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Finally, why attack those who produce rather than those who consume? You can point the finger at pornographers all you want, but the industry would be non-existent if it weren't for an insatiable public demand. So why should Holly or anyone else in the business feel guilty for giving us all exactly what we want? If you find pornography personally objectionable, don't watch it. But please don't try to impose your moral viewpoint on the rest of the world. Many of us don't share it.

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My point exactly, after the original thread's topic, which everyone seemed to enjoy talking about (Intimacy) became hijacked by Kaiser's well expressed but harsh attack on Holly. I now accept my share of RESPONSIBILITY, as a consumer (at first casual, but in the last month, serious) of Pornography for it's existence...if the demand wasn't there, it would not exist to the extent and in the Manner in which it does...Porn itself is neither inherently Bad or Good (it's innocuous more or less with respect to most people whether they are consumers or performers, but might be slightly more negative than positive in terms of its overall potential impact)...Pornography impacts each person according to how that person already is inside (happy, stable, self-destructive, selfish, weak, insane, etc.) Just like the observation about money: Money doesnt CAUSE problems for people, people cause their own problems, Money just magnifies and alters the DEGREE and scope of the problems. Same with Porn...chicks who leave porn fucked up either entered Porn Fucked up, or the problems were most likely under the surface but came bubbling forth through Porn. I will examine Porn as it affects me further in a different thread, this one is shot out like Kelly Wells' Gaping Rectum

BUT....One last observation on Real, Genuine Intimacy and Porn (and how it can rob those who either perform in it or have relationships with porn performers.) I notice that some Porn Chicks Seemingly Climax during their porn scenes, some having multiple, INTENSE, Genuine orgasms. I find this to be anxiety-inducing: If I am in a relationship with a porn starlet, even if she does climax with me, I am not experiencing anything truly special or genuinely intimate, because thousands of MEN all around the world are witnessing her orgasm at the same time as I am trying to experience it with her in person...this is like having to share her with the rest of the world, and it is dishearteneing to think that I would never live up to her orgasmic experiences on a Porn Set, that everyone else is actually able to see/witness through her films. I feel hopelessly inadequate and insecure now...How did she become so sex crazed/orgasm obsessed? Intimacy counts for nothing, Love for nothing, it is all about those fleeting seconds of intense cerebral sexual activity in her brain during orgasm...my good heartedness, my concern for her well being, my exceptionally good hygiene, my ability to quote romantic excerpts from Keats or Shelley or Shakespeare, my ability to give footmassages and cook...none of this MATTERS, none of these earnest sincere expressions of intimacy, because for whatever reason, women under age 30 (and in particular, women who are in porn) are greedy and empty...they need 4, 5, 7, 12 or more dicks at a time...they want MANY men (or women, in the form of Piss) cumming on them at once because they cant be happy with one partner...they seem to only care about Orgasms (their own and mens' which they use to keep score), and Money, and Attention, and Pot, and...and....