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#149936 - 03/11/06 09:13 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
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the cure havent released a decent album since 95.
I run my anti-virus and adware stuff while i sleep... and the sites arent mine... they are stes people pay me to build for them. Never said i was an influential male performer... never wanted to be. I stuck my dick in a lot of women on and off camera and will continue to. I liketo fuck, its my hobby.
oh and btw.... Ti metto il cazzo in culo e te lo faccio uscire dalla bocca, porca puttana. Siete non vale un cazzo.
Fatti i cazzi tuoi, topa. Sei una busta de piscio, brutta strega.
Distinti saluti.
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#149937 - 03/11/06 09:16 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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#149939 - 03/11/06 09:30 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
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bah, no flame war smut... just me killing time while shit renders.
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#149941 - 03/11/06 09:40 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
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it is a shame that my attempt at chiming in intellectually on the subject had to be dragged down by petty idocy.
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#149942 - 03/11/06 09:57 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/19/04
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I like Holly but I agree with every word that Kaiser Sauze wrote. I experience this conflict as a battle between my values (with Kaiser) vs my feelings (with Holly).
I don't explicate on my beliefs on this with Holly or any porner because it would be pointless. Yes, the Bible says you should reprove people if they are doing wrong, but only if they will listen to you. "Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Don't reprove a fool for he will hate you."
I would not want anyone I cared about performing in porn films, but for many years I have financially profited from their self-destruction through banner ads on my sites.
Here is what Allan MacDonnell (he was the Editor of Hustler magazine and worked for LFP's editorial side for about 20 years) writes in his new memoir Prisoner of X:
"All the skin photographers I met reinforced the prejudice that theirs, more than any other, is a craft of deception. The girls are fooled into believing they are receiving free money. The viewer is duped into believing the photographer has captured the girl in a moment of ecstasy. One photo shoot visit too many ruins the illusions. Afterward, you look at a "nude glamor" shot, and you see a strained expression held for the duration of a camera click. If you are not careful, your cynicism penetrates beyond the illusions of hte photo layouts, and nothing in real life seems authentic anymore."
I hate to be mean but there is such a gargantuan difference in the quality of the writing between those defending Holly and Kaiser Sauze. One guy spells and punctuates correctly and writes clearly (showing he thinks clearly). I like Cassandra and Da Burglar and I don't want to lose their good will, but I would not want them defending me in such slipshod writing. Holly is a grammar and spelling snob. I adore that about her. I know she loves the defense of her, but she must be appalled at the abuse of the English language (DB, Cassandra, you know there's nothing personal in my point).
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#149943 - 03/11/06 10:26 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 10/29/03
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I like Holly but I agree with every word that Kaiser Sauze wrote. I experience this conflict as a battle between my values (with Kaiser) vs my feelings (with Holly).
I don't explicate on my beliefs on this with Holly or any porner because it would be pointless. Yes, the Bible says you should reprove people if they are doing wrong, but only if they will listen to you. "Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Don't reprove a fool for he will hate you."
I would not want anyone I cared about performing in porn films, but for many years I have financially profited from their self-destruction through banner ads on my sites.
Here is what Allan MacDonnell (he was the Editor of Hustler magazine and worked for LFP's editorial side for about 20 years) writes in his new memoir Prisoner of X:
"All the skin photographers I met reinforced the prejudice that theirs, more than any other, is a craft of deception. The girls are fooled into believing they are receiving free money. The viewer is duped into believing the photographer has captured the girl in a moment of ecstasy. One photo shoot visit too many ruins the illusions. Afterward, you look at a "nude glamor" shot, and you see a strained expression held for the duration of a camera click. If you are not careful, your cynicism penetrates beyond the illusions of hte photo layouts, and nothing in real life seems authentic anymore."
I hate to be mean but there is such a gargantuan difference in the quality of the writing between those defending Holly and Kaiser Sauze. One guy spells and punctuates correctly and writes clearly (showing he thinks clearly). I like Cassandra and Da Burglar and I don't want to lose their good will, but I would not want them defending me in such slipshod writing. Holly is a grammar and spelling snob. I adore that about her. I know she loves the defense of her, but she must be appalled at the abuse of the English language (DB, Cassandra, you know there's nothing personal in my point).
