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#12872 - 12/30/03 11:27 AM The most over hyped company of the year is ......
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Red Light District .With all of the average porn they produced this year Red Light sure received a lot of press .Lets all hope that the hot company next year at least lives up to the hype .
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#12873 - 12/30/03 01:11 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ......
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#12874 - 12/30/03 06:15 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ......
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Red Light District .With all of the average porn they produced this year Red Light sure received a lot of press .Lets all hope that the hot company next year at least lives up to the hype .






The way Red Light is set up,it will always be the top 3 in gonzo. Until at least 2035. Yo Dion, do not give up ownership of Red Light. just need a break from it.




overrated company of the year: AdultFYI.com
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#12875 - 12/30/03 11:18 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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I totally agree about Red Light District. They shoot sex scenes, nothing groundbreaking. They use some good girls, some aren't all that. Why is their gonzo any better than any other gonzo? I don't think they have anyone who can hold a candle to Jules Jordan, Tom Byron or Joey Silvera.
Not to mention John Leslie or Stagliano. It'll be interesting to see how they fare without Dion's bullshit machine behind them...

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#12876 - 12/31/03 01:26 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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He'll be there. I have to agree I like stuff from Rocco, Jules and most at EA but what I meant in top 3, I meant sales, Rev. profits. I don't know pricing for production but from what I see is Dion can make a dollar out of .15 cents.
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#12877 - 12/31/03 03:02 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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red light district and platinum x both suck. boring sex with boring male performers.

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#12878 - 12/31/03 06:57 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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He'll be there. I have to agree I like stuff from Rocco, Jules and most at EA but what I meant in top 3, I meant sales, Rev. profits. I don't know pricing for production but from what I see is Dion can make a dollar out of .15 cents.




How do you know how much RLD is doing in revenue? How do you know how much EA is doing in revenue?? I don't think you have a clue as to who is shipping how much, but if you do, I'm impressed.

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#12879 - 12/31/03 09:48 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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He'll be there. I have to agree I like stuff from Rocco, Jules and most at EA but what I meant in top 3, I meant sales, Rev. profits. I don't know pricing for production but from what I see is Dion can make a dollar out of .15 cents.




How do you know how much RLD is doing in revenue? How do you know how much EA is doing in revenue?? I don't think you have a clue as to who is shipping how much, but if you do, I'm impressed.





It also depends on who has money and who doesn't. You're right i don't have a fucking clue what they ship. From my younger days of balling, I can see when something or ideas works. you got Red Light pumping 2 DVD's a week gurantee. From the 20 or so places I look for sales charts I can also see Red Light makes sales wherever it's at. I see Dion making $75,000-$100,000 on every $10,000-$15,000 spent. Now those aren't real numbers. I just gave a range of what I see.


Evil angel for sure has the better production vaule, but for some reason I seen them stalling the last year on so on US biz. Jules Jordan is the expcenption. I know EA wants to keep a low profile and all but I also thing there losing biz big time and one main reason is JS wife who happens to be at a board we all hate. Just the other day some porn fan asked jules at ADT if there was going to a Lex 3 in the series before you know it Tricia comes on and post "where did you here that gossip, must be listening tothe wrong grapvive" Luckly someposter called her out saying" does Jules have to get permission to move an inch?" She comes back and says, "what i meant was we here at the heart of the company where everything is taking place,we would know if there was one coming out" Jules finally came on later and posted. But right there I could see EA isn't making as much as they could be.


Who knows, I could be 100% wrong.
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#12880 - 01/01/04 07:26 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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well, with dion doing cash $5 deals out the back door on movies and stealing from his directors, no wonder there is a flood of RLD product, they dont hold a candle to any company that doesnt whore their price, like evil angel, I hear they get $15 wholesale, compare that to a $5 red light price.

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#12881 - 01/01/04 11:28 AM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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well, with dion doing cash $5 deals out the back door on movies and stealing from his directors, no wonder there is a flood of RLD product, they dont hold a candle to any company that doesnt whore their price, like evil angel, I hear they get $15 wholesale, compare that to a $5 red light price.




Red light spends little money to make lots of money. EA spends lots of money to makes lots of money.


