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Happens all the time. Almost like the cover is done before it even gets to editing.

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I do lay out the box shots before the movie is cut.Im sure most of use do.Its a time issue,you need to get the cover printed while the movie is being cut.All of this takes time and time is of the essence.

My point is the scene is in the movie.Just sayin.

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Happens all the time. Almost like the cover is done before it even gets to editing.

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I do lay out the box shots before the movie is cut.Im sure most of use do.Its a time issue,you need to get the cover printed while the movie is being cut.All of this takes time and time is of the essence.

My point is the scene is in the movie.Just sayin.

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Aha! So its true! Layout before edit!

Yeah I'm a bit apathetic about it at the moment.

But as I say, say for instance you are a hardcore doggy style anal fan, you can only bust a nut looking at that.

You see your favourite star on the box, doing just that.

You buy it.

You get it home.

No such cut of film on there.

What a waste of cash! You are forced to drop a load watching Everybody Loves Raymond Christman Reunion Special. Come on, its just not right.


Some are even worse. Like the chick is taking it up her Kyhber Pass on the box, yet she doesn't take it in the shitter at all in the actual movie.

So I'm sure you are the upper echelon of the industry, the cream de la creme of porno valley, but something to remember in future perhaps.

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is this guy saying he bought the movie so he could watch dirty harry push food into some chicks face?

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Reminds me of the time that Mike Stephano went flat-out bonkers on ADT, when a fan pointed out a picture on the box of Full Anal Access that wasn't in the movie.

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pointing out to someone who claims "a scene is missing" when in fact the whole scene is in the movie as well as the 5 second clip in question that they are wrong is hardly going bonkers.

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Reminds me of the time that Mike Stephano went flat-out bonkers on ADT, when a fan pointed out a picture on the box of Full Anal Access that wasn't in the movie.

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pointing out to someone who claims "a scene is missing" when in fact the whole scene is in the movie as well as the 5 second clip in question that they are wrong is hardly going bonkers.

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Rollin Girl, you don't like me and I don't know you -- let's let bygones be bygones.

I was simply noting the parallels between the mediocre Michael Stephano, and the semi-great Jeff Steward. Obviously the original poster had a beef, noting a scene that was on the box but not in the movie -- because, as Jeff said, 'it didn't work'.

Jeff adressed it diplomatically, but clearly, beneath the surface, Jeff's blood was boiling -- he was furious. I sensed it in the way he added that period at the end of the sentence, damn that was raw.

Sorry if none of that made sense, somebody was hitting me in the head with a fucking hammer.

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is this guy saying he bought the movie so he could watch dirty harry push food into some chicks face?

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No, but so what if I did? The point is that an image should not be on the boxcover if it is not in the movie. Instead of questioning why I selected the movie, you ought to be questioning the point behind misleading people into getting the movie in the first place by putting something on the box that is not in the movie.

Jeff, I like your movies and consider myself a fan of your work for the most part, which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time I noticed this problem. But this is ridiculous. I am not going to keep giving my money to any company that practices in this kind of deception, especially when the excuses don't even make sense. If it is truly an editing vs. time issue, then how does the scene manage to appear in the opening credits and in the movie previews? If it an issue of editing, it stands to reason that the scene would not be included in the movie at all.

Plus, as a consumer, it is not my job to care why the part is not in the movie. All I know is that I was lead to believe it would be there, and it wasn't. Issues of editing, boxcover artwork, etc., are all supposed to be your concern. As the creator of a movie, it is your responsibility to make absolutely sure that there is nothing in your advertising to mislead your customers. And if there is a mistake such as this, it would probably make things alot better if an apology and a promise that it will never happen again were given to the customer instead of excuses as to why we should just be satisfied with whatever crap we got.

Furthermore, there are other problems that need to be mentioned, such as why there is also a photo on the box of Dirty Harry fucking Sierra in doggy while his foot is on her head, yet, that part is not the movie either. Another editing mistake I assume.

Instead of making these crazy and bullshit excuses, you need to make sure this does not happen again. Either fire your editor, double-check your product before you put it on the market, or do nothing and lose customers who are fed up with this bullshit. Like I said, this is not the first time this has happened with one of your movies. And if you don't care enough to fix the problem, then don't expect us to care enough to continue patronizing you.

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Dude, get used to it, intentionally deceptive boxcovers are part of the porn game sadly. However, JM is always on the level and sometimes shit happens. You gots to chill like EPMD says. If you don't like what you're getting don't bother buying it anymore. Many more will fill the void.

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My copy of Tough Love 7 does include the scene with Harry and Sierra (and it's a great scene btw) so maybe fireknight has a defective disk.

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If you don't like what you're getting don't bother buying it anymore. Many more will fill the void.