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#149945 - 03/11/06 11:38 PM
Re: Does porn Rob You of Intimacy?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
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I hate to be mean but there is such a gargantuan difference in the quality of the writing between those defending Holly and Kaiser Sauze. One guy spells and punctuates correctly and writes clearly (showing he thinks clearly). I like Cassandra and Da Burglar and I don't want to lose their good will, but I would not want them defending me in such slipshod writing. Holly is a grammar and spelling snob. I adore that about her. I know she loves the defense of her, but she must be appalled at the abuse of the English language (DB, Cassandra, you know there's nothing personal in my point).
I went back and re-read both my own and cassandra's posts, and, gee whiz, I didnt think the writing was all that 'slipshod', for XPT anyway. Some would say it has to be somewhat slipshod in order for people that visit here to understand it....
I admit, I am not thinking clearly (as I am often not when it comes to porn), but usually I can just type my way through it...and arrive at something that makes sense. I defended Holly because I like her and, as far as pornographers go, she is seemingly 'less evil' and more concerned with the girls' welfare than most. But I also agreed with a lot of what Kaiser said (I just felt it harsh to single out Holly so specifically, especially on his first post)...Hell I even placed myself at the top of the "Evil" Porn Triad (as a consumer/viewer of porn & sex...)
But that is precisely my Point about Porn: It is an enigma, a contradiction, a two sided coin:
Porn depicts intimate acts done in the most non-intimate way and settings; it depicts pleasure and yet is full of pain and heartache; I enjoy much of what I see and jerk off to, but I also sometimes feel very empty and foolish for doing so. The Angel on my right shoulder tells me it is immoral, but the devil with his dick in his hand standing on my left shoulder rationalizes "Relax, whack away, you are not actually fucking these girls yourself, its all in your head..." Both the Devil and the Angel are correct...It's a huge GRAY area...and I already alluded to Holly figuratively representing something of an enigma in my Little Red Riding Hood/She-wolf analogy.
I really intended this thread to discuss what I realized would be a tough situation to deal with, namely, If I had a relationship with a porn starlet, and I actually did something like cum inside of her during intercourse, I would be denied (robbed) of much of the intimacy typically associated with this act because thousands of men around the world would be viewing (and jerking off to) that VERY same event with my would-be porn starlet partner. Is Holly, or the other pornographers, primarily responsible for that, or is my porn partner?
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#149947 - 03/12/06 01:01 AM
Re: Does porn Rob You of Intimacy?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 01/09/06
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I like Holly but I agree with every word that Kaiser Sauze wrote. I experience this conflict as a battle between my values (with Kaiser) vs my feelings (with Holly).
I don't explicate on my beliefs on this with Holly or any porner because it would be pointless. Yes, the Bible says you should reprove people if they are doing wrong, but only if they will listen to you. "Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Don't reprove a fool for he will hate you."
I would not want anyone I cared about performing in porn films, but for many years I have financially profited from their self-destruction through banner ads on my sites.
Here is what Allan MacDonnell (he was the Editor of Hustler magazine and worked for LFP's editorial side for about 20 years) writes in his new memoir Prisoner of X:
"All the skin photographers I met reinforced the prejudice that theirs, more than any other, is a craft of deception. The girls are fooled into believing they are receiving free money. The viewer is duped into believing the photographer has captured the girl in a moment of ecstasy. One photo shoot visit too many ruins the illusions. Afterward, you look at a "nude glamor" shot, and you see a strained expression held for the duration of a camera click. If you are not careful, your cynicism penetrates beyond the illusions of hte photo layouts, and nothing in real life seems authentic anymore."
I hate to be mean but there is such a gargantuan difference in the quality of the writing between those defending Holly and Kaiser Sauze. One guy spells and punctuates correctly and writes clearly (showing he thinks clearly). I like Cassandra and Da Burglar and I don't want to lose their good will, but I would not want them defending me in such slipshod writing. Holly is a grammar and spelling snob. I adore that about her. I know she loves the defense of her, but she must be appalled at the abuse of the English language (DB, Cassandra, you know there's nothing personal in my point).
well, mr. ford, i'd be grateful if you found the time to proofread some of my writing. up to this point i thought i was doing pretty well, but it appears i could use a lot of help.
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#149948 - 03/12/06 01:12 AM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
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bah, it was a typo arab.
