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#149818 - 02/28/06 08:59 PM
More erotic than porn....
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Porn Jesus
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I saw the Movie 'From Dusk til Dawn' again today...I had seen it before but it had been a while....there were 2 scenes in that flick that I found more wood-growing than than the last porn flick I watched on Movie Monster, 'A load in Every Hole'.
The first Scene in Dusk Til Dawn that I popped a boner to was really short but hot...it is when The Gecko Brothers (Clooney & Tarentino) take the 3 family members hostage in their motel room, and Tarentino's character is staring at Julietter Lewis, and imagines her asking him to eat her pussy. If anyone remembers how fucking sultry and slutty Juliette Lewis was when she says "Richie, will you do me a favor and eat my pussy for me please?" you know what I am talking about....
Scene 2 is more obvious, it was Salma's snake dance pseudo strip tease in the Titty Twister....un fucking real how hot she was/it was.
My point....I am actually finding this kind of stuff more erotic and sexy than seeing the most graphic, unnatural sex acts....the only thing that keeps me interested in porn, aside from its comedic value and the fact it makes me feel so superior, is that every now and then a chick will come along who, despite the completely fucked up, unnatural acts she does, she still gives me wood. But its few and far between...instead I am rediscovering the hottest, most arousing moments/images in non-porn films that I have witnessed,
Jessica Lange throwing the loaves of bread that she had spent all day making on to the floor, and telling Jack Nicholson to fuck her on the counter by yelling at him "Come on....COME ON!" in The Postman Always Rings Twice will always be at the top of the list. I remember sneaking downstairs at night to watch that on HBO in the early 1980s...
Same goes for Dressed to Kill with that shower scene and Angie Dickinson. But what was even more erotic was the anonymous, lust crazed fuck Angie had in the cab with the museum patron...
And I am sorry, but the Blue Lagoon, with Brooke Shields and that blond fag was actually kinda hot...only because of Brooke articulating the sexual happenings, like when she described what she saw when the dude was jacking off.
I guess I am experiencing a porn backlash....I am sick of watching a penis ejaculate into a woman's gaping orifice (mouth, butthole etc.) no matter how hot the chick is....
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#149819 - 02/28/06 09:31 PM
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Well, you picked the only 2 good scenes from that entire movie, "From Dusk 'Till Dawn". Well, there was Cheech extolling the virtues of the house pussy, that was good too. I'll have to think a little harder and recall some of the seminal moments of non-porn celluloid arousal in my own life, I'm drawing a blank now . . .
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#149821 - 03/01/06 09:03 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Scene 2 is more obvious, it was Salma's snake dance pseudo strip tease in the Titty Twister....un fucking real how hot she was/it was.
DaBurg: I highly recommend you watch a film called Eva nera (Black Cobra). Salma's snake dance was inspired by this Gemser teaser. The film on the whole is a little bit of a sleeper but if you want ball-draining erotica.. start with this. Take it from me, Salma's got nothing on Laura.
I'll look it up...seriously, I hope the porn "brain trusts" are paying attention...they need to put a little more thought into the shit they make...simply relying on the sex appeal/freshness of girls to sell the SAME ridiculous spectacles over and over is getting old....the frenzied, maniacal lust that Kelly Wells offers is compelling to watch, and it is fun speculating whether she does this naturally or with chemical help....but seeing chick after chick just get blasted, basted and filled with 5 or more male's bodily fluids, and pretending to enjoy it (and us KNOWING she is getting 2-3 grand minimum in the process) is played out...
Start adding Erotically charged, REAL Kahn Tusion-esque Dialogue to the majority of the scenes...make the scenes more realistic scenarios but with more imagination and thought into how it might play out in a real life situation...porn has lost itself in this sea of outrageous, "in the name of fantasy"-pretexted oneupmanship....these young 18-21 year old fresh-off-the-bus bimbettes are not necessarily down for anything, they can be cajoled, influenced, and taught to be more than mindless jizz buckets, it just takes a little thoughtful effort (which I realize is difficult for most people to do, especially the typical porn producer/director/performer)... but the attempt must be made, and this will also have the palliative effect to weed out the totally dumb, unenthusiastic bimbos and leave us with truly excetional porn chicks in porn scenes we can all enjoy without taking 3 steps backward on the sexual evolutionary scale and be that much closer to being sexual degenerates/sex offenders (in our minds at least.... )
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#149823 - 03/01/06 11:27 AM
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Well, you picked the only 2 good scenes from that entire movie, "From Dusk 'Till Dawn". Well, there was Cheech extolling the virtues of the house pussy, that was good too. I'll have to think a little harder and recall some of the seminal moments of non-porn celluloid arousal in my own life, I'm drawing a blank now . . .
A truly idiotic movie, sorry Burg - normally I'm down with your film choices. For me, this movie was like seeing the Wizard of Oz was just a pathetic guy behind the curtain on the whole Tarantino/Rodriguez cult.
