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#116509 - 08/22/05 06:16 PM AIM Testing
Bambi Offline
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Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 114
Loc: Reno Nevada
AIM should test STD's every week instead of once a month. Many people can catch something with in a month and alot of company's shoot without comdoms. How safe is that??? Can't trust no one. To work in a Nevada Brothel every woman has to be tested once a week for STD's and once a month for HIV.

xoxox Bambi Brown
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#116510 - 08/22/05 07:12 PM Re: AIM Testing
sfmm Offline
Stormy's Lawyer

Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 27
Sorry to be Mr. Gloom and Doom....but condoms are NOT 100% effective. Anyone who buys into that should talk to a few girls that I know that they (condoms) have failed on several "amateur" shoots. So go ahead buy into the myth. Condoms are 100% effective…..right. Testing is also NOT fool proof. It’s called margin of error. Anyone who is a performer should understand there are risks. Just like you could get struck by lightning or hit by a bus. Hell you could even win the LOTTO!!!! I try to have everyone think of porn work in the same context as driving toxic waste or hauling TNT. It’s a “fucking” dangerous occupation. Now if your still looking through those rose colored glasses I have a great investment opportunity for you. It’s called the Brooklyn Bridge.


Edited by sfmm (08/22/05 07:13 PM)

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#116511 - 08/22/05 07:35 PM Re: AIM Testing
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
Testing should be pretty good. You can look up the "sensitivity" of a test (the rate at which it detects the target) and the "specificity" (in effect how good it is at avoiding false positives). As long as the samples are gathered right the tests are probably good.

Note that false positives do happen. Roxanne Hall had a false HIV+ result years ago, and I think Tiana Lynn had a false hep-c result last year. The tests are intended to be overly sensitive; you can always fix a false positive with a re-test, whereas a false negative might be far more serious.

I have found one estimate at the CDC that suggests condoms are 95% successful at protecting against HIV. I haven't looked for equivalent estimates on other STDs.

It would be nice to see AIM testing of other STDs for surveillance if nothing else - is there a widespread problem with various STDs or not?
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#116512 - 08/22/05 07:48 PM Re: AIM Testing
sfmm Offline
Stormy's Lawyer

Registered: 06/18/05
Posts: 27
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I have found one estimate at the CDC that suggests condoms are 95% successful at protecting against HIV. I haven't looked for equivalent estimates on other STDs.




I hate to be a dick here again but if the CDC said Chicken Little was right and “the sky is falling” would you believe them? Remember you can use your own judgment and don’t believe everything that is written. I will say with that condoms would be perfect for a couple in a monogamous relationship for something simple as birth control. But if your doing scenes all over the place (i.e., not the bedroom on the "bed") it’s not conceivable that they will be 100% effective. If anyone (male or female) has apprehensions about catching something (STD’s in general) in the biz they really shouldn’t be in it in the first place.

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#116513 - 08/22/05 09:57 PM Re: AIM Testing
smut fiend Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 04/01/05
Posts: 142
Loc: N. California
I wonder why syphilis and herpes aren't on the AIM list (but I guess herpes is a sure thing).
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#116514 - 08/23/05 01:53 AM Re: AIM Testing
bukkakefan1 Offline
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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 154
I think one thing to remember about AIM testing is that it's not so much intended to prevent infection as it is to prevent the spread of infection. Spread of infection will be prevented only after someone tests positive; i.e. someone (or a few people) have already been victimized. This was of course how the spread of HIV was halted in the industry beyond a few people last year when Darren James tested positive. And so unfortunately I think talent should realize that there's always risk and AIM testing would not eliminate the risk but will only manage it, even if testing were done once a week.

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#116515 - 08/23/05 12:13 PM Re: AIM Testing
Bambi Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 114
Loc: Reno Nevada
Quote:

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I have found one estimate at the CDC that suggests condoms are 95% successful at protecting against HIV. I haven't looked for equivalent estimates on other STDs.






