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#107044 - 06/15/05 10:07 PM Disney World demands sacrifice
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A day after the death of a 4-year-old boy who passed out while on a ride at Walt Disney World, the ride has been reopened. Daudi Bamuwamye passed out Monday afternoon after riding the Mission: Space attraction at Epcot with his mother and sister. Paramedics tried to revive the youngster after his mother carried him off the ride, but he later died at a hospital." ... "The ride uses a multi-arm centrifuge to simulate a force twice the strength of normal gravity. It has caused previous concerns about its intensity.


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#107045 - 06/16/05 02:07 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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It'll be interesting to see how they get out of this one. It is said that Disney has never lost a law suit brought because of injury. They never settle in court. I don't know if any of this is true.
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#107046 - 06/16/05 03:43 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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It'll be interesting to see how they get out of this one. It is said that Disney has never lost a law suit brought because of injury. They never settle in court. I don't know if any of this is true.




If the family does not want too much money then they will settle. If the family thinks that they are going to get millions then it will go to court.
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#107047 - 06/16/05 04:21 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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no amount of money is gonna make up for what that family is going through

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#107048 - 06/16/05 04:50 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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Has any cause of death been found? A lot of people have been on that ride with no problem - it's not as though there is no history with it.
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#107049 - 06/16/05 05:51 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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It is said that Disney has never lost a law suit




...until now.



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#107050 - 06/16/05 06:26 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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the thing is they have so much money they will find a way that it was the moms fault because she didn't know he had a heart murmur and the ride says no heart murmurs. or she didnt give him lunch, they will turn her into a villian on top of everything.

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#107051 - 06/16/05 08:11 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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It'll be interesting to see how they get out of this one. It is said that Disney has never lost a law suit brought because of injury. They never settle in court. I don't know if any of this is true.




If the family does not want too much money then they will settle. If the family thinks that they are going to get millions then it will go to court.



Maybe you know something I don't, but everything I've heard about Disney is that they have not settled a single case out of court. They want a reputation that they're difficult to fight.
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#107052 - 06/16/05 09:06 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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the thing is they have so much money they will find a way that it was the moms fault because she didn't know he had a heart murmur and the ride says no heart murmurs. or she didnt give him lunch, they will turn her into a villian on top of everything.



A jury would not take kindly to that approach unless the mom really was a witch (example: Michael Jackson case).

More likely Disney would try to say that the kid had a life-threatening medical condition and was going to drop dead somewhere, and it happened to be there instead of the car ride home, or in bed that night, etc. This assumes, of course, that it's true, and that the ride did not contribute...
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#107053 - 06/16/05 09:19 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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I heard a news report that said there was no sign of any trauma. The mother is screwed as far as lawsuits go.

I have children and can only imagine her pain but it would not occur to me to sue Disney for this incident. I am not familiar with this ride but say 20 people go at a time. You stand in line and watch groups of 20 go ahead of you for 30 minutes and see them all come off laughing. You know your son is barely over the height limit for the ride but you agree to try to get him thru because if you don't he is going to whine the rest of the day. You get on with 18 other people and your son dies. You don't die and the 18 other people don't die but you feel guilty because you told your son to stand on tiptoes to make the height limit and now he's dead. I would shoot myself before I'd try to manage my guilt by sueing Disney. The woman should be charged with murder of her son.

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#107054 - 06/16/05 09:36 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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I don't know if ya'll are familiar with the books "Mouse Tales" & "More Mouse Tales" that chronicle the mishaps and injuries that have occurred @ Disneyland.

I have them and actually plan on reading them again...really good books.
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#107055 - 06/16/05 10:02 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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I'll stick by my original comment. Disney will quietly settle this case if the money is right and the family signs a non disclosure agreement.

If not then all hell will be turned loose on this family:
Did you read the fine print on the ticket which releases us of ALL liability? It is a valid contract.
Why did your child die when 500,000 others did not?
Ride was inspected and therefore safe!

A child has no income to speak of so the only damages we are talking about here are:
Medical bills
Burial Bills
Pain and Suffering
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#107056 - 06/16/05 10:09 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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Did you read the fine print on the ticket which releases us of ALL liability?