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#149949 - 03/12/06 01:28 AM
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Gay For Pay
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Even assuming that nobody would actually want to work in porn [which -although I'm willing to concede the point for the sake of argument- is a falacious assumption], how is working in porn any different than any other job that people do strictly for money? I don't like waiting tables... but my physical labor is exploited and I'm compensated monetarily. In what substantive way is performing in porn different? Is the primary difference that the "labor" consists primarily of performing sexual acts? And are we to assume that performing sexual acts is necessarily more degrading or exploitative than other forms of physical labor? And is it only degrading to women? I notice the focus is almost always on the supposed misery of the women performing. Is doing porn less degrading for men? And if so, how come so many men seem more than willing to do it? I think this whole argument is founded, on the one hand, on an antiquated notion that sex -particularly for women- is somehow sacrosanct, and not just a simple biological process... and on the other hand, on an archaic double-standard that says promiscuity is a vice when exhibited by women, but somewhat more acceptable when exhibited by men.
As I stated before, working in porn offers a lot of these performers the opportunity to make much more money than they'd earn doing anything else. As Nina Hartley has said, "These women do not have a choice of Harvard or porn. It's porn or white paper hat, porn or double-wide trailer". If there are cases where working in the industry leads to personal misfortune, I can only conclude that in many, if not most of those cases, it arises not from horrible emotional scars left by promiscuous sex [which a lot of these girls were having long before they entered porn], but by the reckless self-indulgence so common when people acquire wealth and a measure of fame overnight. Despite the stereotype, substance abuse, financial ruin, and misery is not the rule by default in porn. Performers have a choice. Porn can be a blessing or a curse. What people in the industry make of it is largely a matter of personal character. But to blame porn or pornographers like Holly for the self-destructive behavior of some performers, is rather like blaming producers, agents, and sports team owners for the self-destructive behavior of actors and pro athletes. Is there any difference? Should these people feel morally responsible because they profitted from other people's misery? Of course not, because there's absolutely no need for misery. The baseless and false assumption underlying Kaiser's argument, is that all performers in porn [at least the female ones] enter the industry under duress, out of "desperation", and are invariably "victims" of the industry... not willing participants.
Finally, why attack those who produce rather than those who consume? You can point the finger at pornographers all you want, but the industry would be non-existent if it weren't for an insatiable public demand. So why should Holly or anyone else in the business feel guilty for giving us all exactly what we want? If you find pornography personally objectionable, don't watch it. But please don't try to impose your moral viewpoint on the rest of the world. Many of us don't share it.
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#149951 - 03/12/06 09:20 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
Posts: 5750
Loc: ATLANTIC CITY
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Finally, why attack those who produce rather than those who consume? You can point the finger at pornographers all you want, but the industry would be non-existent if it weren't for an insatiable public demand. So why should Holly or anyone else in the business feel guilty for giving us all exactly what we want? If you find pornography personally objectionable, don't watch it. But please don't try to impose your moral viewpoint on the rest of the world. Many of us don't share it.
My point exactly, after the original thread's topic, which everyone seemed to enjoy talking about (Intimacy) became hijacked by Kaiser's well expressed but harsh attack on Holly. I now accept my share of RESPONSIBILITY, as a consumer (at first casual, but in the last month, serious) of Pornography for it's existence...if the demand wasn't there, it would not exist to the extent and in the Manner in which it does...Porn itself is neither inherently Bad or Good (it's innocuous more or less with respect to most people whether they are consumers or performers, but might be slightly more negative than positive in terms of its overall potential impact)...Pornography impacts each person according to how that person already is inside (happy, stable, self-destructive, selfish, weak, insane, etc.) Just like the observation about money: Money doesnt CAUSE problems for people, people cause their own problems, Money just magnifies and alters the DEGREE and scope of the problems. Same with Porn...chicks who leave porn fucked up either entered Porn Fucked up, or the problems were most likely under the surface but came bubbling forth through Porn. I will examine Porn as it affects me further in a different thread, this one is shot out like Kelly Wells' Gaping Rectum 
BUT....One last observation on Real, Genuine Intimacy and Porn (and how it can rob those who either perform in it or have relationships with porn performers.) I notice that some Porn Chicks Seemingly Climax during their porn scenes, some having multiple, INTENSE, Genuine orgasms. I find this to be anxiety-inducing: If I am in a relationship with a porn starlet, even if she does climax with me, I am not experiencing anything truly special or genuinely intimate, because thousands of MEN all around the world are witnessing her orgasm at the same time as I am trying to experience it with her in person...this is like having to share her with the rest of the world, and it is dishearteneing to think that I would never live up to her orgasmic experiences on a Porn Set, that everyone else is actually able to see/witness through her films. I feel hopelessly inadequate and insecure now...How did she become so sex crazed/orgasm obsessed? Intimacy counts for nothing, Love for nothing, it is all about those fleeting seconds of intense cerebral sexual activity in her brain during orgasm...my good heartedness, my concern for her well being, my exceptionally good hygiene, my ability to quote romantic excerpts from Keats or Shelley or Shakespeare, my ability to give footmassages and cook...none of this MATTERS, none of these earnest sincere expressions of intimacy, because for whatever reason, women under age 30 (and in particular, women who are in porn) are greedy and empty...they need 4, 5, 7, 12 or more dicks at a time...they want MANY men (or women, in the form of Piss) cumming on them at once because they cant be happy with one partner...they seem to only care about Orgasms (their own and mens' which they use to keep score), and Money, and Attention, and Pot, and...and.... 
