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#156465 - 03/30/06 10:38 AM Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
ChuckSpears Offline
AC Cream Wannabe

Registered: 11/01/05
Posts: 537
Loc: Holly Randall's garden
Quote:

Holly Randall (hollyrandall at suze.net) Needs A Model For The Weekend

HollyRandall: content exchange, I can't pay the girls
HollyRandall: Joanna Angel isn't in town
Luke: you want me to put up an announcement?
HollyRandall: lol no
HollyRandall: i'd get the wrong girls after me
Luke: thank you for the respect you have for my readers
HollyRandall: sorry i didn't mean it that way!
HollyRandall: i just don't want a bunch of girls i can't shoot emailing me and then i have to tell them no, they're not our type
HollyRandall: ok better, thank you






So I read that on Luke's site this morning and even though I am not in the business I thought wow isn't this kind of sad that the great Holly Randall who is talked up to no end on his site and in other places (here too!) can't afford to just pay the girls to get content for her site?

I mean isn't "content exchange" really just a big scam to get people to work for free? If you care about your web site and your content, don't you want to own it exclusively and not have to worry about any drama that might follow.

Is Holly's photography so great that people would want to waste their time working for her for free to just get pics? I mean hello, any idiot can take a picture of a pussy and sell it.

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#156466 - 03/30/06 04:01 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
2cums Offline
Registered Sex Offender

Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 2415
Loc: On the Mia Rose bandwagon
Quote:

I mean hello, any idiot can take a picture of a pussy and sell it.




This is the jew rubbing off on her.

I disagree with your statement. This is just one of the countless things wrong in porn. It seems like any meth addict with a disposable camera in LA thinks he's Ansel Adams. I like nice clear, clean shots of women and the goods they offer. I enjoy seeing a crisp shot of a chicks bunghole in a pre-hemorrhoid state. Sometimes pictures can tell a story. Like why 3 of her pussy hairs curl to the left while the majority curl to the right.

For a challenge, have Suze, Holly and yourself (Chuck) use the same model, with the same pose, same camera and each one has to set up their own lighting and adjust the focus. I guarantee you will see a difference.

So much wasted film. So many fuzzy, dark pics. So many models looking like they suffer from jaundice.

If the model is bi or lesbo , its a win-win situation. Holly gets to practice and the girl gets to play dress up and cum in the presence of a beautiful woman.

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#156467 - 03/30/06 08:46 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
Quote:

Quote:

I mean hello, any idiot can take a picture of a pussy and sell it.




This is the jew rubbing off on her.

I disagree with your statement. This is just one of the countless things wrong in porn. It seems like any meth addict with a disposable camera in LA thinks he's Ansel Adams. I like nice clear, clean shots of women and the goods they offer. I enjoy seeing a crisp shot of a chicks bunghole in a pre-hemorrhoid state. Sometimes pictures can tell a story. Like why 3 of her pussy hairs curl to the left while the majority curl to the right.

For a challenge, have Suze, Holly and yourself (Chuck) use the same model, with the same pose, same camera and each one has to set up their own lighting and adjust the focus. I guarantee you will see a difference.

So much wasted film. So many fuzzy, dark pics. So many models looking like they suffer from jaundice.

If the model is bi or lesbo , its a win-win situation. Holly gets to practice and the girl gets to play dress up and cum in the presence of a beautiful woman.






I responded to you on Luke's site. Read it if you care.
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#156468 - 03/30/06 10:19 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Quote:


For a challenge, have Suze, Holly and yourself (Chuck) use the same model, with the same pose, same camera and each one has to set up their own lighting and adjust the focus. I guarantee you will see a difference.





Holly is too important to light her own stuff, remember...that's what assistants are for.

Typical Holly shoot:

Assistant> <Holly <Aria Giovanni

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#156469 - 03/31/06 02:39 AM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
sexycity Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 06/30/04
Posts: 691
I vote 'cheap'. Nothing personal, Holly. The family has a nice spread in Malibu and boards horses. That ain't cheap by a long shot.
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#156470 - 03/31/06 09:42 AM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
Say whatever you want, because it's obvious some of you don't understand how important and difficult it is to get good content for many of the model sites. In fact, I had Club Jenna contact me the other day about just that. It's a good deal for all involved-- why would I pay the girls and give them all the content as well? That would make no sense, and be totally unfair to the two to three shoots we do a week for magazine publications and video, in which I do pay the girls their rate, but keep the content. This is something I am doing totally on my own, on the weekends, for my own enjoyment and to be able to work with girls that I like on a personal level, but can't always fit into my busy week schedule. I either work with one assistant or no one at all-- it's just very difficult for me to produce 4-7 sets in a day without a guy helping me move equipment and take meter readings. If you had any idea how my photoshoots work, and how many lights we use, you would understand it's pretty much impossible for me to work without an assistant. I cover ALL costs, BTW-- makeup, food, assistant fee, processing, color correcting... I've got Justine Joli and Kimberly Kane booked for Sunday, and I'm very much looking forward to a fun, more laid-back day of shooting where I don't have to stress about getting a full layout, and where I have complete creative freedom.
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#156471 - 03/31/06 11:05 AM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
G_Jacobson Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 08/25/05
Posts: 19
The reason she would offer a "content exchange" is because a few of these girls actually have the brains to market their own content in addition to just working for other people.

