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#122548 - 10/06/05 02:08 PM
Woman kicked off plane for anti-Bush shirt
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
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A Washington state woman intends to press a civil-rights case against Southwest Airlines for booting her off a flight in Reno after fellow passengers complained about a message on her T-shirt.
Lorrie Heasley, of Woodland, Wash., was halfway home on a flight Tuesday that began in Los Angeles, wearing a T-shirt with the pictures of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and a phrase similar to the popular film, Meet the Fockers.
Heasley said she wore the T-shirt as a gag. She wanted her parents, who are Democrats, to see it when they picked her up at the airport in Portland, Ore.
"I just thought it was hilarious," said Heasley, 32, a lumber saleswoman.
And she felt she had the right to wear it.
"I have cousins in Iraq and other relatives going to war," she said. "Here we are trying to free another country and I have to get off an airplane in midflight over a T-shirt. That's not freedom."
Southwest Airlines spokeswoman Marilee McInnis said the T-shirt became an issue after several passengers complained. She said the airline's contract filed with the Federal Aviation Administration contains rules on passenger conduct.
Heasley said no one from Southwest said anything about the shirt when she waited two hours near the gate at Los Angeles International Airport. And neither the pilot, nor other crewmembers, said anything when she boarded the aircraft, Heasley added.
After the plane stopped in Reno at noon Tuesday, she and her husband, Ron, moved to the front of the plane. Passengers began complaining about the T-shirt as they boarded.
After several conversations with flight attendants, Heasley agreed to cover the words by cuddling up with a sweatshirt. When the sweatshirt slipped while she was trying to sleep, she was ordered to wear her T-shirt inside-out or leave. The couple chose to leave.
McInnis said the rules filed with the FAA say the airline will deny boarding to any customer whose conduct is offensive, abusive, disorderly or violent or for clothing that is "lewd, obscene, or patently offensive."
Allen Lichtenstein, lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union in Nevada, said Heasley's T-shirt is "protected" political speech under the Constitution. The real issue, he said, is that the airline allowed her to wear the shirt onboard and then objected only when people complained.
"That they changed rules in the middle of a flight simply because someone didn't like it and it might be problematic," he said.
FAA spokesman Donn Walker said no federal rules exist on the subject.
"It's up to the airlines who they want to take and by what rules," he said. "The government just doesn't get into the business of what people wear on an aircraft."
"At any point when a passenger has a complaint against another and it becomes an issue that could disrupt the flight, our attendants have the discretion to take the appropriate action," said Phil Gee, spokesman for US Airways.
Heasley said she is in touch with ACLU lawyers in Seattle. She wants Southwest to reimburse the couple for the last leg of their trip and pay for her gasoline, a $68 rental car from Avis and a $70 hotel bill.
Before leaving the plane, she said she was told the airline would reimburse her for the tickets for the last leg of the flight. After they got off the plane, they were told they'd be reimbursed only for the taxes on the tickets. McInnis said customer services officials are looking into the matter.
After fighting over the ticket prices, the couple got a hotel room in Reno, rented a car and got home Wednesday afternoon — about 24 hours after they left the plane.
"I have always flown Southwest everywhere I go," Heasley said. "I will never fly with them again. They can disrespect somebody else."
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#122550 - 10/06/05 08:39 PM
Re: Woman kicked off plane for anti-Bush shirt
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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McInnis said the rules filed with the FAA say the airline will deny boarding to any customer whose conduct is offensive, abusive, disorderly or violent or for clothing that is "lewd, obscene, or patently offensive."
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Lorrie Heasley, of Woodland, Wash., was halfway home on a flight Tuesday that began in Los Angeles, wearing a T-shirt with the pictures of President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and a phrase similar to the popular film, Meet the Fockers.
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Allen Lichtenstein, lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union in Nevada, said Heasley's T-shirt is "protected" political speech under the Constitution.
Perhaps this ACLU ambulance chaser would like to show me where one has a constitutional right to be on private property? (In this case, the airplane.)
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#122554 - 10/08/05 09:03 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/10/04
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#122555 - 10/08/05 09:09 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Remember this picture when your freedoms are taken away. His hand is in the wrong position they should be like this becouse thats all this idot has done for America.
Morons should never be leaders.
and remember the spell check button is free you cum stain
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#122556 - 10/08/05 09:31 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/10/04
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#122557 - 10/08/05 09:39 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Remember this picture when your freedoms are taken away. His hand is in the wrong position they should be like this becouse thats all this idot has done for America.