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#149952 - 03/12/06 09:31 AM
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Porn Jesus
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hey longshot, been with any men since you got back home? or is keiko's new haircut short enough that if you squint your eyes hard enough, she kinda looks like the other guy from WHAM!
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#149953 - 03/12/06 09:39 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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i refuse to read anything with as high a wordcount as people seem to be posting unless you pay me ungodly sums of money/hour. here's lord asmus, he's got a tat on his penis. his penis is larger than rob longshot's. 
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#149954 - 03/12/06 10:32 AM
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Porn Jesus
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i refuse to read anything with as high a wordcount as people seem to be posting unless you pay me ungodly sums of money/hour.
here's lord asmus, he's got a tat on his penis. his penis is larger than rob longshot's.
You kill me Jamesn. I love to read your shit. Where ya been? 
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#149955 - 03/12/06 10:51 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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I like Holly but I agree with every word that Kaiser Sauze wrote. I experience this conflict as a battle between my values (with Kaiser) vs my feelings (with Holly).
I don't explicate on my beliefs on this with Holly or any porner because it would be pointless. Yes, the Bible says you should reprove people if they are doing wrong, but only if they will listen to you. "Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Don't reprove a fool for he will hate you."
I would not want anyone I cared about performing in porn films, but for many years I have financially profited from their self-destruction through banner ads on my sites.
Precisely...you are a hypocrite Luke. Neither fish nor fowl, but 100% pussy through and through. If you were a real man with the courage of your convictions, you'd pick a side and come down off the fence, but instead you continue to speak out of both sides of your mouth, and weaken both sets of arguments (those arguments being 'Porn is evil' and 'Join Suze.net' respectively).
I couldn't give a damn which side you pick, pro-porn or anti-porn, but you can't hunt with the hounds and run with the foxes. All it does is undermine what little credibility you have even further. Fact is, you make money through banner ads, just like me. PORN banner ads, not banner ads for Steven Spielberg's latest opus. Therefore, you, just like me, are as 'tainted' or 'dirty' as Holly is, as her mum is, as Steve Hirsch is, as Steve Orenstein is, as Rob Black is, as Jeff Steward is, as Khan Tusion is, as Max Hardcore is and so on ad nauseum.
And you know what? I'm proud of the fact. I'm proud to be 'dirty'. And I'm only gonna get dirtier as the years go by.
I don't care for Max Hardcore or his product, but I respect him more than you because he's not afraid to do what he wants to do without trying to rationalise it. If you are truly as anti-porn as you claim to be, why not simply remove all the adult banners from Lukeisback.com and replace them with something more wholesome...amazon.com, ebay, so on and so forth. Why not? Because you are a hypocrite is the long and short of it.
As for the old 'Would you want your daughter doing that?' chestnut...well, if she's over 18 and that's what she wants to do, good luck to her. Better to do porn than telesales. 
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#149956 - 03/12/06 10:55 AM
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Whoremaster
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You are to Rob Black what Mini-Me is to Dr. Evil in this pic, Longshot... 
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#149957 - 03/12/06 10:59 AM
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Porn Jesus
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#149958 - 03/12/06 01:00 PM
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Human Garbage
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bah, it was a typo arab.
See, that's kind of the point, Rob. There are now three people posting to this thread who I am 100% certain are (a.) more intelligent than you, (b.) wealthier than you, (c.) went to better schools than you and (d.) can refer to themselves by a title other than "LORD MASTER OV TEH DARKNESS." And those are only the ones I'm certain of.
Yet only one person is this thread is crowing about being an intellectual, while littering his posts with "typos" which betray a frightening unfamiliarity with the English language. Only one person talks about what schools they went to, even though I'm quite sure that the only way you could get on campus of the two fine institutions I cut my teeth at is with a slopbucket and a nametag. Only one person talks about how fantastic his career is, with the requisite money attached, even though he made his "living" for a few years selling his soulmate's love canal, which is a step below selling your own blood and a very small step above selling children to sex offenders on the scale of human worthlessness.