Also, the average porn "producer" is nothing but a jerkoff with a consumer cam and an on-camera flash so doing a content exchange with someone like Holly is a good opportunity.

I do content exchanges with models when I have the time. When they show up on your set and realize you are not just another moron with a handycam they tend to want to work with you over and over.


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#156472 - 03/31/06 02:51 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Rich WWF Offline
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Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 3
This is a bunch of BS and taken completly out of context. We love you Holly!
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#156473 - 03/31/06 03:05 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
The Ghost Is Toast Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
Quote:


it's just very difficult for me to produce 4-7 sets in a day without a guy helping me move equipment and take meter readings. If you had any idea how my photoshoots work, and how many lights we use, you would understand it's pretty much impossible for me to work without an assistant.





Quote:


Holly is too important to light her own stuff, remember...that's what assistants are for.

Typical Holly shoot:

Assistant> <Holly <Aria Giovanni




Told ya!


(Just kidding, Holly...all of the top shooters I know of over here use an assistant too. Rich bastards!)

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#156474 - 03/31/06 03:22 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Holly Randall Offline
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Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
Quote:

This is a bunch of BS and taken completly out of context. We love you Holly!




Awww thanks! Tell Crystal that batch of CDs from the last set is going out in the mail today...
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#156475 - 03/31/06 03:23 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Crystal Klein Offline
ADT regular

Registered: 03/31/06
Posts: 1
Being one of the lucky models who got to do a content exchange shoot with Holly just very recently, I feel I need to step in here and take a stand.
I think those that criticize Holly and call her cheap completely forget about the fact that some of us models actually run their own business and do not just work for other companies. Therefore, a shoot with Holly that allows us to keep the content and promote ourselves with it, is of incredible value. Website content is often about quantity instead of quality these days, and if a model wants to stand out with her single girl website, and also puts emphasis on the artistic value of the pictures, she is well advised to shoot with extraordinary photographers like Holly Randall. Centerfolds like me know the difference between magazine-like quality shots and cheap amateur content. I, for my part, feel much more like it is about the beauty of the model when I shoot with someone like Holly than just creating money shots for those who would jerk off to ANY pussy.
So, again, Holly, I am incredibly thankful to have been able to shoot with you for free, and creating all those amazing shots. My members will love them.
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#156476 - 03/31/06 04:56 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
jamesn Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
niggaz is getting paid somehow. i consider holly fairly upstanding as the rat-race goes.
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#156477 - 03/31/06 04:58 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Holly Randall Offline
Chronic Masturbator

Registered: 05/06/05
Posts: 1946
Loc: Outer Space
Quote:

Being one of the lucky models who got to do a content exchange shoot with Holly just very recently, I feel I need to step in here and take a stand.
I think those that criticize Holly and call her cheap completely forget about the fact that some of us models actually run their own business and do not just work for other companies. Therefore, a shoot with Holly that allows us to keep the content and promote ourselves with it, is of incredible value. Website content is often about quantity instead of quality these days, and if a model wants to stand out with her single girl website, and also puts emphasis on the artistic value of the pictures, she is well advised to shoot with extraordinary photographers like Holly Randall. Centerfolds like me know the difference between magazine-like quality shots and cheap amateur content. I, for my part, feel much more like it is about the beauty of the model when I shoot with someone like Holly than just creating money shots for those who would jerk off to ANY pussy.
So, again, Holly, I am incredibly thankful to have been able to shoot with you for free, and creating all those amazing shots. My members will love them.




Thanks Crystal you rock! And BTW, for anyone who cares, her avatar is from that content exchange shoot she's referring to.
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#156478 - 04/01/06 11:24 AM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Quote:

Say whatever you want, because it's obvious some of you don't understand how important and difficult it is to get good content for many of the model sites.



This is a phenomenal deal for the girls lucky enough to do it. Consider for a second what is would cost to hire Holly to get that same content. Professional photographers don't come cheap, they always have one or more assistants, and there can be a lot of equipment and material involved.

Anyone complaining ought to ask Holly for the standard rate she charges for that job, and reconsider whether or not free is a bad deal...
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#156479 - 04/01/06 01:14 PM Re: Holly Randall and Suze.net broke? Or cheap?
Rob Longshot Offline
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Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 1715
Loc: Everything for the people, not...
content trade is great for both the girls and the photographer. Kei did several AMAZING sets with Ken Marcus over the years that have been much loved on her site... which the new one will be done soon-ish.
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