The nature of the Islam practiced by American Blacks deserves a thread of its own. Even the most lunatic Mufti or Mullah in all of Arabia, North Africa, or pretty much anywhere else couldn't bring themselves to believe that Elijah Muhammed is orbiting the Earth in a spaceship (the "Mother Wheel") having conferences with Louis Farrakhan. That would be too crazy even for them, and such beliefs has no Koranic origin. To be blunt: most American Blacks who call themselves Muslim engage in little or no Islamic practices, but join because Black Muslim political leadership is the forefront of anti-White hatred in America. For them, its a Black Ku Klux Klan.

The lack of high profile Black Islamic terrorism in America probably has to do with the fact that (probably) the majority of those who convert do so while incarcerated, and the scrutiny of the criminal justice system (ie. probation/parole) keeps them from doing much of anything significant. Occasionally, we get a Hassan Akbar, John Muhammed, Lee Malvo, or Yahweh Ben Yahweh, but most are just normal apolitical criminals or militant haters of White people.


I think you are very correct in that Islam is to the west an outlet for the disenfrachised and disillusioned. White kids gone a bit mad and blacks railing against whitie. Used to be the Black Panthers I guess, but Islam is such a bogeyman that its an even more powerful statement.

I think you'd be suprised at some of the sentiments expressed within these circles. We for instance have here a retarded aboriginal boxer [aborigines are taking up Islam in record numbers] who a little while after 9/11 said on national TV that America deserved it. This guy has a big mouth and is as I say a lot stupider than he thinks, but I think it was illustrative of some of the underlying currents existing in "western" muslims.

There was this guy in Kuwait, who IIRC later stated that he did it because he was mad America was attacking other muslims. Asan Akbar

For sure, but the quantity of nuts between religions and the magnitude of their nuttiness varies. (That's why I'm an atheist.) Christian crazies deny evolution and dinosaur fossils, throw doll parts at girls entering family planning clinics, and about a decade ago were killing a few ob/gyns. (When was the last time that happened, anyway?)

Muslim crazies crash planes into office buildings, behead people on videotape, and other super-violent excesses. The difference being that the Islamic lunatics get lots of mainstream support from Islamic communities, even dancing in the streets when an atrocity occurs, while mainstream Christians shun their violent crazies. (No street dancing have I seen.)

Mmmm hmmm. I am agnostic. I think religion most of the time is the problem not the solution.

Christianity is the ruling order. The United States is the ruling coloniser. The middle east is a morass of outdated and outmoded ideals, constant turmoil and generally backward practices that are holding it back. Pretty much sums up most muslim countries, I don't imply however Islam is the cause. Islamic countries once led the world technically in all sorts of areas.

So for Christians and Americans smiting [insert race here] is perfectly par for the course. You wouldn't dance in the street if you bought a loaf of bread would you? For them any minor "victory" over Israel, her greatest supporter America and other sundry players is a cause for celebration.

What I'm trying to say is that Christian nuts have the ascendancy. The are at the right hand of the most powerful mad [well puppet] in the world.

And where that isn't true, they are just as nutty as muslims, if not more so. Have a look at places like Indonesia, Pakistan, Nigeria etc where Christians and Muslims live and are constantly hacking each other to bits. Just because one prays to a brown god and one to a white one.

So again I think the furphy that muslims are by nature much more violent than Christians is just that, a furphy. Reverse the situation and I think you'd get much the same.

Christians, Jews, Muslims, Shintos, have all been beheading each other since the dawn of time.




I know you have an anti-Europe anti-muslim bent, but you do what you can.


I do. Guilty on all counts.

At least you're honest! Nothing worse than someone giving you the immortal line: "I'm not a rascist, but let me tell you why Jews are all evil money grubbing midgets".

Then telling you exactly why, straight-faced, they believe there is a logical basis to their statement.

If you hate someone say it, don't dress is up as objective comment I say.