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#109654 - 06/29/05 03:15 AM Japanese exploitation of 70-s
kumicho Offline
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Those were (and are) the craziest mainstream films. All that must be in the movie is there : violence, gunplay, swordplay, severed limbs, sleazy sex, naked girls, no PC AT ALL.
Just watch some of Fukasaku fims or anything with Meiko Kaji to see my point. Frankly, if any pornstar would go for Kaji or Junko Fuji image (with gaping anal twist, of course), that would be my heroine. And if any adult filmmaker would try to make porn version of "Yakuza papers" or "lady snowblood" this guy can count on me to be te first to buy it.

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#109655 - 06/29/05 11:07 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Hey dude welcome to the forum. I agree with you on the 70's japanese cinema but then again i am a mark for anything about Japan. In terms of porn I have been asking for more porn with Japanese woman for a long time but it seems that the only way to get it is from the Japanese themselves. Brandon has shown some interest in shooting in Japan I think but to no avail as far as I know.
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#109656 - 06/29/05 04:40 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Japloitation is cool, but I say nay to pixelated pussies.

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#109657 - 06/30/05 04:24 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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New to the board. I was wondering if you guys could give me a few titles to check out? I've seen quite a bit of the "pink films" from the 60s, but never heard of this genre before. Although I am a fan of Kurosawa, Ozu, Oshima, Mizoguchi, as well as Miike (whose films are insane, yet amazing), I'd love to hear of some titles, seriously. Suzuki's films are interesting, but always leave me a little cold. Anyway, spam me with titles. Thanks.
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#109658 - 06/30/05 07:39 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Welcome to the board Sembene
Have you seen my coke bottle? I lost it somewhere over your continent

I have tried Miike's flicks but they make my head hurt and have since given up on them. Personally I prefer the old 70's samurai/sword flicks like the Zatoichi and Hanzo the Razor flicks.( both great- Zatoichi is better made but Hanzo has sex and oddity)
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#109659 - 06/30/05 01:45 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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get the remake of zatoichi and the princess blade(kind of a remake of lady snowblood).zatoichi also comes with a nother takeshi kitano movie called sonantine.its some yakuza shit.i recently got battle royale 1 ans 2(both with takeshi),suicide circle and ricky oh the story of ricky.ive only seen battle royale 1 so far but u should pick up all these other movies even though only ricky is the only kung fu one.
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#109660 - 06/30/05 02:55 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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get the remake of zatoichi and the princess blade(kind of a remake of lady snowblood).zatoichi also comes with a nother takeshi kitano movie called sonantine.its some yakuza shit.i recently got battle royale 1 ans 2(both with takeshi),suicide circle and ricky oh the story of ricky.ive only seen battle royale 1 so far but u should pick up all these other movies even though only ricky is the only kung fu one.






Thanks dude- I have all those flicks. I prefer the original zatoichi series to the new one but the new one is still damn good. BR 1 is quite good but BR 2 sucks ass. Ricky O aka the Story of Ricky is a great over the top flick and you should enjoy that one. You ever want to try some old school kung fu flicks try the 5 deadly venoms or any Chang Cheh flicks you can find.
http://www.kungfucinema.com/people/chang_cheh.htm
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#109661 - 06/30/05 03:18 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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yeah ive been wanting to see those 5 deadly venoms ones.i grew up watching oldschool kung fu movies and still love em.

heres some more resources.i havent ordered from hkflix but ihave ordered from animeniacs.theyre some crazy fucks sending ur shit out 2 hours later on a sunday morning.i also got the whole evangelion series plus bother eva movies for 32,and the whole flcl series for 8 in that order.its bootleg shit but plays just as well as the normal dvds. hkflix.com
animeniacs.com
enjoy
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#109662 - 06/30/05 04:51 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Thanks for the titles gentlemen, I will check them out.

Probably ground already covered, but Audition and Ichi The Killer by Miike are worth a look. I haven't seen any of the zatoichi stuff, but have seen them at the video store. Oh and thanks Frankie for the titles, I haven't seen some good old school kung fu flicks in a long long time. Thanks I'll take a look. Speaking of which are those 36 chambers films put out by Wu Tang (I think) any good? Been tempted to pick them up (I love RZA), but just worried it will be an hour and a half I can't get back.