In other words, you're out of your fucking league here Longshot, so save the mock-intellectual pose for the 16 year olds you're trying to lure into a threesome at Klub Deth, okay? Namaste, and good luck on the whole steady climb from C-List porn couple to D-Grade human beings.
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#149959 - 03/12/06 01:59 PM
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Porn Jesus
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while longshot's not stupid, he was one uppity bobcat-ewok who could never really deign to admit he was in porn, bisexual, or incapable of getting his employers to pay him. i remember him saying
"and while we are posting scores.... SAT =1480 ACT=33. "
the truth is, if your PSAT's were in that range, you would have been on countless recruiting lists your junior year that resulted in a mailbox stuffed with brochures. financial aid? they'd find it.
even "outsiders" with near-1500's don't fall through the cracks-they end up degreed engineers, lawyers, doctors, or changing dollar bills in midtown. are we to believe you really passed up a free degree and shot at a six-figure income to try your hand at porn? or are the fake numbers and repeated infantilization of everyone around you a self-defense mechanism of someone who needed something to feel good about as paycheck after paycheck bounced? we all spell things wrong, dark leader, i just believe your scores as much as the claim keiko was accepted into juiliard from some interview.
just yesterday young rob confuses whether with weather-far more damning than the wrong keystroke and agrees with fellow bi-sexual steve holmes.
"tm with steve, i would go do a scene and then go home and fuck or go to a swingers party... woe to the person who can't enjoy sex, weather its a job or no. "
are you trying to be like eon because he got people to pay him to make porn?
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#149960 - 03/12/06 04:40 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
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cat stepped on keyboard before i was finished posting.
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#149961 - 03/12/06 04:48 PM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
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while longshot's not stupid, he was one uppity bobcat-ewok who could never really deign to admit he was in porn, bisexual, or incapable of getting his employers to pay him.
I'm a little confused by this.. i've never denied I was in porn, I love porn and I love fucking... I never denied being bi-sexual, no one ever asked, and Rob Black always paid me... some others, maybe not... but that wasn't till recently.
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I remember him saying
"and while we are posting scores.... SAT =1480 ACT=33. "
the truth is, if your PSAT's were in that range, you would have been on countless recruiting lists your junior year that resulted in a mailbox stuffed with brochures. financial aid? they'd find it.
even "outsiders" with near-1500's don't fall through the cracks-they end up degreed engineers, lawyers, doctors, or changing dollar bills in midtown. are we to believe you really passed up a free degree and shot at a six-figure income to try your hand at porn? or are the fake numbers and repeated infantilization of everyone around you a self-defense mechanism of someone who needed something to feel good about as paycheck after paycheck bounced? we all spell things wrong, dark leader, I just believe your scores as much as the claim keiko was accepted into juiliard from some interview.
Actually I did have offer after offer thrown my way, and was offered scholarships to many institutions. However my career choice was in art, and I had chosen to go to the Savannah College of Art and Design. Well, after careful thinking decided that was not the path I wanted to take. As an artist, going to an art college only serves to stifle your own creativity and make you create in the same way as everyone else. I already was making decent money designing websites and doing freelance coding since I was 14, and since I wasn't' even 16 yet when I graduated high school I decided I was going to tool around on my own for a while. Travel the U.S. learn by experiencing life rather than sitting in a classroom. Later after I turned 18 I went to the University of Central Florida and began studying software engineering, until my father died and I took stock in what was important in life... See, I don't see the world the way you do. I am not into amassing large amounts of stuff and working so hard I never enjoy it and then die never seeing much of the world beyond my front door. THAT is the real reason I left L.A. was that I felt that begin to happen to me. I suffer from terminal curiosity at the world around from me and a serious case of wanderlust. Porn was and is an outlet for my lust for the pleasures of the flesh, and my desire to fuck as many people as possible. Sex is my only drug. I am an artist, I don't do the normal life thing, I considered it when moving back here... and I do it to a degree, I have a job one would call normal-ish, and I have my freelancing. And then we go out and fuck strippers and swingers. I couldn't handle a life in the normal rat race, nor would I want to. I plan on leaving the states in a few months to go bum around Europe for a few years. visit my ancestral lands. work on music. fuck french whores in alleyways. Grab life by the balls and give it a good firm squeeze which most people fail to do. Keiko and I didn't get into porn because of money, the money was a great bonus, but we both love to fuck. We were swingers and said lets make some money doing this, could be fun. No addictions to feed other than an addiction to flesh. She did't like working with certain people, that's for damned sure... but loved working with the ones that had an ounce of skill. My music is my other passion, one that I have never stopped working on, and will never stop. I don't do it for the hope of being rich and famous from it... I do it for the love of creating. I apologize if my approach to existence does no fit within you meager comprehension of it. I really care nothing for possessions, other than those I use to create. My tools, my passions, my faith and my love are what guide me. Money is just a nessascary evil. As long as I make enough to keep a roof over my head, pay for my tools and keep food in my belly I am happy. I find it amusing that people have such a hard time with that outlook on life... trust me it is much less stressful, and bears much greater fruit.