That being said, I have sacrificed millions of little swimmers to Ms. Hayek
I agree, I never extolled the movie itself, just these particular scenes (which no doubt stood out in my mind cuz the movie itself was retarded/sucked ass....much the same as watching ANY Bo Derek movie from the early 1980s, the ONLY reason would be to jerk off to Bo, who in my opinion was the sexiest woman of the 1980s)
This is a subtle Monkey Cage attack on porn itself (or what is typically made today...) I am rebelling by looking for sexual arousal/titillation in so-called mainstream/normal films....I am finding it is worth the effort, and if nothing else, by taking a break from the ridiculously graphic, nothing-left-to-the-imagination grind that exists today, I may return to it semi-refreshed so that I am shock-and-awed again by a relatively new chick like Alicia Alighati getting DP'd or "Dozen-fied" by Brandon Iron....it's like taking a break from Drinking to lower your tolerance and give your liver a timeout, or any other drug for that matter...Porn of course, being a drug too, although no one wants to admit that, because there are already too many examples of drugged out porn chicks being exposed everyday....read lukeisback and his ongoing, pornified version of "Something about Mary (Carey)"....now if there ever was a porn chick who could/should be clean, it's Ms (s)Carey.
Smelly Monkey had even demonstrated to us a number of times the hypocritical ignoring/overlooking of Jenna's Drug Use (my favorite story is the one where she was getting boatloads of Vicodin from some shady mob-related source...) Yes, TOLERANCE needs to be managed...how the fuck do you think straight male stars wind up jaded to the point they start doing Trannies, and other guys? Paging Mr Stagliano, your Drug Cocktail is ready.....
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#149827 - 03/01/06 09:25 PM
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...how the fuck do you think straight male stars wind up jaded to the point they start doing Trannies, and other guys? Paging Mr Stagliano, your Drug Cocktail is ready.....
No less easily than straight female stars end up doing other girls. I never quite got that whole thing where guys can watch bukkake, gagging and puking, and double anal, but the thought of sucking cock still freaks them out. I even once heard it suggested that a male performer might be gay because he sucked a dildo fresh out of a girl's pussy. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
As to your point about adding more creativity in porn and expanding in the realm of novel softcore rather than always going for more and more extreme acts (which will eventually hit a dead-end; you can't go that much further than "Donkey Punch" without the risk of really hurting people), I agree partially, but you have to take into account that the producers of such videos would be taking big risks. There are many tried and true techniques in pornography, the result of ~25 years of experimentation with men's reaction to visual stimuli. Even the new things are usually just slight mutations of something that's been around awhile. (And let's face it: everything there ever was to know about sex was known to the Greeks.) If you try to be creative or artistic you are much more likely to fail than to succeed. The things that make that kind of pornography work are very subtle and difficult to work with. You ever watch a porn scene that was in all its gross elements the same as a thousand other porn scenes (e.g. suck fuck facial) and notice some little accidental thing turning you on (a funny facial expression, an unusual hand motion, etc.)? That's the sort of thing that makes good porn, and if you can make that happen all the time then you have gold. But most pornstars are lousy actresses, and if you make a softcore flick and that new look that you're banking on doesn't come through, and you have no triple cumshot to back you up, you could develop a bad reputation.
That's not to say that the situation is hopeless. There is a great deal more creativity in Japanese pornography that American pornographers would probably do well to emulate. Japanese porn is best known in the West for scat and similar acts, and when it comes to extreme they do indeed have it down better than anybody, but if you take the time to watch some of the softer stuff, you'll notice it's often a lot more detailed and varied. Not that it can't also be trite and repetetive, but in any event I think an American producer would do well to study some of the weirder Japanese stuff that doesn't fall into the categories of "disgusting" or "OMG HAVE YOU SEEN THIS FUCKED UP JAPANESE SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING COMING OUT OF THAT GERBEL????????"
Anyway that's my rant for tonight.
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#149828 - 03/01/06 09:54 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 10/04/05
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I hear you loud and clear sir. Porn, for me, got boring quite a long time ago.. hence I began going back to the vintage stuff. It's very rare now that I find myself truely enjoying something- usually I just pass them or look at them then move on.. rarely does one stop me and demand my attention.
Loop, I think you need to watch more films with Olivia O' Lovely and Luscious Lopez...........You're scaring me.
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#149830 - 03/02/06 09:43 AM
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Gay For Pay
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Loop, I think you need to watch more films with Olivia O' Lovely and Luscious Lopez...........You're scaring me.
Last scene I saw with O'Lovely was her assparade.com scene. Wasn't too taken by it...
Since Tiff & Cumpany nothing seems to be doing for me. On Friday I'm going to the studio to work on some art man.
I love Tiffany!!! But Darkko's films are kind of weak. His movies look stylish but the sex is very underwhelming. He DVD's make me power down.
It's like back in the day when Dallas and Falcon Crest were on TV. Dallas was the better show because they were grimy. Falcon Crest was a good looking cast and shot all cool and shit. But it never had the Kazza factor.
Darkko makes Falcon Crest Porn
Anyway, try these flicks for some quality Olivia O' Lovely footage
Ass Cream Pies****
Ass Worship 5*****
Mami Culo Grande 2****
Bomb Ass White Booty*********************** off the charts
God speed.
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