Cleetus I saw your bottle the other day. People were worshiping it for some reason.
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#109663 - 06/30/05 05:39 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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LOL, Sembene I knew I liked you
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#109664 - 06/30/05 07:07 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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yeah all those wu dvds r the ones they got the quotes from on their cds.pick em all up.also every now and then walmart has a dvd kung fu 4 pack.theres been 2 so far.they got some classics on em like sonny chiba in street fighter and lots of other good shit.havent seen any in a year though.also on digi cable theres a new on demand channel called ripe and they have kung faux.its kung fu movies dubbed with hilarious shit.im watching mini lee right now they took a bruceploitation flick(the movies made after he died with old bruce movies spliced and dubbed) and made it into a homo erotic comedy.
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#109665 - 07/01/05 08:25 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Here are my Japanese faves (all are available from amazon.com; amazon.co.uk and ebay.com).
Kinji Fukasaku (the King) : "Japan organized crime boss", "Sympathy for the underdog", "Street mobster", "Yakuza papers" (all 5 of them), "Graveyard of honor" (not ot be mixed with Miike's boring remake), "Yakuza graveyard", "Shogun's samurai", "New battle without honor and humanity", sure "Battle royale 1"
Meiko Kaji (this lady is something) : "Female convict Scorpion" series (3 parts by Shunya Ito), "Lady Snowblood".
Junko Fuji (cool woman too) : "Lady yakuza 1-3"
Seijun Suzuki : "Tokyo drifter", "Branded to kill"
Norifumi Suzuki : "School of holy beast"

The best (INHO) sites on Japanese cinema
www.10kbullets.com
www.midnighteye.com
www.supertoni.ch
And look at this
http://www.panikhouse.com/movies/sukeban/index.html

Can't wait, seems interesting.

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#109666 - 07/01/05 10:21 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
frankieprnmgcn Offline
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thanks ill check some of those sites soon.
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#109667 - 07/05/05 03:20 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Kick ass post kumicho! I'll check some of these out this week. Sonny Chiba is in Shogun's Samurai! Sweet! Oh and when I mentioned Suzuki (Seijun) leaving me a little cold, Branded to Kill is really good, but Tokyo Drifter was a little too off-beat for me. I'll take another look at it though, maybe I was just having one of those days the first time I watched it. Anyway thanks for the titles gentlemen

One last thing, could you guys recommend any recent Japanese horror flicks? Just asking and didn't want to start a new thread.

Thanks.
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#109668 - 07/05/05 10:06 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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One of my favorite Japanese horror flicks is Evil Dead Trap- it is freaky, scary and gory. It is a little confusing like most in this genre are but it is quite good. Plus it is available on region 1 dvd.
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#109669 - 07/06/05 07:07 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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It is a little confusing




A LITTLE? I still don´t know exactly what the fuck the movie is about! Worse yet: ORGAN. Couldn´t make head or tails about this one.

That´s why I love Godzilla. No jigamajangos: Godzilla appears, stomps Tokyo and/or another monster, goes away, the end.


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#109670 - 07/06/05 08:37 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Yes but Godzilla is not scary, War of the Gargantuas- now that was scary ( especially the green one)
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#109671 - 07/19/05 04:31 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Hate to bump an old post, but much thanks guys on the film recommendations. I found The Yakuza Papers just amazing, yet you really have to watch all five films, which takes a good amount of time, but I'll re-start with the first volume in a few days. Oh, and I seriously couldn't believe Battle Royale. Just a great film. Too bad there were no english subtitles on the second disk So is Battle Royale a send-up of the Survivor television show, or just another Japanese film illustrating the ever increasing generational gap in Japan (something similar to much of Ozu's films, which, I imagine you guys would equate, Ozu's films that is, to watching paint dry). Just some thoughts. I'll definitely check out more from him.

(A small digression, I've never been to Japan, would like to make it out there though as the women are so bloody fine, but I've heard a few things that I wonder if anyone could comment upon. I've heard there is literally vending machines everywhere selling everything from hot and cold dishes to used women's underpaints. Likewise, I've heard that some of the porno they shoot over there makes Max Hardcore look like a Playboy shoot. I'm seriously not trying to be a troll here, hell different strokes for different folks, just not sure if he's pulling my leg or not. Again, not trying to be a troll, but info like this just fascinates me, call me gay or whatever, I'm not trying to put anybody down, just curious that's all. Plus any knowledge that would help me pick up one of those Japanese hotties would be well to remember.)