I hate to be a dick here again but if the CDC said Chicken Little was right and “the sky is falling” would you believe them? Remember you can use your own judgment and don’t believe everything that is written. I will say with that condoms would be perfect for a couple in a monogamous relationship for something simple as birth control. But if your doing scenes all over the place (i.e., not the bedroom on the "bed") it’s not conceivable that they will be 100% effective. If anyone (male or female) has apprehensions about catching something (STD’s in general) in the biz they really shouldn’t be in it in the first place.




If the shoe fits then wear it. In my opinion you are a dick. It also seems like you don't care if you have an STD or any remorse if you were to give it to someone else. I'm not blaming anything on AIM and I know comdoms are not 100% safe. But if you test weekly for STD's it would limit the chance of spreading it to someone else. Just because someone choose this profession doesn't mean he or she shouldn't care about health and whether or not if they will regret it later.

xoxox Bambi Brown

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#116516 - 08/23/05 01:17 PM Re: AIM Testing
helpme Offline
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Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
Anybody can go to AIM at any time and be tested for everything that everybody has mentioned here(herpes,Hpv, syphillis,hepatitis,trichomonis,etc,etc,). The only tests that AIM makes "public" are the HIV and gonn.chlamydia.

It is up to the TALENT to decide what tests they want done. AIM does not "enforce" any "rules" regarding testing, that is up to the individual TALENT. The entire AIM program is voluntary. There are no laws regarding testing, unlike the laws in nevada regarding brothel workers.

Should AIM test for more things more often is not the proper question. The proper question is should the TALENT test themselves more often? It is the TALENTS responsibility.

I think one thing the talent should always remember is...not only are you taking a risk, but YOU YOURSELF ARE PUTTING OTHERS AT RISK when you dont use any protection, which in this buissness is most of the time.

I dont know this for fact but I would speculate that there are a number of performers who test more often and for a wider variety of std's than just the minimum "requirement"

AIM does not 'require' talent to test. It is the talent who you're working with that requires that you be tested.

Bambi, you made some good points. And if you are a performer,(I dont know if you are or not) you can go get tested as often as you like. Nothing is stopping you or any other performer from testing as often as you feel comfortable with.



Edited by helpme (08/23/05 01:20 PM)

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#116517 - 08/23/05 01:27 PM Re: AIM Testing
It Was Fun Offline
aka Gen Padova
Porn Jesus

Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 4517
How many more times can you dorks be redundant on this message board?! Luckily I'm not the mod for this thread. SHIiiiiiiiiiiit!

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#116518 - 08/23/05 02:28 PM Re: AIM Testing
JRV Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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I hate to be a dick here again but if the CDC said Chicken Little was right and “the sky is falling” would you believe them?




The entire AIDS/HIV issue is so politicized that there are few if any unbiased sources. The CDC's peer-reviewed scientific papers aren't perfect but probably have less bias than most.

And I don't swallow their 95% estimate uncritically. For example, if condom protection rates are that bad why isn't it showing up in the data at the Nevada brothels? Are they HIV-testing the johns before each session?

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But if your doing scenes all over the place (i.e., not the bedroom on the "bed") it’s not conceivable that they will be 100% effective.



That's why I said 95%, and that's per contact with an HIV+ partner. And that's a 20:1 improvement over whatever the bareback odds were for that particular circus act, which may be a lot better than 1.0.
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#116519 - 08/23/05 02:35 PM Re: AIM Testing
Bambi Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 114
Loc: Reno Nevada
I have been in the porn industry for 6 months now, but a total of 5 years in the adult industry. I've been working at the Kit Kat ranch for almost 4 years and never tested positive for anything.I get tested every week because I care about my health and what happens to my body. It's just a shame that others don't do the same. When I first got into the porn industry I was told that it was mandatory that talent get tested and the only test that they can except is from AIM and it must come back negative in order to work in films. I'm still learning the ins and outs about the porn industry. So if it's not a law to be tested in this profession it needs to be so cruel people that have diseases won't pass it on to others. Sex in general is dangerous no matter if it's a profession or in a relationship. Somedody has to care.

