I have seen them choke a girl out....one of the Nasty Nyphmos series...don't remember the number but Cinnabunz was in it...they choked some Asian girl out...she liked to be choked and then they did it with Cinnabunz....again I don't remember the number....

I remember first I was almost disgusted...then I was thought it was hot...then I wanted to try it...tried it and never have to do it again...