The only other recommendations I can make, and these films aren't necessarily exploitation flicks, but Swordsmen I & II. In Swordsmen II I recall a horse getting bisected in the first few minutes, really fucking crazy! The only other film I can recommend kind of related to greater Asia is a film called Lies, which focuses on S&M. Honestly, and I know this probably isn't the best forum to talk about this, I think the film is about the dangers of excessive sex or focusing to much on sex. A somewhat interesting film if you have time, but quite a bit different then most of the films talked about in this thread. I guess call it a so-so recommendation. (Jesus, am I writing a blog, I wrap things up)

Feel free to recommend anything else in this thread, I'll keep checking back. Will get to the Zatoichi and Hanzo flicks later this week, alongside Evil Dead Trap.

Anyway, I'll check out some more stuff you guys recommended. Battle Royale though, guys, really, a GREAT film! Just solid and what an inspirational ending (not that that is entirely important). Run. On of the few films I've seen where the credits come up and all I say is Wow!

Sembene

P.S. WTF is going on in the Cage? New to the site, but man, I've gotta admit, some of that is too fucking funny. I'll definitely read and not post in that section.
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#109672 - 07/19/05 07:05 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Greetings, Sembene, great to hear you've enjoyed Kinji Fukasaku's films. I admire his works. Just watched "Under the flag of the rising sun", great anti-war film.
Planning to watch Mochizuki's 'Another lonely hitman", heard a lot about the film. And speaking of most recent Japanese cool movies i put my hands on Suzuki's "Youth of the beast" was fantastic.

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#109673 - 07/19/05 07:14 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
frankieprnmgcn Offline
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Hate to bump an old post, but much thanks guys on the film recommendations. I found The Yakuza Papers just amazing, yet you really have to watch all five films, which takes a good amount of time, but I'll re-start with the first volume in a few days. Oh, and I seriously couldn't believe Battle Royale. Just a great film. Too bad there were no english subtitles on the second disk So is Battle Royale a send-up of the Survivor television show, or just another Japanese film illustrating the ever increasing generational gap in Japan (something similar to much of Ozu's films, which, I imagine you guys would equate, Ozu's films that is, to watching paint dry). Just some thoughts. I'll definitely check out more from him.

(A small digression, I've never been to Japan, would like to make it out there though as the women are so bloody fine, but I've heard a few things that I wonder if anyone could comment upon. I've heard there is literally vending machines everywhere selling everything from hot and cold dishes to used women's underpaints. Likewise, I've heard that some of the porno they shoot over there makes Max Hardcore look like a Playboy shoot. I'm seriously not trying to be a troll here, hell different strokes for different folks, just not sure if he's pulling my leg or not. Again, not trying to be a troll, but info like this just fascinates me, call me gay or whatever, I'm not trying to put anybody down, just curious that's all. Plus any knowledge that would help me pick up one of those Japanese hotties would be well to remember.)

The only other recommendations I can make, and these films aren't necessarily exploitation flicks, but Swordsmen I & II. In Swordsmen II I recall a horse getting bisected in the first few minutes, really fucking crazy! The only other film I can recommend kind of related to greater Asia is a film called Lies, which focuses on S&M. Honestly, and I know this probably isn't the best forum to talk about this, I think the film is about the dangers of excessive sex or focusing to much on sex. A somewhat interesting film if you have time, but quite a bit different then most of the films talked about in this thread. I guess call it a so-so recommendation. (Jesus, am I writing a blog, I wrap things up)

Feel free to recommend anything else in this thread, I'll keep checking back. Will get to the Zatoichi and Hanzo flicks later this week, alongside Evil Dead Trap.

Anyway, I'll check out some more stuff you guys recommended. Battle Royale though, guys, really, a GREAT film! Just solid and what an inspirational ending (not that that is entirely important). Run. On of the few films I've seen where the credits come up and all I say is Wow!

Sembene

P.S. WTF is going on in the Cage? New to the site, but man, I've gotta admit, some of that is too fucking funny. I'll definitely read and not post in that section.




everything you were told about japan is true. they even have bugs in vending machines. that was a pretty big trend for awhile,bug collecting i mean. theres even whole stores called buru sera (bloomers,sailors) that has teenage school girls panties with pics of them. also japanese porn does make american porn look tame but they blur the genitals of the performers ,due to obsceneity laws or someshit. japanese animation gets past this by habing bitches fucked by demons and tentacle dick monsters.

