I actually have things to do today, but if I'm bored I will reply to you phlog. Its no disrespect, its just taking a million years to reply to each post.

And quite frankly I think you, and to a lesser degree c62, are beyond any sort of reasoned discussion beyond the propoganda that cloaks the US like a fog. Which is particuarly pointed to me when I start reading words that as I keep saying are Bushisms For Dummies, verbatum, ad nauseum.

Of all the posters on here I feel you are probably the most pro-right pro-Bush anti-Europe anti-muslim anti-anything not American. Just as it would be difficult to reason with an al-qaeda sympathiser [and there are many in the islamic world, even if they don't support their methods] equally its hard to reason with the inversely proportionate of the other side. ie: You.


War shouldn't be inevitable, but sometimes it is. I'm a realist. Sometimes the right way is so hard you might as well take the wrong way. That goes for all things.

I'm pragmatic enough to realise that. So I'm not chicken little. I'm not a leftie pillow-biting yada yada.

And I get the impression you think I'm European. I am not. I am of European decent. But then so probably are you. Just a bit further back.



I get the feeling, and from having this sort of conversation with any number of Americans over the last few years, and saying things, and them coming true time after time, like the Jehovah's witnesses, it is very hard to reason with ppl.

There are of course Americans who feel exactly the same way as I do on many of these issues. But you probably hate them even more.

As I say, I pretty much had ppl threatening to kill me, calling me traitor, coward etc etc etc when I simply pointed out history and geo-politics dictate that Iraq will prove to be a huge mistake, cause countless deaths on all sides and be pretty much a huge waste of time, effort, money, life, goodwill etc.


Don't forget we here get an awful lot of American content. But we get other countries content too. I think America has so much cultural output, and some would charge disinterest in the rest of the world, that pretty much everything in America is America if that makes sense.


It is very hard to see things from a different perspective when you are incased in a total institution. Which makes me wonder if all this is completely futile and is just reinforcing your own beliefs, as you are responding in aggressive defence mode.

It can be quite earth-shattering, confusing and upsetting having your beliefs challenged. Which is why its best to be open-minded and pragmatic.

There was a short time I actually thought Iraq might work out. And that was annoying because I hate being wrong. But it was a very short window, and unfortunately its all back on track.