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Yeah, Drew and Stephanie, I think that is a great joke. You guys engaged in some seriously awkward internet thinking, got caught, and now ADT posters are to think this was just a "momentary lapse of reason," and that no one in the ADT hierarchy is to blame for this screwup

And to date, no one has issued an apology. No one has said, "sorry I allowed my PC to be hacked into," "sorry we had to crash the site for a day," "sorry we had lax security controls, because we have to kiss a** to the talent who can't remember their own names or passwords." I've paid my dues and endured my crap for bad AEE (and other) posts "over there," is the upper management of ADT immune from that same criticism?

To anticipate your post about "the tone of my message," yeah, I'm calling you out. And DenverDon. And the rest of you who said "Aww shucks, thanks for fixing this so soon." Yeah, I AM calling you out. I've bought porn based on reviews housed on your website. I've spent a weekend fixing problems you caused.

Anticipating my anger over this will make me "deactivated" I thank you for reading.



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I have to go along with what Willie D. has said here....to date, I had only made one post on ADT prior to this one (to leave some trader feedback for ikarus), and now I find myself in the same position as Willie in that I've had to spend a good part of my weekend changing all of my passwords related to that email address.

Suffice to say, I've changed them to something completely different than the one ADT has provided me, and they will be staying different. Frankly, this an unbelievable lapse in security, and it stems from an utterly nonsensical practice of having said information kept on an unsecure computer.

I only check my email sporadically, maybe once or twice a week, so I'm lucky I caught this warning when I did, as none of my accounts elsewhere had been compromised when I logged in to change the passwords. Other people may not be so lucky. If I had managed to obtain the information that was hacked, my first point of call would be Paypal or somewhere similar to see if I had any luck. God forbid that the hacker gets lucky, because the kind of negligence that has been displayed here is the stuff lawsuits are made of.

Suffice to say, I for one am extremely disappointed with ADT in this matter.

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You're such an asshole. And I suspect a liar as well.

I pulled up a copy of an old database backup I made prior to the recent password changes just to see what your password was. It was the randomly generated six character string assigned by the forum when you signed up on 1/24 at 5:52 pm. There's no chance in hell that this password remotely resembled anything you used anywhere else.

Good luck in your lawsuit.

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Drew,

I guess you must be right about the assigned password, I just made the assumption that I had the same password here that I have given myself elsewhere...I must not have gotten around to changing it. As it stands, you are correct in your assertion that it would not remotely resemble any other password I was using elsewhere, therefore the risks of having my accounts linked to that email address compromised were minimal to non-existent.

For that I apologise.

However, I do stand by the bulk of my complaint (and to clear things up, I'm not threatening to sue, I'm just saying that a situation like this, bought on by negligent practices, could certainly leave you open to such action), and I think it reflects badly upon the site.

That said, any damage this episode may have done to ADT's reputation (in my own eyes, if nobody else's) pales into insignificance next to the ill-feeling you have created by calling me an 'asshole' in response to my complaint. I've not yet used ADT to make a purchase, and I definitely won't be using it now if that's your attitude.

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Thank you. The feeling is mutual. Run along now as it appears that you have no reason to visit this site any longer.

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Adult DVD Talk is a Friendly Community
Treat fellow posters as neighbors. Do not antagonize your neighbors. Please be respectful of each other and each other's threads. If what someone has posted angers you, wait until you calm down before you respond. Thinking before posting is a lesson we all learn and re-learn.

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Like I said, I didn't have any interest in the spat between XPT and ADT before, and just brushed off all of the nasty comments about ADT's management as part of the parcel of this inter-board brouhaha. Now I see first hand it's all true and then some.

So, let me just say that Brothers and Sisters, I have seen the light and the error of my ways.

Fuck ADT, I'm XPT for life now, and it's all thanks to Drew Black.

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No doubt had I responded by calling Drew an asshole, or a condescending, arrogant prick, I would have been deactivated.

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Fuck ADT, I'm XPT for life now, and it's all thanks to Drew Black.

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They didn't just "deactivate" me, they banned an entire IP range.

Can I get a box of Pop-Tarts for that?

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You certainly can, but the box is kept deep inside Steph's womb, since it is unlikely to ever serve any useful purpose. Your options include going forearm deep into her vagina to get it, but the urge to gnaw off the tainted part of your arms will be overwhelming.