if you liked battle royale go get the sequel. i have it but still havent watched it yet. it picks up where the first left off. the 2 kids that made it start an organization to do away with the battle royale act,so takeshis character(yes hes alive) has a new class sent to kill them. as for the plot of the first i think you were right about the age gap thing. to see something inspired by survivor rent the american movie series 7:the survivors. its about a reality show where they randomly select people to participate in a killing game and anybody is eligible. it opens with the reigning champ( a pregant woman) gunning down another contestant in a convenience store and then buying a snack. the plot thickens when one of the other contestants turns out to be an old love. they also threw a teenage girl into the mix. i think she was one of the first to get killed.

if you get the takeshi kitano zatoichi remake, be sure to get the 2 pack that comes with another kitano flick called sonantine. i dont know if i mentioned this before and i dont want to click back because ive been typing for awhile and need a shower.

shit before i go i want to say watch ghost dog(especially since you like rza cuz he did the score and has a small cameo). i saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago and its really good. its very reminiscent of yakuza movies. hes lives his life by the code of the samurai and does hits for a mobster that shot some guys that jumped him when he was a teen. on his most recent hit he leaves behind a witness who was a mob boss daughter or someshit. i dont remember if this pissed other mobsters off cuz of the girl or if the ghostdogs mob connect had the guy killed without it being sanctioned. either way his master(as ghost calls him) is ordered to give him up. its good and you have the option of watching it free of dialogue so you can take in the score(which was released as the soundtrack in japan and we were give some shitty wu affialates and throwaway wu tang tracks).
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#109674 - 07/19/05 11:17 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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No, stay away from Battle Royale 2 at all costs- I had it too and hadn't watched it and smartt and rob longshot told me it sucked i didn't listen. Then I watched it and they were right- I couldn't even finish it on fast forward. I guess if you hate America there are some subtexts in it you might enjoy but as far as entertainment value goes it is in the shitter.


I like tsui Hark's HK flicks, I like the once upon a time in china series, the swordsman series, the early jackie chan/ sammo hung flicks and almost the entirety of the Shaw Brothers catalog.
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#109675 - 07/20/05 06:00 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Greetings, Sembene, great to hear you've enjoyed Kinji Fukasaku's films. I admire his works. Just watched "Under the flag of the rising sun", great anti-war film.
Planning to watch Mochizuki's 'Another lonely hitman", heard a lot about the film. And speaking of most recent Japanese cool movies i put my hands on Suzuki's "Youth of the beast" was fantastic.




Dude, kick fucking ass! I will make sure to check these titles out over the next week. You guys have some really good taste in films (sorry for my Ozu/Japan digressions, writting in the morning really really gets me going for some reason). And kumicho, I won't lie, I got LOST a few times with the Yakuza Papers (wait who, what, where?), but it's just the build up of the WHOLE series that really got to me. That's why I need to start it (the whole series) all over again. The fold-out map is nice with the DVD, so it helps quite a bit following the action.

Also, Mochizuki, hhmmm, haven't heard his/her name before but I'll surely take a look. "Youth of the beast" is criterion right? If so, it will be picked up eventually! (such a great collection actually) There's also something called Sword of Doom somewhat recently out. Anybody seen this? Man, I tell yea, American action films can't hold a candel to these guys.

Anyway, will check them out. Thanks again kumicho, whereever you are.

S.
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#109676 - 07/20/05 06:08 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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No, stay away from Battle Royale 2 at all costs- I had it too and hadn't watched it and smartt and rob longshot told me it sucked i didn't listen. Then I watched it and they were right- I couldn't even finish it on fast forward. I guess if you hate America there are some subtexts in it you might enjoy but as far as entertainment value goes it is in the shitter.


I like tsui Hark's HK flicks, I like the once upon a time in china series, the swordsman series, the early jackie chan/ sammo hung flicks and almost the entirety of the Shaw Brothers catalog.




Man, it's tough, I feel your predicament. I can see me at the video store over the next couple of weeks just staring at Battle Royal II and thinking why not? But you've given me a few other titles to check out before hand, but still I can see that Battle Royal II DVD just sitting there.

Feel like a newbie talking about Kurosawa and Ozu, but I will check out the films you mentioned Cleetus.

Hope I didn't provoke anything about Japan or Asian culture in my previous post, just interested more then anything else. Thanks guys, the list of DVD "to be rented/watched" continues to grow.