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#12882 - 01/01/04 02:12 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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well, with dion doing cash $5 deals out the back door on movies and stealing from his directors, no wonder there is a flood of RLD product, they dont hold a candle to any company that doesnt whore their price, like evil angel, I hear they get $15 wholesale, compare that to a $5 red light price.




Red light spends little money to make lots of money. EA spends lots of money to makes lots of money.






Once again, how do you know? And furthermore, isn't it worth spending more (assuming they do, which you don't really know) in order to get some of the highest wholesale prices on the market?

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#12883 - 01/01/04 06:27 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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Red light spends little money to make lots of money. EA spends lots of money to makes lots of money.






Once again, how do you know? And furthermore, isn't it worth spending more (assuming they do, which you don't really know) in order to get some of the highest wholesale prices on the market?





Once again, how do you know?

>>>>> I Don't know. I can tell you that all my life I have always been good in numbers. I can read a companies balence sheet and pin point things faster that the avg. person. Back in 1998-99 I daytraded and learned from the best.

isn't it worth spending more (assuming they do, which you don't really know) in order to get some of the highest wholesale prices on the market?



>>>I don't think so, Always good to compete. Higher prices mean higer inflation in the long run. No business wants that.





again, as you pointed out Owen, I don't have a friggin clue what they do and don't do.i post so I can amuse myself.
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#12884 - 01/01/04 07:58 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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2pac says:
I don't think so, Always good to compete. Higher prices mean higer inflation in the long run. No business wants that.

Owen Says: So, let me get this straight, you think a company should sell their product for as little as possible? This is an interesting statement given that their is a definet ceiling to the market and that your catalog is forever doomed.

2pac says:
again, as you pointed out Owen, I don't have a friggin clue what they do and don't do.i post so I can amuse myself.

Owen Says: Glad to see this.

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#12885 - 01/01/04 10:09 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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2pac says:
I don't think so, Always good to compete. Higher prices mean higer inflation in the long run. No business wants that.

Owen Says: So, let me get this straight, you think a company should sell their product for as little as possible? This is an interesting statement given that their is a definet ceiling to the market and that your catalog is forever doomed.







No,you look at it from EA angle. I am looking it at Red Lights angle. Red Light had to come in and undercut to even get in the game. Now that Red light came in and undercut everyone, all the other studios(including EA) have to be competive to stay in the game. EA can keep up because they have been here for a long time and have money for back up.


How is Zero Tolerence competing? or DIVX, Sinplex, and others. I'm sure it's tough for them.
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#12886 - 01/01/04 10:33 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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2pac says:
I don't think so, Always good to compete. Higher prices mean higer inflation in the long run. No business wants that.

Owen Says: So, let me get this straight, you think a company should sell their product for as little as possible? This is an interesting statement given that their is a definet ceiling to the market and that your catalog is forever doomed.







No,you look at it from EA angle. I am looking it at Red Lights angle. Red Light had to come in and undercut to even get in the game. Now that Red light came in and undercut everyone, all the other studios(including EA) have to be competive to stay in the game. EA can keep up because they have been here for a long time and have money for back up.


How is Zero Tolerence competing? or DIVX, Sinplex, and others. I'm sure it's tough for them.




Why would it be tough for them? Competition may be of concern, but their overall pricing is roughly the same give or take a couple of bucks. Are they at RLD's previous prices? No. Should they be? No. They all put out quality product and are ahead of the game in terms of consumer satisfaction.
Undercutting works for retailers more than wholesalers. Retailers are forced to by sheer neccessity. For a production company, I guess it's a good way to get noticed, but it won't carry you through in the long run. Quality and consistency will.
Whatever, I won't specualte on companies that I don't know shit about, nor make broad sweeping statements based on 'sales charts' or 'top ten lists' as these may or may not be baseed on a sites actualt sales vs. what a site wants to sell.
There's just no telling for sure and at the end of the day, does it really matter?

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#12887 - 01/01/04 10:48 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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2pac says:
I don't think so, Always good to compete. Higher prices mean higer inflation in the long run. No business wants that.

