your still wrong. Net videogirls still owns luke ford. trust me on this one. Fagner definatly doesnt own it. he deosnt even own a car. I know all the players on the site WELL. Anthony still is the owner. Check the "who is" on the site and you will see. the real like ford has no idea about the site. It hasnt been his in years. And as for the piss thing yeah its 200. but thats a good rate. People like gen padova drank piss for 50 bucks at Extreme. Think about it. a girl will take a load in the mouth for a 30 min BJ scene and get paid 200 bucks. or she can get a mouth full of piss for 200 for 2 min of work. girls will do ass to mouth all the time. thats worse to me than any piss drinking. I wouldnt eat the turd if i was a girl in the biz...but to each his own, right?