S.
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#109677 - 07/20/05 06:59 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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everything you were told about japan is true. they even have bugs in vending machines. that was a pretty big trend for awhile,bug collecting i mean. theres even whole stores called buru sera (bloomers,sailors) that has teenage school girls panties with pics of them. also japanese porn does make american porn look tame but they blur the genitals of the performers ,due to obsceneity laws or someshit. japanese animation gets past this by habing bitches fucked by demons and tentacle dick monsters.

if you liked battle royale go get the sequel. i have it but still havent watched it yet. it picks up where the first left off. the 2 kids that made it start an organization to do away with the battle royale act,so takeshis character(yes hes alive) has a new class sent to kill them. as for the plot of the first i think you were right about the age gap thing. to see something inspired by survivor rent the american movie series 7:the survivors. its about a reality show where they randomly select people to participate in a killing game and anybody is eligible. it opens with the reigning champ( a pregant woman) gunning down another contestant in a convenience store and then buying a snack. the plot thickens when one of the other contestants turns out to be an old love. they also threw a teenage girl into the mix. i think she was one of the first to get killed.

if you get the takeshi kitano zatoichi remake, be sure to get the 2 pack that comes with another kitano flick called sonantine. i dont know if i mentioned this before and i dont want to click back because ive been typing for awhile and need a shower.

shit before i go i want to say watch ghost dog(especially since you like rza cuz he did the score and has a small cameo). i saw it for the first time a couple weeks ago and its really good. its very reminiscent of yakuza movies. hes lives his life by the code of the samurai and does hits for a mobster that shot some guys that jumped him when he was a teen. on his most recent hit he leaves behind a witness who was a mob boss daughter or someshit. i dont remember if this pissed other mobsters off cuz of the girl or if the ghostdogs mob connect had the guy killed without it being sanctioned. either way his master(as ghost calls him) is ordered to give him up. its good and you have the option of watching it free of dialogue so you can take in the score(which was released as the soundtrack in japan and we were give some shitty wu affialates and throwaway wu tang tracks).




Sorry for a triple post Frankie, I'm on the fence in regard to Battle Royal II, but if Longshot (who?), Smartt, and Cleetus says no, then I'll probably just let it sit there. Thanks for the recommendation of series 7, I'll probably check it out, although it's probably no where near Man Bites Dog. That film is fucking CRAZY! Goggle it or rent it if you can. But I'll still check out Series 7, I think Bravo or someone is doing a contemporary "reality" show similar to this one. How strange art becomes reality becomes art once again.

Oh and don't get me started on sonantine or the other film fireworks. Not as exteme as Battle Royal, but still great none-the-less. I've seen Ghost Dog already, thanks though for the recommendation, so many great moments in that film (I hope others reading this and not posting check it out!!!) I could say it all goes back to Kurosawa's Rashomon, as the girlfriend reads that work in Ghost Dog, but I wont.

Will check out series 7 though, and if anyone hasn't seen it already, Man bites Dog is WORTH checking out. Not a so-so recommendation, but a MUST SEE recommendation.

S.

P.S. Frankie, for what it's worth, you take a lot of shit here on this board. I imagine your in your late teen/ early 20's. (And I don't mean to dis you with any of this as I am in in late 20's) What am I getting at? Well, from my own life (and again I'm not trying to pull some your younger then me "kid" shit, as I always hated hearing that shit when I was young), but just recognize that's a hell of a good age to be. That being said, you take a lot of shit of these boards, yet still get up off the mat. What am I trying to say, well I hope that this same kind of tenacity continues throughout your "regular" life. Again not trying to prevent you from posting on porn bbs or call you out on charges of being of bitch, but you have a drive or a fighting spirit that most people on this board dream of. That being said, choose your battles/wars with great care. Being intelligent is one thing, being tenacious is another (e.g. there are those content with winning the war, yet losing the battle). Keep fighting, but as we all grow older, the more ignorant we become (e.g. as a teenager I thought I knew everything, then as I got older, even though I read GREAT books and saw high-minded films, I got dummer. I don't know if any of this makes sense, just keep the tanacity up whereever you are employeed.

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#109678 - 07/20/05 11:31 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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what the fuck is up with the clan these days? i'm pretty fucking white but i appreciated cuban linkz and liquid swords for what they were, which was some of the better music anyone was putting out for a few years in the mid-late 90's. method man's making deodorant commercials, rza's off in some bobby-digital self-indulgent kick, and they must have more members than the population of rhode island. i'm totally out of the loop, i'm white and hate the tribe and de la soul, i think the last disc i bought was the last MOP one produced by premier or maybe some mc solaar stuff because people rapping in french is somehow amusing to me. fill me in, my street-creds at an alltime low.
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#109679 - 07/20/05 01:02 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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No, stay away from Battle Royale 2 at all costs- I had it too and hadn't watched it and smartt and rob longshot told me it sucked i didn't listen. Then I watched it and they were right- I couldn't even finish it on fast forward. I guess if you hate America there are some subtexts in it you might enjoy but as far as entertainment value goes it is in the shitter.