Owen Says: So, let me get this straight, you think a company should sell their product for as little as possible? This is an interesting statement given that their is a definet ceiling to the market and that your catalog is forever doomed.







No,you look at it from EA angle. I am looking it at Red Lights angle. Red Light had to come in and undercut to even get in the game. Now that Red light came in and undercut everyone, all the other studios(including EA) have to be competive to stay in the game. EA can keep up because they have been here for a long time and have money for back up.


How is Zero Tolerence competing? or DIVX, Sinplex, and others. I'm sure it's tough for them.




Why would it be tough for them? Competition may be of concern, but their overall pricing is roughly the same give or take a couple of bucks. Are they at RLD's previous prices? No. Should they be? No. They all put out quality product and are ahead of the game in terms of consumer satisfaction.
Undercutting works for retailers more than wholesalers. Retailers are forced to by sheer neccessity. For a production company, I guess it's a good way to get noticed, but it won't carry you through in the long run. Quality and consistency will.
Whatever, I won't specualte on companies that I don't know shit about, nor make broad sweeping statements based on 'sales charts' or 'top ten lists' as these may or may not be baseed on a sites actualt sales vs. what a site wants to sell.
There's just no telling for sure and at the end of the day, does it really matter?





See you think I'm talking shit about those companiers butI'm not. I think all 3 are awesome. your right the price range is all about the same so that's why it must be harder for them to market because their name is new and just getting out there.
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#12888 - 01/01/04 10:56 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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See you think I'm talking shit about those companiers butI'm not. I think all 3 are awesome. your right the price range is all about the same so that's why it must be harder for them to market because their name is new and just getting out there.




I don't think you're talking shit. I just think you say things that are perhaps a bit uninformed is all. When I ask questions, it's to try to figure out exactly what you're saying.

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#12889 - 01/02/04 12:50 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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Pornstar2pack get your head out of yer ass . Dion must really suck your cock good because there aint any other reason to defend him like you do . Dion is a scum bag and a thief , deal with it . .

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#12890 - 01/02/04 04:47 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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I don't know pricing for production but from what I see is Dion can make a dollar out of .15 cents.




No ,Dion steals a dollar and then sells it for .15 cents .You had it backwards .
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#12891 - 01/02/04 09:11 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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Alright. My new years resolution is to get more involved instead of just lurking so here goes...

I've heard the accusations and read all the gossip about Red Light District. My take on the story is this. In order to get a foothold in this industry, you have to either have very novel content OR be willing to do what it takes to get the product out there.

I'm not condoning any alleged unethical activities by former management but I'll tell you one thing. Red Light has enjoyed astounding growth that will ultimately benefit those left in the company. They have huge name recognition with consumers and continue to pump out titles.

As far as I see it, distribution plus consumer recognition equals continued success... whether anybody in the industry likes it or not.

Don't flame me too bad for an unpopular opinion.

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#12892 - 01/02/04 09:29 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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I'm not condoning any alleged unethical activities by former management but I'll tell you one thing. Red Light has enjoyed astounding growth that will ultimately benefit those left in the company. They have huge name recognition with consumers and continue to pump out titles.

As far as I see it, distribution plus consumer recognition equals continued success... whether anybody in the industry likes it or not.

Don't flame me too bad for an unpopular opinion.




You can't possibly expect to post a comment without a reply, can you?
Nobody has ever questioned the success of Red Light, not here at least. What people have questioned is the same thing that you will not 'condone' - questionable ethics.
Anyway, I checked out your site, not too bad. Lots of RLD, Jet and Wildlife content. Will you be adding more to it or is this it?

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#12893 - 01/02/04 09:31 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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#12894 - 01/02/04 09:34 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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Never mind. I switched from Firebird browser to IE.
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#12895 - 01/05/04 02:02 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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We're constantly adding new studios/videos and always on the lookout for more.

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#12896 - 01/05/04 03:01 PM Re: The most over hyped company of the year is ...
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Hey I dont believe that hehe...not all the scenes are boring I just recently had the chance to do a scene for platx and let me tell you it wasnt boring it was actually one of my best scenes ..and I have done quite a few good scenes for fed light district as well

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