Morons should never be leaders.
and remember the spell check button is free you cum stain
You can go back to sucking your boyfreinds dick now. Isn't his name Jeff Gavin? I did use spell check but for some reason it didn't work.
I would, I just don't like standing in line, especially behind ball hogs like yourself. Apple?
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#122558 - 10/08/05 09:50 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 05/06/05
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#122560 - 10/08/05 10:01 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Max Hardcore's offices raided, PissMops has been taken down, and 2,000 Americans have died in Iraq, and 200 have died becaue of Bush's cronyism and incompetence regarding Katrina, and your still defending Bush and his administration. How fucking retarded are you Have2cit? Isn't about time you catch up with the rest of the US. 37 percent bitch! Hey, Fox News is lying to you. It's not ALL GOOD! Good American boys and girls are dying everyday for Haliburton profits bitch and you know it.
When Bush and Gonzalez have completely taken away your right to watch porn, I imagine you'll still be bitching about Hillary Clinton and the Dems -- even under your new name Phlomongistic of whatever. Fucking retard.
Maybe you should dig out some more passports to divert our attention from the real facts at hand -- typical Republican move! Stupid fucking bitch!
Defending Bush, I think not. Just bitch slapping an asshole much like I have to do to you on a regular basis.
It’s idiotic narrow-minded pinhead extremists like you that are ruining this world. Your kind is just as bad as the bible thumper who forces their views on others. The same as the eco-terrorists who spike the trees with metal bars in order to hurt and kill the lumberjack that’s cutting it down. The PETA thugs that splash red paint on people who wear leather or fur believe in their wacko doctrine just as strongly and myopically as you believe yours. The liberal extremists do have a belief that they are actually helping people just as the hardcore Muslims believe they are helping the infidel when they put them to sword to convert them.
There are still some of us who believe that government regulation is not the answer to all the worlds’ ills. That lifestyle and choice shouldn’t be dictated to our children in schools by the government.
You are the terrorist jamie. Thank you for putting the hippie back in to hypocrite.
Your not funny, your not smart, nor are you insightful in any kind of imaginable way, you’re just pathetic, I do pity you though and all your kind.
I’m through wasting my breath on you. You’re a sad excuse of a human being. From now on you only warrant the graemlin treatment.
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#122562 - 10/08/05 10:08 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
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Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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When Bush and Gonzalez have completely taken away your right to watch porn, I imagine you'll still be bitching about Hillary Clinton and the Dems -- even under your new name Phlomongistic of whatever. Fucking retard.
How nice of Bush to let us go nearly two terms without banning porn! If you can stop masturbating to Fahrenheit 9/11 for a few moments, you may find this interesting:
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A new federal proposal that would levy stiff taxes on Internet pornographers violates constitutional guarantees of freedom of expression, legal scholars say.
Sen. Blanche Lincoln, an Arkansas Democrat, characterized her bill introduced last week as a way to make the Internet a "safer place" for children. The bill would impose a 25 percent tax on the revenue of most adult-themed Web sites.
"Many adult-oriented Web sites in today's online world are not only failing to keep products unsuitable for children from view, but are also pushing those products in children's faces," Lincoln said. "And it's time that we stand up and say, 'enough is enough.'"
But legal scholars who specialize in the First Amendment say courts have rejected similar taxes in the past--and are likely to do so again, if Lincoln's proposal becomes law.
"The general principle is that if you can't ban a certain category of expression, then you cannot selectively impose a tax on it," said Jamin Raskin, a professor of constitutional law at American University. "So if the speech that the senator is targeting is protected by the First Amendment, it may not be selectively taxed."
"The bottom line is, if it were constitutional to tax a disfavored category of speaker, then there would be 99 percent taxes on pornography and hate speakers and Howard Stern and so on," Raskin said. "But the courts understand that the power to tax ultimately is the power to destroy."
Jerome Barron, a former dean of George Washington University Law School who teaches First Amendment law, noted that the Supreme Court in 1936 rejected a 2 percent tax on newspapers with circulations of more than 20,000 copies a week.
"You can't use the taxation power as a weapon of censorship," Barron said.
A more recent Supreme Court case, Minneapolis Star v. Minnesota Commissioner of Revenue, tossed out a Minnesota law taxing paper and ink products used by newspapers.