I like tsui Hark's HK flicks, I like the once upon a time in china series, the swordsman series, the early jackie chan/ sammo hung flicks and almost the entirety of the Shaw Brothers catalog.




Man, it's tough, I feel your predicament. I can see me at the video store over the next couple of weeks just staring at Battle Royal II and thinking why not? But you've given me a few other titles to check out before hand, but still I can see that Battle Royal II DVD just sitting there.

Feel like a newbie talking about Kurosawa and Ozu, but I will check out the films you mentioned Cleetus.

Hope I didn't provoke anything about Japan or Asian culture in my previous post, just interested more then anything else. Thanks guys, the list of DVD "to be rented/watched" continues to grow.



S.




SEMBENE- no problem, I love movies from all over the world, If i know about it I give you my opinion- if you ask. As far as BR 2 goes if you are renting then you may want to try it one night after you watch everything else on the store's shelf- don't let our opinions sway you on it- I just wanted to give you a heads up so that you didn't waste too much buying it. Man bites dog is a great movie- you are right on the money with that one too. Another good flick is Layer Cake- an english crime/con man movie that is soon to be released on region 1 dvd. I loved it.

As far as the board goes SEMBENE you don't have to worry about offending anyone here- I don't even know what you refer to when you said you hope you didn't stir anything up with that post about Japanese culture. So no worries dude. Everyone here is pretty laid back as far as taking offence to stereotypes or ethnic or cultural comments. As far as Frankie taking shit- he seems to be holding his own and for my part I have no problems with him since he has cut back on the shorthand posting style that he used.

I'm glad to have you and frankie and Kum. on the board to talk to about asian and other cinema
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#109680 - 07/20/05 07:45 PM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Registered: 06/15/05
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thanks sembene ive been used to people ganging up on me since i was a kid growing up with my aunts and uncles being in their teens and 20s. if people are saying shit behind my back its whatever but if they say it to my face im on some kung fu master shit. i never look for fights but if someone wants to go one on one ill be more than happy to show them my skills. funny thing is i havnet had to beat the shit out of anyone since 7th grade. my confidence scares people and makes them wonder what the hell im thinking. the summer of senior year of highschool my uncle whos twice my size stepped to me and i showed no sign of fear so he thought i was crazy.

i agree with you cleetus about it being good to have people that are knowledgeable about good movies. jamesn wu tang fell off a long time ago. theres so many damn wu affiliates its a joke. 2 years ago rza and rae had 2 new videos which i only saw in rotation once. even bet doesnt have love for them anymore. that rae single was hot though, had some cute bitch named tiffay v or someshit singning the hook.

if you want to hear some good hiphop indie shit is the way to go for the most part. some people to check out are doom(formerly mf doom), louis logic, majik most, ras kass,cage(the guy eminem stole his style from), j-zone, and little brother . theres some mainstream acts that are holding it down though: diplomats,kanye west, common,talib kweli, and thats all i can think of right now.
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#109681 - 07/21/05 06:19 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
SEMBENE Offline
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Registered: 06/30/05
Posts: 63
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what the fuck is up with the clan these days? i'm pretty fucking white but i appreciated cuban linkz and liquid swords for what they were, which was some of the better music anyone was putting out for a few years in the mid-late 90's. method man's making deodorant commercials, rza's off in some bobby-digital self-indulgent kick, and they must have more members than the population of rhode island. i'm totally out of the loop, i'm white and hate the tribe and de la soul, i think the last disc i bought was the last MOP one produced by premier or maybe some mc solaar stuff because people rapping in french is somehow amusing to me. fill me in, my street-creds at an alltime low.