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just yesterday young rob confuses whether with weather-far more damning than the wrong keystroke and agrees with fellow bi-sexual steve holmes.
"tm with steve, I would go do a scene and then go home and fuck or go to a swingers party... woe to the person who can't enjoy sex, weather its a job or no. "
are you trying to be like eon because he got people to pay him to make porn?
you caught me in a grammatical error. I apologize. sometimes when I am typing quickly I just go with what came out.
And so what if I am bisexual. So what if Steve is bi-sexual. We expect all the women in porn to be bi-sexual. we expect them all to take unprotected cock in their ass. but if a man admits to being bi-sexual... which, even though I admit to it, there are many others who are... it is such a taboo thing. I like sex in all of its form and function. to me it is the essence of our existence and I would be losing out on an experience to deny myself pleasure based out outmoded social mores. I wish more men in porn would stand up and just admit to being bisexual... most of the better male performers are ones who I have seen in gay features who do straight porn. because they love sex and are able to enjoy it without any inhibition or restraint. I'm sure the HIV comments will pop up. But the girls have just as much chance of catching HIV from a straight man fucking them in the ass without a condom. the gay/bi = HIV thing is a ignorant mindset only embraced by people looking for one more reason male homosexuality is wrong.
To quote Ron White "we are all gay it just depends on to what degree"
"no way I am not gay at all"
"do you watch porn"
"hell yeah"
"Do you watch only lesbian porn"
"no I like to watch a man and woman make love"
"do you like the guy to have a small flaccid penis"
"HELL NO, I LIKE BIG THROBBING HARD COCKS!.... I did not know that about my self"
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#149965 - 03/12/06 08:14 PM
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I am bisexual.
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#149966 - 03/12/06 08:42 PM
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#149967 - 03/13/06 05:57 AM
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i refuse to read anything with as high a wordcount as people seem to be posting unless you pay me ungodly sums of money/hour.
here's lord asmus, he's got a tat on his penis. his penis is larger than rob longshot's.
I thought Lord Asmus was Brandon!!! Maybe thats Brandon without his makeup? 
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#149971 - 03/13/06 07:00 PM
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this is desperate and unreadable, you're welcome to re-submit it by the weekend should you wish it to be read. Quote:
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while longshot's not stupid, he was one uppity bobcat-ewok who could never really deign to admit he was in porn, bisexual, or incapable of getting his employers to pay him.
I'm a little confused by this.. i've never denied I was in porn, I love porn and I love fucking... I never denied being bi-sexual, no one ever asked, and Rob Black always paid me... some others, maybe not... but that wasn't till recently.
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I remember him saying
"and while we are posting scores.... SAT =1480 ACT=33. "
the truth is, if your PSAT's were in that range, you would have been on countless recruiting lists your junior year that resulted in a mailbox stuffed with brochures. financial aid? they'd find it.
even "outsiders" with near-1500's don't fall through the cracks-they end up degreed engineers, lawyers, doctors, or changing dollar bills in midtown. are we to believe you really passed up a free degree and shot at a six-figure income to try your hand at porn? or are the fake numbers and repeated infantilization of everyone around you a self-defense mechanism of someone who needed something to feel good about as paycheck after paycheck bounced? we all spell things wrong, dark leader, I just believe your scores as much as the claim keiko was accepted into juiliard from some interview.
