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Saying that nobody can discuss something until there is proof is a sure way of starting another HIV outbreak. Your attitude is exactly the one that got Tricia Deveraux and others HIV+.

Prior to Marc Wallice being unmasked there were rumors about him but nothing definitive. What shut Marc down was not sweeping the rumors under the rug but rather Luke Ford (yes, he deserves almost sole credit), who posted stories everywhere and wouldn't quit until Patrick Collins was forced to make Marc take an honest test. And Lo, that ended a string of HIV infections that had gone on for a year.

At the point of time of the ADT posts you already had industry participants on record on the issue in addition to whatever Luke posted: why not encourage other talent to ask questions? Isabel Ice is not well served by being told "nothing to see here; move along". You would be doing Isabel a favor to leave the thread open and asking "Orange Paddy" to carefully explain how the risks affect her, and suggesting that Isabel call or email friends to see what's up. Few seem to understand the parameters of the medical risks the talent take; situations like this are an opportunity to clear up those issues.

Ignorance is not bliss here, and prohibiting discussion on these thing falls firmly in the “encouraging ignorance” category.



I'll grant you that my choice of words when locking the "Hell on Wheels" thread may not have been the best, but when the poster is clearly trolling then I'm not one to give the benefit of the doubt.

I don't have a particular dislike of Luke or anything, but I know he posts anything that anyone tells him, so when someone who is clearly trolling quotes Luke as his source, I'll tend to take it with a bucket of salt. In this case, I'm guilty of judging Luke's page guilty by association with who was quoting it.

I'm not sure what you're talking about with regard to Isabel Ice asking questions and "Orange Paddy"? I've been offline for a couple of hours just now. I don't see any problems with people talking about the Shane Diesel situation on any relevent web board, and as I said earlier today, helpme's posts, on this board and in this thread are a great example of talking about the issue rationally without trolling.

I certainly think that Isabel's post in the Hell on Wheels thread is extremely naive at best, and I'd expect anyone in the industry with more than a few brain cells to be asking their agents and producers a shitton of serious questions and asking each other who they've worked with.

I just checked ADT, and Drew has started a thread where people are welcome to post on the topic as adults. I welcome anyone from XPT who's interested enough (and can post without trolling and snipes to the website) to discuss the issue, as I can't see any problems with people discussing the Shane Diesel issue maturely.

cheers,

scipio