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reviewerboy, the only thing i dont like about you is your avatar. i was just pointing out the facts

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is this guy saying he bought the movie so he could watch dirty harry push food into some chicks face?

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No, but so what if I did? The point is that an image should not be on the boxcover if it is not in the movie. Instead of questioning why I selected the movie, you ought to be questioning the point behind misleading people into getting the movie in the first place by putting something on the box that is not in the movie.

Jeff, I like your movies and consider myself a fan of your work for the most part, which is why I gave you the benefit of the doubt the first time I noticed this problem. But this is ridiculous. I am not going to keep giving my money to any company that practices in this kind of deception, especially when the excuses don't even make sense. If it is truly an editing vs. time issue, then how does the scene manage to appear in the opening credits and in the movie previews? If it an issue of editing, it stands to reason that the scene would not be included in the movie at all.

Plus, as a consumer, it is not my job to care why the part is not in the movie. All I know is that I was lead to believe it would be there, and it wasn't. Issues of editing, boxcover artwork, etc., are all supposed to be your concern. As the creator of a movie, it is your responsibility to make absolutely sure that there is nothing in your advertising to mislead your customers. And if there is a mistake such as this, it would probably make things alot better if an apology and a promise that it will never happen again were given to the customer instead of excuses as to why we should just be satisfied with whatever crap we got.

Furthermore, there are other problems that need to be mentioned, such as why there is also a photo on the box of Dirty Harry fucking Sierra in doggy while his foot is on her head, yet, that part is not the movie either. Another editing mistake I assume.

Instead of making these crazy and bullshit excuses, you need to make sure this does not happen again. Either fire your editor, double-check your product before you put it on the market, or do nothing and lose customers who are fed up with this bullshit. Like I said, this is not the first time this has happened with one of your movies. And if you don't care enough to fix the problem, then don't expect us to care enough to continue patronizing you.

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I'm totally in your corner on this one, bro...I wish Mark Cuban would start shooting porn...this is the first thing I bet he'd work on...a more innovative process to do layout after editing. Anything is possible with enough time and money.....you'd think that Jeffrey would spend his time and energy working on this instead of worrying so much about his ride....since he often likes to make his "wealth" known, he probably has the money to attack a problem like this....but remember, he and Sandi are both dumb assholes, so what do you expect?

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Man, if this was ADT, this thread would be getting locked the fuck up right about now.

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Yeah, Hypno has flown too close to the sun and been burned here before. At least something is going on, its been dead as hell in here lately.

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Man, if this was ADT, this thread would be getting locked the fuck up right about now.

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Yip....this is the acid test...that's why I put it here...

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My copy of Tough Love 7 does include the scene with Harry and Sierra (and it's a great scene btw) so maybe fireknight has a defective disk.

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The disk is not defective. Yes, the scene is in the movie. But the part that I was looking for is not. I figured people would know exactly what I meant when I said "scene," and wouldn't get so hung up on semantics.

By the way, the part in the opening credits is alot shorter than five seconds, as if five seconds is even long. If you blink, you miss it. Plus, most reasonable people expect that if a part is in the opening credits, that it is also going to be somewhere in the movie.

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If you don't like what you're getting don't bother buying it anymore. Many more will fill the void.

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What other people do with their money is their business. That doesn't oncern me. But I personally get pissed when I spend my money and don't get what I pay for. Fortunately, however, I didn't buy the movie. I rented it. If I had bought it, I'd be demanding a refund right now. I know that deceptive advertising is common in porn. But companies that do this are only hurting themselves in the long run. But anyway, this is exactly the reason that I never buy any movie without seeing it first.

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wait a minute dude, are you honestly telling me that you bought a porn DVD and AFTER you bought it, while watching the opening credits there is a clip of Dirty Harry pushing a plate of food into Sierra Sinn. Then instead of jerking off to the first scene, you fast forwarded the movie to the food section, and couldn't find it. And now you are pissed? Honestly? There is still an entire DVD of smut to jerk off to. I really don't get it....in all seriousness.

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...as unorthodox as it may sound, yeah, I think he really was pissed over that. I know for a fact at this point that there are underground niche markets waiting to be tapped. I know a guy who bought one of the "Ass Cream Pie" videos just to see whores take a pie in the face (and no I'm not the guy!) He told me he'd jerk himself silly to the girl getting pied and could care less about the actual sex scene. To each their own, but there definitely is a nice market for odd shit like that.

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wait a minute dude, are you honestly telling me that you bought a porn DVD and AFTER you bought it, while watching the opening credits there is a clip of Dirty Harry pushing a plate of food into Sierra Sinn. Then instead of jerking off to the first scene, you fast forwarded the movie to the food section, and couldn't find it. And now you are pissed?

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Maybe Sierra wasn't hungry?