Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/25/05
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It is significant since, while great social power is opposed to white racism, black bigotry is not nearly as rejected. Jesse Jackson gets to call NYC "hymietown" and gets no real public scorn. Al Sharpton called whites and jews how do business in black neighborhoods "white interlopers and diamond traders", plus he knowingly accused an innocent man of rape, Steve Pagones, and got hit with a massive civil judgement. Louis Farrakhan is a case which should require no specific examples. Yet all these people are respectable enough to get interviewed on Meet The Press, unlike equivalent white bigots like Tom Metzger.
Okay, you're making a much stronger point now. I really appreciate you clarifying. I was thinking I wasn't going to waste any more time with this guy thinking you yourself were a racist and using the black racism as a means to justify yourself, but thankfully that's not the case.
One thing I did when reading your post was look some of the guys up on Wikipedia. The bias you talk about is rampant there. Pull up web pages for David Duke, Tom Metzger, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. Now, despite all the efforts David Duke took to distance himself from white supremacy, wikipedia is buying none of it. They've got so many well-known backwards-ass groups listed in the first paragraph of his article, it's a wonder they don't start cussing afterwards. Now, not that it bothers me that they cover him this way, although encycolpedias should probably try to cover people sympathetically at least initially, but then you look at Jesse Jackson's page. The only thing they have of him blackmailing corporate America is under the Budweiser boycott section. And, where they talk about the allegations of blackmail in that section, the allegations aren't even related to the Budweiser boycott, making it clear the allegations aren't even the point of the section.
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I thought Rudolph was primarily an anti-abortion militant, as did most people. Most of his crimes were against abortion doctors.
Yeah, all the bombings I know about were anti-abortion. Vaguely even remember something about the Olympic bombing was a way to destroy the investment made by the government into the Olympics as payback for them murdering babies. But, Rudolph was a complete throw-back to stereotypical Southern attitudes just after the civil war. Hating blacks, had stockpiles of military grade weapons at his house...
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Unfortunately, the U.S. media views racism as purely unique to white males. When politicians like Charles Barron talk about how they want to "slap white people for their mental health" because it's a "black thing", he gets no political penalty. When Trent Lott said what he did about voting for Strom Thurmond for President, all hell broke loose and he was pressured to step down as Republican majority leader.
You left out Robert Byrd, the South Carolina Democratic senator having to apologize for using the word nigger. I've never looked deep into the Trent Lott story, but at the time, there were other things wrong with him running the Senate. Yeah, his comments about Thurmond were blown way out of proportion, but I remember thinking a lot of Republicans were looking for an excuse to get rid of him anyway. The main evidence I had at the time was that some fundamental bills didn't make it through the Senate despite the Republicans numbers there. I should probably have examples of these bills here, but don't remember. Lott blames the current Senate Republican leader Bill Frist a lot for his ouster and feels like Bush gave him no support when he could have. Unless you think Frist and to a lesser extent Bush are part of this overblowing of Lott's racism, the two stories don't jibe. Lott just wrote a book, "Herding Cats" or something like that. I heard an interview with him on NPR's Fresh Air that is on the web where he was talking about this.
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Are you familiar with Geraldo? He was a militant minority activist/journalist in the seventies. He's a militant liberal now, and a token liberal for Fox. I doubt he'd touch on any issue like that - it goes against his ideology to suggest that Blacks can be anything other than victims, and certainly not predators. NOLA had a crime rate ten times the national average before Katrina and, if the Superdome population is representative of the city, it would be bursting at the seams with criminals.
Geraldo may have indeed been oblivious, but, even if not, he wouldn't be inclined to admit it on camera. Fox would probably just arrange a stronger bodyguard detail and have him hold more Black babies and start weeping.
I think you're exaggerating the point here. I could see "wouldn't be inclined to admit it on camera," but "just arrange a stronger bodyguard detail and have him hold more Black babies," sounds like overstating the case. Most of this bias I see is more subtle than this. Not all of Jesse Jackson's blackmail boycotts have held. Jesse going after a large powerful organization like FOX because they said there were thugs completely raising hell in the convention center, when in fact there were thugs raising hell there. Jesse taking the side of the thugs, that boycott never would have gotten very far past the starting gate. I can't imagine Geraldo wasn't just oblivious. You saw how worked up he was because people couldn't wash their hands after going to the bathroom. If he knew they were being gang-raped and robbed, I can't imagine he wouldn't have said something.
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Some articles have mentioned the criminality and fear, but none of America's domestic media have made observations about the racial violence that consumes the NOLA refugees. This matters strongly, since NOLA refugees are being relocated to cities filled with naive white liberals who have no clue what they could be unleashing upon their communities or even into their own homes. The public needs to be explicitly told that many of these refugees hold militant racial views, are strongly inclined towards violence, and are coming to neighborhoods near them. It's the same logic as that behind Megan's Law: public awareness saves lives and prevents victimization.
Hmmm, I actually missed this the first time I read through it and am realizing the significance now. I hate to have to think of the refugees this way. Usually, even though the bad apples can possibly screw up everything for everybody, the bad apples aren't that high of a percentage of the total number of apples. But, with the crime rate being ten times the national average?
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White racism definitely exists. Black racism definitely exists. However, it is not socially contraversial to denounce white bigotry, but black bigotry is frequently excused or rationalized as the product of "oppression" or "the legacy of slavery" or something equally asinine. Whites don't have such excuses, thankfully. All I ask is that black-on-white crimes get the same response as white-on-black crimes. In the case of NOLA, lives are at stake if people aren't honestly informed of what the government is shipping into their neighborhoods and schools.
Yeah, and what's going on in New Orleans is definitely white-on-black crimes. But it's also poor-on-wealthy crime. It's too bad there aren't a group of sociologists with a death wish. In an experiment, we know how far a noticeably very wealthy white man would have made it through the convention center. He would have had thugs following him from the gates once he entered, and as soon as he entered a dark place, or even just behind a corner. He would have been dead. How far would a noticeably very wealthy black man have made it? I believe he would have made it further. At least, say, three times as far. But, would he go untouched?
But, that's not really the crux of your last point here. It's got to be a hard story to follow since there will be no press conferences, and consider how lazy and usually uninformed people in the media are, they'll never get around to it. But, that would definitely be a story I would follow heavily, if the media were to somehow track how these thugs were fairing in their new cities. Doing stories that tracked this, would draw the attention that you're talking about. But, this is the thing you're talking about. If an American news organization were to track this. The outcry about giving the refugees a bad name would be tremendous.
What's really bad about all this is that blacks in America have no leadership that really have pull with large numbers of American people. Every time I see Al Sharpton on television, I think back to that story where he entered politics with the name Alfred Sharpton. And, it was a musician, James Brown, that had to tell him to stop calling himself Alfred because it made him sound silly. I wonder how much the American media really sticking it to black leaders in America for ridiculous racist comments, how much would that open the door for black leaders in America that we could take seriously? If you're going to banty this point about the web or even in conversation, this is the opening angle I would take. That it's too bad blacks don't have better leadership. I know I personally was waiting for you to start in with racist non-sense in the angle you started with in this thread.
Fuck this post is too long.
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