No shit jamesn, I feel ya on everything you said. I stopped listening to rap about the time Masta P came along, and don't even get me started of Puffy. The old Wu-Tang stuff is just well, "nothing to fuck wit." You know? Some Mos Def stuff is worth checking out IMHO, but it's nothing like hearing that old school stuff for the first time, hopefully you guys know what I'm talking about or had that feeling of "what the fuck is this? Never heard this before. Man, that's awesome," feeling as your head bobs. Keep posting jamesn, you have a WICKED sense of humor, LOL! Seriously, side-splitting stuff most of the time! It's tough, my 2 cents, as we get older we begin to see adolescence as a marketing tool (ala Almost Famous) or maybe these guys just don't have the talent! RZA in his prime, damn, the only one out of Wu I listen to know is Ghostface. It's like, west coast rap is too perfect, too pristine, whereas East Coast rap is messy, yet off the charts. Rhymes over the structure of the beats, it's like the beat can't hold them down or restrict them. I wish I could recommend some of the new stuff, but you know in any business (Porn/Hollywood/etc.) there's so much crap it's hard to weed out the good stuff.

Crap another rant, sorry, I should try / learn to keep things short and sweet. Too much education, it's bad for you. I guess I'll I'm trying to say is stay cool and be safe K.,C.,F., and J. I'll try and keep up with the recommendations.

S.

P.S. jamesn, not trying to put you on the spot or anything, but just curious about some of your favorite films (porn/mainstream/otherwise). Bare in mind, even though I like the 2nd or autueurist cinema of the 60's and 70's, just wondering what suits your fancy, if you will. Bare in mind, as well, I like popcorn flicks (Dodgeball is a lot of fun, and don't get me started on Achorman, harious), and I'm not tyring to turn this into a pissing contest. You seem to be very educated, just wondering what pleases you? You seem to have a great taste in music. With all that has been said, I love "popcorn flicks" as much as the next guy, but always looking for recommendations (honestly, porn included. ).

Anyway, cheers guys, sorry for the bandwith charge Tony, if that even applies

S.
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#109682 - 07/21/05 06:40 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
SEMBENE Offline
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Registered: 06/30/05
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No, stay away from Battle Royale 2 at all costs- I had it too and hadn't watched it and smartt and rob longshot told me it sucked i didn't listen. Then I watched it and they were right- I couldn't even finish it on fast forward. I guess if you hate America there are some subtexts in it you might enjoy but as far as entertainment value goes it is in the shitter.


I like tsui Hark's HK flicks, I like the once upon a time in china series, the swordsman series, the early jackie chan/ sammo hung flicks and almost the entirety of the Shaw Brothers catalog.




Man, it's tough, I feel your predicament. I can see me at the video store over the next couple of weeks just staring at Battle Royal II and thinking why not? But you've given me a few other titles to check out before hand, but still I can see that Battle Royal II DVD just sitting there.

Feel like a newbie talking about Kurosawa and Ozu, but I will check out the films you mentioned Cleetus.

Hope I didn't provoke anything about Japan or Asian culture in my previous post, just interested more then anything else. Thanks guys, the list of DVD "to be rented/watched" continues to grow.



S.




SEMBENE- no problem, I love movies from all over the world, If i know about it I give you my opinion- if you ask. As far as BR 2 goes if you are renting then you may want to try it one night after you watch everything else on the store's shelf- don't let our opinions sway you on it- I just wanted to give you a heads up so that you didn't waste too much buying it. Man bites dog is a great movie- you are right on the money with that one too. Another good flick is Layer Cake- an english crime/con man movie that is soon to be released on region 1 dvd. I loved it.

As far as the board goes SEMBENE you don't have to worry about offending anyone here- I don't even know what you refer to when you said you hope you didn't stir anything up with that post about Japanese culture. So no worries dude. Everyone here is pretty laid back as far as taking offence to stereotypes or ethnic or cultural comments. As far as Frankie taking shit- he seems to be holding his own and for my part I have no problems with him since he has cut back on the shorthand posting style that he used.

I'm glad to have you and frankie and Kum. on the board to talk to about asian and other cinema




Son of a bitch Cleetus, I saw so many previews of Layer Cake, yet didn't go. I should have known to go check that out in the theater as it was produced (I think) by the same guys that did Snatch and Lock, Stock, and 2 smoking barrels. Fuck, it's a must rent now, wish I would have seen it on the big screen. Not to be a bitch, but to much CPU language and spelling and I'm WTF? Fucking generation Y, they do stuff with CPU's that makes my head spin? We should try to keep this thread open though, as I imagine many readers and non-posters will finally see a number of good flicks.

S.

P.S. Africa is not as bad as the monkey makes it seem. In CERTAIN areas we are more 1st world then you'd think. For example, I've never seen a lion in my whole life here. Maybe I'm sheltered. AIDS on the other hand. Well, that's all true.

