks. Two of them are comp picks....
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#157759 - 04/26/06 11:17 AM
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look, the guy is a fucking idiot.
if you cant not smoke pot for a few months in order to make a few million dollars a year then I have no pity for you and you can be tarred and feathered and dragged through the streets for all i care...
mostly im pissed because i was gonna try to steal him in a late rd this year
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#157760 - 04/28/06 02:30 PM
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You know we've got an XPT fantasy football league, don't you Big Calm? I'm assuming you're gonna be in, which is good because we had too many flakes last season.
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#157761 - 04/28/06 02:59 PM
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Yeah, when I started posting on October I saw that XPT had a league. You might think this is stupid of me ...but I'm such a bleeding heart Cowboys fan. That I hate to pick against them. My entire team would be made up of Cowboy players. Which would guarantee a losing season. Plus, lets say the Cowboys win, and some players on the fantasy team don't produce. Now that fucks with my happiness of the Cowboys victory. See, it kinda wild. That's why I never gamble on the Cowboys as well. You're talking about a guy that left Miami in 99 and moved to Dallas just so I can see all their games live. Pretty weak huh... Plus I also watch 5-10 College Football games each weekend (Tivo). I'm a huge Ohio State Fan. (born in Toledo, OH) I doubt that I'll be in the Fantasy League... btw, it's pretty quiet so far. I thought there would be more trades a day before the Draft. I've got no new ifo. NFL raido, ESPN raido, local Sports radio in Dallas...NOTHING
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#157763 - 04/28/06 05:17 PM
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NFL Network just reported that the Houston Texans have signed Mario Williams DE/ NC State. He will be the 1st pick the 2006 NFL Draft Let the Reggie Bush derby begin! Finally..some Draft action...
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#157764 - 04/28/06 05:29 PM
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I would really appreciate an invite to play in the league as well. Im not a flake and have been playing in other leagues for years.
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#157767 - 04/28/06 07:13 PM
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Its a fun league. Nothing is more stiafying than beating Cleetus. What makes it fun is all the smacktalking we do thru the season. Last yr. wasnt too great. The smacktalking didnt live up to the previous yr.
Cleetus, when I won, I didnt have all Steelers. I had Brady as my QB. Im going for all Steelers this yr.
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#157769 - 04/28/06 07:17 PM
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The Jets are trying to move up from the #4 spot to the #2 spot where the Saints are sitting. The Jets want Reggie Bush.....I wonder what the Cowboys are doing with the #18 pick.....
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#157770 - 04/28/06 07:27 PM
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#157771 - 04/28/06 07:39 PM
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Its a fun league. Nothing is more stiafying than beating Cleetus. What makes it fun is all the smacktalking we do thru the season. Last yr. wasnt too great. The smacktalking didnt live up to the previous yr.
Cleetus, when I won, I didnt have all Steelers. I had Brady as my QB. Im going for all Steelers this yr.
WTF does that mean?
That would be you if you picked an entire fantasy team of Steelers.
Their WR's dont get much action.
Their new RB hasn't had to carry the load yet.
The QB only throws the ball 13-15 times a game
Your Defense is set...and I'm not sure if you'd want their PK
All that said you are the XPT champ... and this is coming from a guy that doesn't play FF.
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#157772 - 04/28/06 08:42 PM
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This is gonna be the most interesting draft in NFL history...the media has spent so much time hyping this up, more so than in the past.
Im here in Wis., while not a big Packer fan, I cant help but be curious. AJ Hawk is the consensus, and I like the cat, but they have some other glaring needs. Now that Favre came back,(and I dont know why), and they signed the oft injured Woodson...they need an offensive line...badly!!!...Favre will go the way of Young and Aikman if they are not careful. He is a concusion waiting to happen. What will they get for Walker???...he's as good as gone(traded)...When I think about the Packers, I just throw my hands up in frustration.
My teams are the Titans and Raiders. Love McNair, and love the Raiders, just because they are the Raiders.
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#157773 - 04/28/06 08:58 PM
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Watch Tye Hill and Charlie Whitehurst. Two good ball players.
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#157774 - 04/28/06 08:59 PM
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#157775 - 04/28/06 11:28 PM
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Floofin if you turn out to be who I think you are I will piss my pants.
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#157776 - 04/29/06 12:11 AM
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This is gonna be the most interesting draft in NFL history...the media has spent so much time hyping this up, more so than in the past.
Im here in Wis., while not a big Packer fan, I cant help but be curious. AJ Hawk is the consensus, and I like the cat, but they have some other glaring needs. Now that Favre came back,(and I dont know why), and they signed the oft injured Woodson...they need an offensive line...badly!!!...Favre will go the way of Young and Aikman if they are not careful. He is a concusion waiting to happen. What will they get for Walker???...he's as good as gone(traded)...When I think about the Packers, I just throw my hands up in frustration.
My teams are the Titans and Raiders. Love McNair, and love the Raiders, just because they are the Raiders.
AJ Hawk is the truth...and Ohio State has a freshman by the name of Homan...He's AJ's love child at the MLB spot. I think Green Bay wants a 2nd rd pick for Walker. I heard Denver offered Ashley and a 2nd rd but the Packers said no.....
FYI... there's a big name OL from Wisconsin (Olgesby). Ohio State is recruiting him super hard...so is Touch Down Jesus. I think in the end he'll stay home and play for the Badgers...
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#157777 - 04/29/06 12:12 AM
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Floofin if you turn out to be who I think you are I will piss my pants.
Sorry B, no pretense, I'm not anyone you'd know apart from here. I was only subtly asserting my presence among the crowd, as I am wont to do when the conversation includes XPT fantasy football. Just grinding salt is all, there are wounds here that haven't yet healed.
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#157778 - 04/29/06 12:14 AM
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Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 900
Loc: Dallas, TX
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Watch Tye Hill and Charlie Whitehurst. Two good ball players.
Clemson fan?...Your Soph RB's is not joke. His name escapes me...
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