Disclaimers have legal limits. It won't work if there was a problem with the ride or its design that caused or significantly contributed to this.

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A child has no income to speak of so the only damages



Loss of future income.
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#107057 - 06/16/05 10:33 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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Did you read the fine print on the ticket which releases us of ALL liability?



Disclaimers have legal limits. It won't work if there was a problem with the ride or its design that caused or significantly contributed to this.

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A child has no income to speak of so the only damages



Loss of future income.




Future income doesn't apply here.

I can't believe you fuckers are all about sueing Disney. The woman brought a defective child on the ride, took a chance and lost. Now she feels bad about her actions and will likely let one of the 75 scumbag lawyers who are calling her file a suit.

If the democrats are blocking the current crop of judge appointees it's little wonder I'll never be nominated.

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#107058 - 06/17/05 09:10 AM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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#107059 - 06/17/05 10:04 AM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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I can't believe you fuckers are all about sueing Disney. The woman brought a defective child on the ride, took a chance and lost. Now she feels bad about her actions and will likely let one of the 75 scumbag lawyers who are calling her file a suit.




I think it depends on the autopsy findings. You seem to be assuming that because everyone else walked away fine, that nothing actually went wrong with the ride, the kid just couldn't take the strain. If that does turn out to be the case, I agree that a lawsuit could not be justified. Any healthy human being should be able to withstand a 2G pull. It will probably turn out that the kid had a congenital heart defect or something, that would have been triggered sooner or later by sports or other strenuous activity.

On the other hand, with some sorts of ride there would be the possibilty that he wasn't strapped in correctly and had too much force put on his neck as a consequence.

Edited to add: Just found this. Initial autopsy reports no trauma, so It looks like the kid must have had a medical problem.


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#107060 - 06/17/05 11:28 AM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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Ok let me hit these issues one at a time:

Future income is impossible to determine for a child because there is no past history of income or educational determination of future job. IE were not talking about a med school student.

The Liability release will hold up unless GROSS negligence can be proven.

This part is for you Bornyo:

Now for the Crap about Democrats and suing. EIGHTY PERCENT of all lawsuits are COMPANY's suing other companies and individuals. The fucking problem is not in lawsuits like this. If this woman has a valid claim then she should sue.

If you want to save the system then STOP COMPANY'S FROM SUING EVERYONE THAT GETS IN THERE WAY. I have seen corporations use lawsuits to force product delays in competitors and steal VALID patents and copyrights from individuals that don't have enough cash to wage a five year court fight. Is this Justice? No, it's Republicanism today, back in the 40's we called it Fascism.

Democrats are not responsible for this problem. When Bush gets 98 percent of his nominees approved on a consistent basis, the other party is not really blocking him. Your shitty job performance is more likely the issue.

Last I checked the Democrats weren't running large deficits, waging illegal wars, torturing people or depriving Americans of their civil liberties.

Now stop being a moron and go learn the truth. I'm not a fucking teacher and it's not my job to teach you deductive reasoning or good judgement.


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#107061 - 06/17/05 12:47 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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Future income is impossible to determine for a child because there is no past history of income or educational determination of future job.



Sure you can - that's what statistics are for. Actuarials do this every day. You can't know the exact amount of "future loss" in any one case but you can give the average amount over an large group of equivalent people. Life insurance companies couldn't exist otherwise. Courts do that sort of thing all the time.
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#107062 - 06/17/05 02:41 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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This is for too damned ugly, whose rant is too boring and too ill-advised to quote:

When I want an education from a porn board I'll send you a PM. Read my post again. If I was a judge I'd be throwing out frivolous lawsuits up until the minute I got caught jacking off under my robe during court sessions regardless of who filed them.

Send the rest of your post to Al Franken bud, I didn't say or imply anything to indicate I wanted to read that shit from you.

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#107063 - 06/17/05 03:57 PM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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stop spelling "companies" wrong.

the rest of it - i'm just not up for it now. much of it is nonsense, however well-intentioned.

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#107064 - 06/18/05 03:03 AM Re: Disney World demands sacrifice
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