xoxox Bambi Brown

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#116520 - 08/23/05 05:08 PM Re: AIM Testing
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Has anyone read "MIKE SOUTH'S" opinion on Aim??? Very interesting read IMO. Sharon only has a BS. and not a PHD, maybe he just dont like the bitch. Who knows"

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#116521 - 08/23/05 08:21 PM Re: AIM Testing
Mandy Taylor Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
what else does she need hehe. draw blood and piss in a cup. a pheblotimist can do that and its a semester course and some clinicals. What she has works for the purpose needed
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#116522 - 08/24/05 06:00 PM Re: AIM Testing
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
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what else does she need hehe. draw blood and piss in a cup. a pheblotimist can do that and its a semester course and some clinicals. What she has works for the purpose needed


You still need to have a PHD, to claim to be a doctor. She claims she is a doctor. From what you described, a physician's assistant can do all those things.
So basically, she is bullshitting about her MASTERS and PHD.
RIGHT?????? :

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#116523 - 08/24/05 08:02 PM Re: AIM Testing
helpme Offline
Rob Black's Crack Pipe

Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 80
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what else does she need hehe. draw blood and piss in a cup. a pheblotimist can do that and its a semester course and some clinicals. What she has works for the purpose needed


You still need to have a PHD, to claim to be a doctor. She claims she is a doctor. From what you described, a physician's assistant can do all those things.
So basically, she is bullshitting about her MASTERS and PHD.
RIGHT?????? :





Sharon Mitchell has a Masters in Public Health form Pierce College and a PHD in Human Sexuality. And there's more to running a medical facility that sees ove 1000 patients per month than just collecting blood and piss in a cup. SO basically the answer to your question (RIGHT????) is Wrong. Do you really believ that running a medical facility is that easy? AS jimmyd would say N....please!!!!(no need to pritn a racial epitath)
edited by myself to remove the cheap shot I took at Mandy MY apopgies to the board.



Edited by helpme (08/24/05 08:16 PM)

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#116524 - 08/25/05 07:07 AM Re: AIM Testing
Mandy Taylor Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 01/25/05
Posts: 737
Loc: Wisconsin
Im not ripping on sharon. I dont care what she has. All i know is what she has works and thats fine with me. What im tryin to say is... she isnt removing tumors or doing heart surgery so leave her be. Not tryin to say she only collects blood n piss hehe.
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#116525 - 08/26/05 10:13 AM Re: AIM Testing
RENFIELD1 Offline
Gay For Pay

Registered: 07/04/05
Posts: 1006
Loc: The City That Never Sleeps, Tr...
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

what else does she need hehe. draw blood and piss in a cup. a pheblotimist can do that and its a semester course and some clinicals. What she has works for the purpose needed


You still need to have a PHD, to claim to be a doctor. She claims she is a doctor. From what you described, a physician's assistant can do all those things.
So basically, she is bullshitting about her MASTERS and PHD.
RIGHT?????? :





Sharon Mitchell has a Masters in Public Health form Pierce College and a PHD in Human Sexuality. And there's more to running a medical facility that sees ove 1000 patients per month than just collecting blood and piss in a cup. SO basically the answer to your question (RIGHT????) is Wrong. Do you really believ that running a medical facility is that easy? AS jimmyd would say N....please!!!!(no need to pritn a racial epitath)
edited by myself to remove the cheap shot I took at Mandy MY apopgies to the board. I didnt say this MANDY did. I thought it was strange. I know that Sharon Mitchell has credentials, I have seen here in many interviews. Im was just talking about what Jim South said about her being full of shit. Hey I dont know neither one of them so I can not say anything and prove it. I would assume that she would have the proper credentials to open up the type of business that she has.
So dont be a hater, I was just asking a fucking question.





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