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#124539 - 10/17/05 04:20 PM A History of Violence
lorddissecther Offline
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Has anyone seen this film? Cronenberg did a wonderful job realizing this graphic novel without turning it into an auteur film. He has finally redeemed himself from the mediocrity of "Spider" and "Existanze".

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#124540 - 10/17/05 04:49 PM Re: A History of Violence
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ummm are we talking about the same film? i went to the screening and he had no idea about the graphic novel story. Some people asked him why he didn't include some characters and he asked the forum host what they were talking about.
And did you just call Existenz medicore?

Cronenberg: Approved!
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#124541 - 10/17/05 04:55 PM Re: A History of Violence
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I only know that it was a graphic novel because i noticed the names of the writer and artist. John Wagner was a writer for Sandman Mystery Thteatre (DC Comics) and Vince Locke is notorious for his Cannibal Corpse Album Covers. Im sure the screenwriters changed a few things,and the lack of knowledge from Cronenberg is probably a good thing meaning he didnt read the graphic novel which means he couldnt get the chance to potentially fuck it up. His last good movie before this was Dead Ringers.

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#124542 - 10/17/05 04:59 PM Re: A History of Violence
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He has finally redeemed himself from the mediocrity of "Spider" and "Existanze".




Wait... Existenz was mediocre?
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#124543 - 10/17/05 05:04 PM Re: A History of Violence
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I saw it, despite the presence of pseudo-Eurotrash Viggo Mortensen. The reviews on rottentomatoes.com suggested it was supposed to be some sort of analysis of America's fascination with violence, blah, blah, etc. I thought it was just a dumb action movie myself. Either way, it looks like the movie bombed so Viggo can join Alec Baldwin on Hollywood Squares. Good riddance.

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#124544 - 10/17/05 05:11 PM Re: A History of Violence
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any movie that's titled to rip off georgie sorel's fucking masterpiece is on my shitlist.
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#124545 - 10/17/05 05:32 PM Re: A History of Violence
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I saw it, despite the presence of pseudo-Eurotrash Viggo Mortensen.




Just because he's European doesn't make him "trash", you jingoistic flag-waver! If you were on ADT, I'd ban you all over again.

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#124546 - 10/17/05 05:36 PM Re: A History of Violence
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I'm sure there could be a number of people who were ready to play the main characters, but besides that point, I don't think it was a film about Americas fascination with violence. I found it to be a story of a man with an existential dilemma. a Battle between what he once was and who he is now; that despite his attempts as anonymity, he could not escape the past because the past was part of his existential project, hence his attempt to delude the past was an act of Sartrian bad faith. The film also seems to touch basis on the biology of violence, whether it is learned or passed on through genes in respect to the pacifistic, reasonable son in the film. Yet the dynamic of violence is also intertwined with sex and death with respect to the relationship between the main character and his wife, taking on a Bataillian relationship between violence, sex, death and orgasm.

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#124547 - 10/17/05 05:58 PM Re: A History of Violence
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i find jingoism and flag-waving quite entertaining. excuse me while i watch monday night football and flip to wrestling during the commercials.
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#124548 - 10/17/05 09:16 PM Re: A History of Violence
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i find jingoism and flag-waving quite entertaining. excuse me while i watch monday night football and flip to wrestling during the commercials.




You and your testosterone make me sick. Why can't you shop, paint your nails, and pee sitting down, like us civilized womyn and European men?

Neanderthal.

Why the let you live in a shangri-la like the great Ted Kennedy's Massachusetts is beyond me.

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#124549 - 10/17/05 09:44 PM Re: A History of Violence
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then whisper me sweet nothings about sorel. or kill peasants. either way i'm satisfied, sexy.
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#124550 - 10/17/05 09:55 PM Re: A History of Violence
Steph Offline
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Registered: 10/14/05
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Why do you want to hear about waterproof women's boots? You must be some sort of pervert foot fetishist. Sicko.

Why can't you watch Hungarian animal porn, like normal humyns?

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#124551 - 10/17/05 10:04 PM Re: A History of Violence
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Registered: 09/13/05
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Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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then whisper me sweet nothings about sorel. or kill peasants. either way i'm satisfied, sexy.




I'd prefer the killing of peasants, personally. I never had much patience for Marxists or Frenchmen and Sorel was both.

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#124552 - 10/17/05 10:42 PM Re: A History of Violence
jamesn Offline
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have you read his shit? he's 85% random, mischeivous violence, 15% socialist. i troll wikipedia, don't quote it-trust me.
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#124553 - 10/17/05 10:47 PM Re: A History of Violence
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Registered: 09/13/05
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Okey-dokey. No more quoting Wikipedia. Gotcha.

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#124554 - 10/17/05 10:49 PM Re: A History of Violence
jamesn Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
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phlog-you'd LOVE trolling there with your general breadth of knowledge. there's a very small learning curve with their slashdotty-lexicon. then you're golden. go change the barbary corsair article, that was next up for me, it's a cakewalk-just make it wrong/offensively so.
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#124555 - 10/17/05 10:56 PM Re: A History of Violence
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Registered: 09/13/05
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Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
Could be fun.

I might find an organic chemistry article and post syntheses for methamphetamine. I read once that soem American high school history texts featured misprints about how Waterloo was Napoleon's greatest victory, so, in that sense, I'm extending occidental education to people across the globe. If I'm really bad, I'll edit MLK's biography with links directly to Stormfront.com or something similar. These people should know better than to trust in the public to behave ethically. Fools.

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