Lincoln's bill, called the Internet Safety and Child Protection Act of 2005, would apply only to adult sites subject to controversial record-keeping requirements regarding the identities of people participating in sex acts displayed on Web sites. Those sites must cough up the taxes and use age verification techniques "prior to the display of any pornographic material, including free content."
The Supreme Court has largely rebuffed Congress' previous attempts at Internet censorship. It rejected the Communications Decency Act's prohibition on "indecent" material, and upheld an injunction against the Child Online Protection Act, which targeted "harmful to minors" material online.
Other Senate sponsors of the legislation--all Democrats--include Thomas Carper of Delaware, Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana, Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut, Ken Salazar of Colorado, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, Evan Bayh of Indiana and Kent Conrad of North Dakota.
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Political Science 101: The power to tax is the power to kill. And it looks like your sacrosanct Democratic party is out to kill porn, not just all-purpose scapegoat Bush.
Stick to the "OMG!!1! Halliburton is teh Evil!!!1!!! No war 4 oil!!!" blather next time, Jamie.
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#122566 - 10/08/05 10:26 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Is that your only defense? Everyone who disagrees with you must be the same person? God Damn you are a stupid mother fucker. Why don't you just lay off the Molson for tonight and come back when you can think more clearly (ya like that will help ).
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#122568 - 10/08/05 10:29 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
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Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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Do you realize that if Bush has his way, you right to watch porn will be taken away. Wake the fuck up.
A woman was kicked off a plane because of a T-shirt!
A fucking T-shirt!
Taliban anyone!
37 percent approval rating -- An American poll!
Of course, you didn't reply to my post regarding who is really trying to ban porn.
As a Canadian, I doubt you'll understand this, but here goes. The reason she was kicked off the plane has to do with two words not understood too well outside America: private property.
The airlines had a pre-existing policy regarding the display of vulgarity ("Meet the Fuckers") on their property - in this case their airplane - and she presented with the option of covering the vulgarity or leaving the airline's property. She chose to leave. No "rights" were violated here. No Taliban style political persecution is going on. She disobeyed the rules and was asked to leave. Case closed.
Don't ejaculate too much to the poll numbers. Bush is in his second term and can't run for a third, and the next congressional election cycle isn't soon. Being popular or unpopular isn't tremendously important at this point.
Use dictionary.com is my words were too big for you to understand.
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#122569 - 10/08/05 10:33 PM
Re: Woman kicked off plane for anti-Bush shirt
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Human Garbage
Registered: 09/13/05
Posts: 1594
Loc: The "Phlogbox", apparently.
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What's FARENHEIT 9/11, he is kidding right??
If he isn't, it suggests he is far too oblivious for his political opinions to be worth listening to.
If he's is, it means he had no cogent argument to other things I posted.
In either case, the guy is an idiot. Case closed.
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#122570 - 10/08/05 10:34 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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#122572 - 10/08/05 10:51 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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#122573 - 10/08/05 11:26 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
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What are you talking about?
I don't drink. Typical redneck stereotype -- Canadians are drinkers. Yes, Have2cit, and we live in tents too. Remember when you thought we lived in tents? Yes, we are an industrial nation, and you thought we lived in tents.
I said igloos bitch.
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I think it's time that you dug out some more passports to divert attention.
Can’t I just dodge the issues and spout useless political dogma like you?
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Yes, everybody is laughing, but not not at me.
If I was as stupid as you I guess I could con myself into believing that too.
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Fucking tents!
No, igloos!
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#122574 - 10/09/05 04:44 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 12/10/04
Posts: 261
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I would, I just don't like standing in line, especially behind ball hogs like yourself. Apple?
No Apple here, Just beta. You have such a pleasant personality, have you considered therapy?
I hate demoncrats but after hearing you rant I might reconsider.
Edited by Too Damned Ugly (10/09/05 04:48 AM)
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Killing christians is so cool.
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#122575 - 10/09/05 05:20 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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I would, I just don't like standing in line, especially behind ball hogs like yourself. Apple?
No Apple here, Just beta. You have such a pleasant personality, have you considered therapy?
I hate demoncrats but after hearing you rant I might reconsider.
I reserve my venom for human douche bags like you. I'm sure you can find respite from me in the great white north with what's left of the draft dodgers and the french. Au revoir dick hole.
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