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you're still wandering through shit because you looked stupid. you proudly declared 1900 dollars of torn fishing net as "collisions". semantics matter, terms need to be defined to make any progress. it's discrediting when one takes the kind of liberties you did with including "collide" with "net" when it's that far out of general usage. nobody reading this would associate the words and say " shit! i just collided with a net!" nets give way, ensnare, tangle--there's no collision there.

what you did was either careless or you assume you can pass-off data, that if carefully read would be absurdly-inflated. sure, 43 collisions looks great for you. the problem is, you've just stretched the semantical-boundries of things to the point where it's the same as writing off a hooker as a business expense.

i'm not interested in wondering about ther credibility of links on a porn-forum after the first few were either amatuerish or insulting in the assumption your reader would accept them without concern. either way, i don't argue with people who i'm going to keep on a leash with stretching data to definition because it looks the way they want.

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Fuck, I just deleted my reply.

So, start again. Basically, if I hadn't have wanted you to read that article, I wouldn't have provided the link. I've been around long enough and had enough stupid arguments to know to never provide a link you don't want ppl to read.

Now in that article we have: Submarines collided with other Navy ships at least 28 times in the last six years, :he records showed. Those included five Collisions with other submarines, one with a destroyer and 15 with Navy tugboats.. So by my reckoning, that makes 28 out of 43.


Also: The Navy also released details of 13 collisions involving "objects." For example, U.S. subs collided twice with piers, twice with debris and twice with mooring buoys.. So that's some more.

Not to mention some of the "snags" resulted in civilian boats being dragged and / or sunk. So nets do matter. June 14, 1989: USS Houston snags towing cable and sinks commercial tugboat Barcona 10 miles off Long Beach. One crewman drowns, and two are rescued. Case under investigation. I'd be quite annoyed it the US navy snagged me and sunk my tub.

So either you didn't read the article properly, or yourself chose to deliberately misconstrue it. Which is not suprising considering the disproportionate effort you've put into all of this, as I say, based upon a non-existant premise, one you seem to have made up, triggered by some deep-seated desire.


And, basically, if you hadn't gone off in a tissy, making conclusions, putting words in my mouth etc, all without actually defining what "more that you would think" meant, then this wouldn't have dragged out forever.

So you've dragged this out all this time over a construct you didn't even bother to define or ask to be defined. I hope you don't design aircraft.


So why then are you defensive about the US navy there james? Makes me wonder. Nothing here is ever as it seems. Harvard educated management consultant IIRC. Uh huh. I'm beginning to wonder who else you may be. I have one strong suspision, and have some evidence. But I digress.


And I'm also darn ticked off I fired my ten man XPT fact checking team just last week. I mean *here* is where the creme de la creme of academia and intelligentsia gather. Posts are routinely front page articles in Nature and Science and Pidgeon Fanciers Digest.

That article you are getting so much wood over was simply a very quick google to back-up stuff I've already read, seen and heard previously. I had no idea it would form the cornerstone of my PhD thesis.



So next time, just for you, when I say "US president George W. Bush" I shall send my ten man team all expenses paid to the US to check the US equivalent of Hansard, recount all those pesky Florida votes, in fact all the votes, examine the nature of being to check that it is not just a false construction of the subconscious mind etc etc etc until you're well and truly satisfied.


Now would you like to argue infinately over something you constructed based upon things I never actually intimated, never mind said, or what?