Actually I did have offer after offer thrown my way, and was offered scholarships to many institutions. However my career choice was in art, and I had chosen to go to the Savannah College of Art and Design. Well, after careful thinking decided that was not the path I wanted to take. As an artist, going to an art college only serves to stifle your own creativity and make you create in the same way as everyone else. I already was making decent money designing websites and doing freelance coding since I was 14, and since I wasn't' even 16 yet when I graduated high school I decided I was going to tool around on my own for a while. Travel the U.S. learn by experiencing life rather than sitting in a classroom. Later after I turned 18 I went to the University of Central Florida and began studying software engineering, until my father died and I took stock in what was important in life... See, I don't see the world the way you do. I am not into amassing large amounts of stuff and working so hard I never enjoy it and then die never seeing much of the world beyond my front door. THAT is the real reason I left L.A. was that I felt that begin to happen to me. I suffer from terminal curiosity at the world around from me and a serious case of wanderlust. Porn was and is an outlet for my lust for the pleasures of the flesh, and my desire to fuck as many people as possible. Sex is my only drug. I am an artist, I don't do the normal life thing, I considered it when moving back here... and I do it to a degree, I have a job one would call normal-ish, and I have my freelancing. And then we go out and fuck strippers and swingers. I couldn't handle a life in the normal rat race, nor would I want to. I plan on leaving the states in a few months to go bum around Europe for a few years. visit my ancestral lands. work on music. fuck french whores in alleyways. Grab life by the balls and give it a good firm squeeze which most people fail to do. Keiko and I didn't get into porn because of money, the money was a great bonus, but we both love to fuck. We were swingers and said lets make some money doing this, could be fun. No addictions to feed other than an addiction to flesh. She did't like working with certain people, that's for damned sure... but loved working with the ones that had an ounce of skill. My music is my other passion, one that I have never stopped working on, and will never stop. I don't do it for the hope of being rich and famous from it... I do it for the love of creating. I apologize if my approach to existence does no fit within you meager comprehension of it. I really care nothing for possessions, other than those I use to create. My tools, my passions, my faith and my love are what guide me. Money is just a nessascary evil. As long as I make enough to keep a roof over my head, pay for my tools and keep food in my belly I am happy. I find it amusing that people have such a hard time with that outlook on life... trust me it is much less stressful, and bears much greater fruit.
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just yesterday young rob confuses whether with weather-far more damning than the wrong keystroke and agrees with fellow bi-sexual steve holmes.
"tm with steve, I would go do a scene and then go home and fuck or go to a swingers party... woe to the person who can't enjoy sex, weather its a job or no. "
are you trying to be like eon because he got people to pay him to make porn?
you caught me in a grammatical error. I apologize. sometimes when I am typing quickly I just go with what came out.
And so what if I am bisexual. So what if Steve is bi-sexual. We expect all the women in porn to be bi-sexual. we expect them all to take unprotected cock in their ass. but if a man admits to being bi-sexual... which, even though I admit to it, there are many others who are... it is such a taboo thing. I like sex in all of its form and function. to me it is the essence of our existence and I would be losing out on an experience to deny myself pleasure based out outmoded social mores. I wish more men in porn would stand up and just admit to being bisexual... most of the better male performers are ones who I have seen in gay features who do straight porn. because they love sex and are able to enjoy it without any inhibition or restraint. I'm sure the HIV comments will pop up. But the girls have just as much chance of catching HIV from a straight man fucking them in the ass without a condom. the gay/bi = HIV thing is a ignorant mindset only embraced by people looking for one more reason male homosexuality is wrong.
To quote Ron White "we are all gay it just depends on to what degree"
"no way I am not gay at all"
"do you watch porn"
"hell yeah"
"Do you watch only lesbian porn"
"no I like to watch a man and woman make love"
"do you like the guy to have a small flaccid penis"
"HELL NO, I LIKE BIG THROBBING HARD COCKS!.... I did not know that about my self"
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#149973 - 03/13/06 10:10 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 12/12/05
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I like Holly but I agree with every word that Kaiser Sauze wrote. I experience this conflict as a battle between my values (with Kaiser) vs my feelings (with Holly).
I don't explicate on my beliefs on this with Holly or any porner because it would be pointless. Yes, the Bible says you should reprove people if they are doing wrong, but only if they will listen to you. "Reprove a wise man and he will love you. Don't reprove a fool for he will hate you."
I would not want anyone I cared about performing in porn films, but for many years I have financially profited from their self-destruction through banner ads on my sites.
Precisely...you are a hypocrite Luke. Neither fish nor fowl, but 100% pussy through and through. If you were a real man with the courage of your convictions, you'd pick a side and come down off the fence, but instead you continue to speak out of both sides of your mouth, and weaken both sets of arguments (those arguments being 'Porn is evil' and 'Join Suze.net' respectively).
