Quote:

---

I'm with Canada.

Quote:

---

I don't think you can appreciate the joy of living in a relatively firearm free country until you've lived in one.

---

And you live where? Have you even looked at the crime stats for Australia since the big gun ban? You should check your info better; your crime rate did not go down.

Quote:

---

Some of the stuff you see come out of America just boggles the mind. It literaly makes your hair do this:

---

I agree. That’s why I'm armed.

Quote:

---

And then the even more puzzling and bemusing thing, to non-Americans anyway, is ppl and organisations like the NRA who want even more guns and more powerful guns.

---

I have never seen the NRA seek more or more powerful guns. All I ever see is an organization that fights to protect my constitutional rights. Do you have constitutionally guarantied rights in Canada or Australia?
Where do you get your information?

Quote:

---

Its a crazy crazy situation. I don't care what anyone says and how riled up anyone gets.

---

Sure you do. That's why you typed all of this very open minded and emotional diatribe.

Quote:

---

Like cops here might draw their guns once a year, if they're lucky.

---

No! If they were lucky, they would never have to draw their weapon.

Quote:

---

US cops draw their guns pretty much every job it would seem.

---

This also shows your misinformation. I have stood behind a badge in the US. You have not. TV ain't real life, you do know this right?

Quote:

---

Have I told you the story of the red mini? I forget.


Anyway, someone known to me, another friend in the job told him this little slice of Americana visits downunder.


They're on the road [on patrol], and they catch sight of this tiny red mini [I'm not sure if you know what that is, but its possibly the smallest car ever made] driving erratically.

Hello hello hello they say. Put the lights on, pull it over. Before they even run the rego on the car, about a milli-second after the car stops, out of the mini shoots five sets of black hands and ppl shouting "Don't shoot, don't shoot."

Now this is quite perplexing to a local copper. WTF is going on here?

So he strolls up to the mini, leans in, and there's these 5 huge black guys looking shit scared. Turns out later they were a visiting basketball team.

The cop leans down, totally dumbfounded, and says "What the fuck are you doing?".

The black guys all look at each other scared and confused.

After some conversation it transpires where they come from, somewhere in America, if you're black and don't put your arms out the window etc the cops think you've got a gun and are quite likely to draw weopons and possibly shoot you. The smallest thing can spook them into shooting you. As has been shown numerous times on American TV, sometimes they shoot you anyway.

Cops here are trained, two shots, bang bang. American cops again it would appear to me from American TV [left wing conspirators no doubt] it bang times 15, reload, bang times 15 again. And they have better weopons than many of the police here.

---

You watch too much TV.
Here it is shoot until the danger to the public is stopped. If you know how to shoot, that's one round. Oh and I like the very professional trained police officer in you your story, walking up to the car and saying” What the fuck are you doing?". That just makes the story more believable. Do the very professional police officers in your country often use that kind of language when they encounter members of the public?

Quote:

---

Now that is so ridiculous to cops here its a story that still brings much mirth and head-shaking to anyone who hears it. Imagine the comical aspect of five huge black guys in a tiny red mini looking like they're about to get lynched, while this tiny in comparison white local copper strolls up, casual as you like, not a worry in the world.

---

That little story is more of a testament to the background of the people in the Mini, than it is about policing in the US. But it is a funny STORY, stupid, untrue... but funny.

Quote:

---

The American thing with guns is something we find hard to understand. How can a society be so riddled with hate and mistrust that despite gun deaths up the wazzoo ppl still insist on more and more guns?

---

It is very simple. We are in charge of our government, not the other way around. And if you are looking for a few countries with hate and mistrust, may I offer Europe, South Africa, the Middle east, Russia, Pakistan the list is too long....... you get the picture.
Now please feel free to rant on my friend. Your views are very liberal but unrealistic to me. Guns are inanimate objects nothing more or less. They are no more evil than a hammer or a baseball bat or a butcher knife…ect.
People are evil. Not inanimate objects.
But hey that's just me. YMMV

Now for some interesting facts: In the US every state that passed a concealed weapons permit law has seen a drop in violent crime. Look it up yourself. Isn’t that strange, by your logic, or lack thereof, shouldn't crime have gone up?


Imagine that, crooks afraid of finding out who is or is not armed.