Edit forgive me for my bad grammar (if any?), English is not my 1st language.


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#109683 - 07/21/05 09:26 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Registered: 04/19/04
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Dude- I am glad for this thread too. THere is another one that started about the time that i joined here last year in this section- where lonshot and smartt and i discuss these flicks too.

One thing you should know about the Cage where monkey resides is that it is mostly fun and games, he wasn't in africa any more than i am the King of siam. We like to fool around a bit in the cage ( read the disclaimer for the cage section).

Where in Africa are you located? I knew a guy from nigeria who was a cool dude.
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#109684 - 07/25/05 06:18 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 24
Concerning Rokuro Mochizuki and his "Another lonely hitman" (1995). hardly a man of 70-s, right, but much influenced by those times. From interviews and articles I got a picture of a guy impossible not to like. Mochizuki got his share of life's blows and has this attitude of a world-weary cynic full of self-irony. Then he comes from porn cinema, has no regrets about it, more, tells he enjoyed filming naked women and sex stuff. And he loves Fukasaku's works.
"Another lonely hitman" is not your fast and furious yakuza movie, more it is a kind of meditation on loneliness of losers in big city. But since the main hero is a gangster there are some well staged and realistic violent scenes. And note some weird humor, especially when yakuza get into quarrel with a porn tape playing as a background, when they stop shouting to make some comments about fucking on the screen.
So, as a good crime drama "Hitman" hits home, I'll surely get Mochizuki's "Onibi" as well, it'll be released tomorrow.
Well, "BR2" is definitely a disappointment, Fukasaku's son, who finished the film doesn't have a third of his dead father's talent. And this aforementioned "Sword of doom" from Kihachi Okamoto is nothing impressive, must add. Several good fights, that's all.

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#109685 - 07/27/05 07:00 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
SEMBENE Offline
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Registered: 06/30/05
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Concerning Rokuro Mochizuki and his "Another lonely hitman" (1995). hardly a man of 70-s, right, but much influenced by those times. From interviews and articles I got a picture of a guy impossible not to like. Mochizuki got his share of life's blows and has this attitude of a world-weary cynic full of self-irony. Then he comes from porn cinema, has no regrets about it, more, tells he enjoyed filming naked women and sex stuff. And he loves Fukasaku's works.
"Another lonely hitman" is not your fast and furious yakuza movie, more it is a kind of meditation on loneliness of losers in big city. But since the main hero is a gangster there are some well staged and realistic violent scenes. And note some weird humor, especially when yakuza get into quarrel with a porn tape playing as a background, when they stop shouting to make some comments about fucking on the screen.
So, as a good crime drama "Hitman" hits home, I'll surely get Mochizuki's "Onibi" as well, it'll be released tomorrow.
Well, "BR2" is definitely a disappointment, Fukasaku's son, who finished the film doesn't have a third of his dead father's talent. And this aforementioned "Sword of doom" from Kihachi Okamoto is nothing impressive, must add. Several good fights, that's all.




Thanks for the update, for those in the L.A. area www.vidiotsvideo.com/ has a great selection, its where I've rented much of the stuff in this thread. K. keep posting, curious about any and all asian cinema.

S.
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#109686 - 08/02/05 07:46 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Registered: 06/28/05
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Two more films I'd recommend.
"Crest of betrayal" (1994) may be not Fukasaku's best movie, but probably the most beautiful to watch. Surreal mix of samurai action and horror, full of dreamlike images and violent swordfights.
"Blind woman's curse" (1970) is a mix of samurai-horror again, but the director here, Teruo Ishii is no Fukasaku, so it is not masterpiece, of course. Still, it has some cool swordplay of its own and (!), it has Meiko Kaji. This lady is great, just for having a chance to watch her I'd recommend this film.
By the way, both titles come from www.ebay.com

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#109687 - 08/02/05 10:03 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Kumicho, where do you live? I wish i lived there because I have no where around me that has any of these flicks and they all look pretty good.
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#109688 - 08/03/05 07:37 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
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Registered: 06/28/05
Posts: 24
Believe it or not, but I am a real Russian and live in Moscow. And the titles I get through different ways mostly from www.amazon.com or www.ebay.com

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#109689 - 08/03/05 10:21 AM Re: Japanese exploitation of 70-s
Cleetus VanDamme Offline
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Cool Kumicho, I just thought you had a good rental place near you because you have seen so many of these flicks. Keep up with the recomendations dude- Even if I can't find them easily, they look great and give me something to search for.
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