DA - off the hop, from what I know of you (which is reading on these boards) I like you. I really have to laugh though when you accuse a poster on something called xxxporntalk, in the monkey cage no less, of being obnoxious.

I want to try and keep this brief, which is tough based on the length of your post.

To be clear - I never called anyone "evil". And I am not splitting hairs. I am not disturbed by Holly's evil tendencies, I am disturbed by her hypocrisy. She garners financial reward from general debauchery without ever getting her hands dirty (yes, I know she lubes the dildo's.) The part that is especially disturbing is that this is not even a venture of her own creation - her mother pulled her/propped her up in the biz!

I appreciate that in your defense of Holly you state that you agree with my premise. I return the favor in acknowledging yours. However...

In your particular case you are clearly defensive. This is understandable as you have a form of "relationship" with Holly. I think the bigger factor here though is that you, like her have crossed the line. You are now in the same boat in that you are profiting from acts committed by others that you would never yourselves partake in. Holly directly by capturing it for eternity and a "paycheque", and you by building a certain level of social interaction and notoriety.

DA, you are a smart man. Smarter than to blame the victim. Smarter that to take some circuitous route of logic that both condemns and exonerates you. Porn is what it is, and pornographers, no matter how many cocktail dresses they own are pornographers. These are the people that you should be describing as those that don't want the hassle of a regular job, enjoy getting drunk at 2:30 in the afternoon (btw, what the fuck is wrong with that) and boastfully profit from orgasms (the male version of anyway). I know you are smarter than to actually believe the bluster and bravado presented by 18 year old girls as they try and rationalize how and why they have ended up where they are.