I couldn't give a damn which side you pick, pro-porn or anti-porn, but you can't hunt with the hounds and run with the foxes. All it does is undermine what little credibility you have even further. Fact is, you make money through banner ads, just like me. PORN banner ads, not banner ads for Steven Spielberg's latest opus. Therefore, you, just like me, are as 'tainted' or 'dirty' as Holly is, as her mum is, as Steve Hirsch is, as Steve Orenstein is, as Rob Black is, as Jeff Steward is, as Khan Tusion is, as Max Hardcore is and so on ad nauseum.
And you know what? I'm proud of the fact. I'm proud to be 'dirty'. And I'm only gonna get dirtier as the years go by.
I don't care for Max Hardcore or his product, but I respect him more than you because he's not afraid to do what he wants to do without trying to rationalise it. If you are truly as anti-porn as you claim to be, why not simply remove all the adult banners from Lukeisback.com and replace them with something more wholesome...amazon.com, ebay, so on and so forth. Why not? Because you are a hypocrite is the long and short of it.
This an excellent point. If Luke Ford feels so morally conflicted about the workings of the industry, then maybe he should distance himself from it completely and/or attempt to cease being such a drama-perpetuating, blatantly hypocritical parasite. Either that or own up to the fact he is just as guilty as everyone else (if not more due to the hearsay and tripe he spews out regularly on his website) for perpetuating misery and allover bullshit within porn. Just my worthless .02
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#149974 - 03/14/06 05:11 AM
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"BUT....One last observation on Real, Genuine Intimacy and Porn (and how it can rob those who either perform in it or have relationships with porn performers.) I notice that some Porn Chicks Seemingly Climax during their porn scenes, some having multiple, INTENSE, Genuine orgasms. I find this to be anxiety-inducing: If I am in a relationship with a porn starlet, even if she does climax with me, I am not experiencing anything truly special or genuinely intimate, because thousands of MEN all around the world are witnessing her orgasm at the same time as I am trying to experience it with her in person...this is like having to share her with the rest of the world, and it is dishearteneing to think that I would never live up to her orgasmic experiences on a Porn Set, that everyone else is actually able to see/witness through her films. I feel hopelessly inadequate and insecure now...How did she become so sex crazed/orgasm obsessed? Intimacy counts for nothing, Love for nothing, it is all about those fleeting seconds of intense cerebral sexual activity in her brain during orgasm...my good heartedness, my concern for her well being, my exceptionally good hygiene, my ability to quote romantic excerpts from Keats or Shelley or Shakespeare, my ability to give footmassages and cook...none of this MATTERS, none of these earnest sincere expressions of intimacy, because for whatever reason, women under age 30 (and in particular, women who are in porn) are greedy and empty...they need 4, 5, 7, 12 or more dicks at a time...they want MANY men (or women, in the form of Piss) cumming on them at once because they cant be happy with one partner...they seem to only care about Orgasms (their own and mens' which they use to keep score), and Money, and Attention, and Pot, and...and...."
Last year a close friend of mine had an eighteen year old female heroin addict living with her, this is how she put it:
The intimacy is with the addiction, the addiction cause's selfishness, the selfishness removes all other values & causes criminal behaviour, self harm and harm to others.
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#149975 - 03/14/06 09:12 AM
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#149976 - 03/14/06 01:18 PM
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#149977 - 03/14/06 05:12 PM
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#149978 - 03/14/06 06:21 PM
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#149979 - 10/23/06 09:54 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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DOES PORN ROB YOU OF YOUR INTIMACY?
only if you let it.
to me it feeds an addiction.
to nasty sex and attention from men
it allows ya to be free and not give a fuck.
to me i am more intimate now. i feel i know myself a lot more now than before i did porn.
believe it or not but i think that there are girls out there that can make porn can be a "posative experience"
if they can get past all the bull shit with drugs and stupid fucked up nazi-fag agents.
i know it sounds fucked up, oh well. it is not the first fucked up thing that came out of (or into hahaha) my mouth (or the last)
and just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. is the same true of intimacy?
dont we all have our own concepts of what we consider intimate.
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#149980 - 10/23/06 06:56 PM
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Registered: 12/09/05
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you've been bumping some obscure threads lately sierra, did someone suggest you post in more threads than just your own one? by the way when that hits 20,000 views i'm coming for my $$$
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#149981 - 10/24/06 12:46 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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yes
i caught shit for not posting outside my lil world -o- sinn
i forget that the rest of the pervs want to hear my stoned ramblings.....
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#149983 - 10/27/06 01:10 AM
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Does porn Rob You of Longshot? Discuss...
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#149984 - 10/27/06 06:22 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/07/05
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Llooking at that pic...it's just all kinds of aesthetically not pleasing, I can see why meatholes shut down.
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