There is another way to get to the Pop-Tarts if you feel the need:

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Fuck ADT, I'm XPT for life now, and it's all thanks to Drew Black.

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Does anyone else think that sounds ridiculous? I'm not picking on you DanG, but you just articulated the exact thing some of the "ADT Loyalists" (Trademark, ACCream) use to describe us "XPTers" and this board.

You don't have to pick one or the other. You don't have to put on your tinfoil hats or draw your wooden swords. It's just not life or death, do or die.

I've noticed Malice, and even Jeff have been quiet about this incident. I have no inside or backchannel knowledge, but I suspect it's because they know this or something similar could happen here. In fact, something similar did happen here about a year ago, and it was rectified without any loss of life. Without some cooperation from "that other site" it might never have been corrected.

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No, I can see where you are coming from...as I said before in my post, I took no sides in the ADT/XPT battle whatsoever, and had no interest in it either. However, that was before Drew responded to a perfectly legitimate complaint by calling me an asshole. I didn't respond in kind, nor up the ante by calling him a fucking asshole, but rather admitted and apologised for a mistake I had made. He then comes back with a condescending response.

If I may contrast the above with an experience I had with JM Productions, the evil whore degrading bad boys of the industry? I recently tried to watch a volume of Gag Factor via JM's VOD service. I checked all the conditions, saw that my system met or exceeded them, and paid up. Then I get a pop up window telling me I need to upgrade to a newer version of DivX to view the movie, so I download the upgrade and go to install it...it won't do it, because DivX no longer supports the operating system my computer runs. So I'm fucked.

I email JM with my complaint. I get a prompt, courteous and apologetic (even though I believe the fault lies with DivX on this one) reply from Tony Malice, and a full refund too. No condescension, no one calling me 'asshole'. The net result of this little exchange? I join GagFactor.com instead, meaning Jeff got $29.95 out of me rather than $9.95 (Yes, I know he doesn't get the full amount, but you get the picture).

Oh, and having watched the Aurora Snow and Cherry Poppins scenes that CAOH is so enamoured of, let me just say... !

I don't have any particular axe to grind with ADT (I've never had any contact or run-ins with Steph, for example), but I'll be damned if I'm putting any money in Drew Black's pocket. Maybe you are correct in saying the same thing could happen at XPT, but if it did, I think the response would be markedly different. Jeff seems enough of a straight-talker to be able to put his hand up and say 'We fucked up, we're sorry', which is something that can't be said of Drew. I'm not 100% surprised at the hostility Willie D got, because I suspect he has previous form over on ADT, but I don't, therefore I was somewhat taken aback by Drew's response to my complaint.

I also concur with your sentiments that it's not do or die, life or death, either/or...it's just that XPT is the polar opposite of ADT. I had no interest in picking one or the other (I was quite happy using both), but that was before my little interaction with Drew. I'll still be using other boards, but ADT can go fuck themselves as far as I'm concerned.

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In fact, something similar did happen here about a year ago, and it was rectified without any loss of life.

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They didn't just "deactivate" me, they banned an entire IP range.

Can I get a box of Pop-Tarts for that?

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They didn't just "deactivate" me, they banned an entire IP range.

Can I get a box of Pop-Tarts for that?

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You've got some stiff competition in the ip ban stakes.

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You're right. And if getting those Pop Tarts requires what Phlog suggested, I'll just stick to toast and eggs.



This reminds me of a scene from The Dirty Dozen, the scene where Col. Breed finds out the real identiity of Maj. Reisman's prisoners, and delivers a stern rebuke to the Major. Lee Marvin stands and listens to Robert Ryan tear into him. His only reply: "Colonel, the said you were a cold, heartless man. But you're really quite...passionate...aren't you."

I'm going to live with Andrew's ban and not go back to ADT. He's right, I like to stir shit up...I like to be an asshole.

You know, I was all ready to say this post may my dick hard, I want to jerk off to it, you know. But it really doesn't. It's really kind of funny (funny-sad, not funny-haha) that a guy who pretends to be so even-keeled would melt down like that. This guy has run a porn website for 6 years now, and suddenly flips his lid when he gets called out over a poor business decision. What gives? I haven't been here for 6 damn months, much less there. But it's OK, I know enough about porn to know what I like and don't like, I certainly don't need some website to tell me what gets me hard. I'll have a letter to Andrew up later, and it's case closed as far as I'm concerned.