Luke, lets set the FACTS straight.
1.)You said "During months like july there are about 100 performers working in the s.f. valley..." I just got off the phone with AIM,(firday 4:50 p.m.) in june they tested roughly 950 performers,and about 450 so far in july.(quite a bit more than 100)

2.)"STudios such as VIVID are condom only and some other talent are condom only" Many many many more performers use no protesction. Vivid uses a very small stable of performers, and many of the male talent they use do not use condoms when working for other companies.

3.)I said its like a huge unprotected sex orgy and you called that nonsense. If you recall the lase hiv outbreak the first generation list was about 12 people and the second about 55. I'll let you do the math and figure out how large the third and fourth generations would have been. and again, many more perrformers are non-condom than condom only.

4.)YOU said "There are weeks where std's are rife and there are weeks where they are not" That is absolutely false. Working with the san diego helath department I have checked the stats with the l.a. county health department sexually transmitted disease unit.(Headed by Dr.Ke.. ., a close personal friend of mine{i will no print his name here but if you do your homework then maybe you will{) The rates of reporting to the l.a. county by AIM is very consistent at about 50 to eighty gonn/chlam, or about 5 to 7% just like I stated. WHERE DO YOU GET THE INFO. ABOUT THE WEEKLY RATES BEING DIFFERENT? This would be a very interesting question for you to answer, or were you just making that up too?

5.)you state "Almost every person in porn has various things they wont do or people they wont do." This may be true but the people they do work with might be doing those things and doing those very people they wont work with.... Mary wont work with john, but john worked with joe... the very next day joe works with mary. Get the picture. Everyone in porn is in effect working with everyone else.

6.) You state, "we've looked for patient zero in hiv outbreaks its not unreasonable to do the same here." Absolutely false... The positive hiv were about 4 out of the entire working pool. Other std's are much more common and are constantly floating from one person to the next. HIV can also be geno typed and pheno typed to help figure out who infected whom. Luke I would also suggest that you actually read an AIM test result. The gonn/chlam tests say right on there that follow-up tests after medications can give "false positives due to the presence of cellular debris" ( I'll leave it up to you to do your homework and figure out what this means. Without understanding this your opinions on this matter are almost useless.) These 'positive' results must also be reported so the acutal number of individual infected is even lower than the 50 to 80 positives reported each month.


Where do you get this idea that in july only 100 perfomers are working? And if this is true then why have 450 tested at AIM this month? Porn companies have access to all of aim results. Why dont you call one of your friends at one of these companies to verify these numbers? Oh wait, then you would have to report the facts, and we all know that gossip and b.s. are alot more fun than facts.

7.) as far as my shoddy thinking, every single thing I have posted is a fact(CAN YOU SAY THE SAME) Actually, several of the things written in your post are outright wrong, as I have pointed out. But of course when gossip and b.s. are arguing with facts then I guess thats as good as you can do.


Edited by helpme (07/16/05 05:33 PM)